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glassmanipulator
Minmatar
Gladiators of Rage
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2009.12.27 22:23:00 - [331]
 

Originally by: General Windypops
This thread just got even funnier now all the Goonies are charging in to desperately defend the NC.



cool story, bro

Gerald Sphinx
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2009.12.27 22:55:00 - [332]
 

CCP, at least apologize for YOUR mistake, being as you're too coward to even acknowlage us. M.E. and friends in that fight all lost valuable ships in the day of the epic loading fail. we were taking damage even before loading and the least you can do is say you're sorry(after all, we do pay for this game).

Gerald

Buxaroo
Gallente
The Army of The Ori
IMPERIAL LEGI0N
Posted - 2009.12.27 22:56:00 - [333]
 

This thread makes my **** hard.

:whaahhhhhh I lagged out and its a shame our 2-1 odds didn't work for us whaahhhhh:

NC don't understand the tactic of STAYING IN SYSTEM until the job is done. They are too stupid and lame to stick it out cus they want to be in another system to carebear.....why ELSE would they leave a system they know is going to be under attack. Weekend warriors Rolling Eyes You guys haven't changed one bit, just like the first Delve war where you siege a system and JUMP your caps out and then come back 2 days later to see the system is cyno jammed.....pro pvpers Rolling Eyes

General Windypops
Gallente
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
Posted - 2009.12.27 22:59:00 - [334]
 

Originally by: Gerald Sphinx
CCP, at least apologize for YOUR mistake, being as you're too coward to even acknowlage us. M.E. and friends in that fight all lost valuable ships in the day of the epic loading fail. we were taking damage even before loading and the least you can do is say you're sorry(after all, we do pay for this game).

Gerald


Genius, Gerald! Awesome post.

How exactly did CCP force you to decide that the best way to defend your systems were by being in lots of other systems besides that system at the crucial time?



Fat Ducker
Amarr
Lucky Hydra Corp
Posted - 2009.12.27 23:07:00 - [335]
 

Originally by: Gerald Sphinx
(after all, we do pay for this game)

Gerald


Umm, no.

If you read the ToS & EULA, you will find you pay to access CCP's game.

If it's working that day.

You will also note, while reading that CCP does not warrant its fitness for any particular purpose, including (but not limited to) making other people internet spaceships explode.


Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2009.12.28 00:08:00 - [336]
 

Originally by: Gerald Sphinx
CCP, at least apologize for YOUR mistake, being as you're too coward to even acknowlage us. M.E. and friends in that fight all lost valuable ships in the day of the epic loading fail. we were taking damage even before loading and the least you can do is say you're sorry(after all, we do pay for this game).

Gerald


hahaha

this thread just gets better and better Very Happy

DJ Obsidian
Gallente
RONA Legion
RONA Directorate
Posted - 2009.12.28 00:39:00 - [337]
 

Posting in a we got blobbed and couldn't load grid thread.


Hey but honestly if you REALLY want to know how to bypass the grid loading problems.

Have your map opened to the solar system map. This causes only the overview to load but not the grid. So you can still shoot but you just wont be able to watch.

I dont know it works for me when trying to get in and out of jita.


oh and

Eve is dying.

Can I have ur stuff?

MAXSuicide
Caldari
Core Impulse
Posted - 2009.12.28 01:44:00 - [338]
 

Edited by: MAXSuicide on 28/12/2009 01:48:13
Edited by: MAXSuicide on 28/12/2009 01:47:26
Originally by: yarrmarr
Originally by: KillMurderDeath
Edited by: KillMurderDeath on 27/12/2009 18:51:50
Originally by: Blue Kytana
we lost, because the ccp server sucks...

It cant be right, that i pay 15€ p.m. and i get no grid. Eve would like imitate a real world in space, but it dont works. Real world in space means that i can fight, if i want to fight. Therefore i pay 15€ p.m.

Its the same like a car race without gas.

Thanks to ccp... know i have lost fun to play eve... realy good work ccp


you lost because you jumped 700 people through a gate and thought you wouldnt crash the server... how long have you played eve? yes sometimes the lag sucks. but YOU are the ones creating the lag. you can try not failing at pvp and bring realistic numbers. like the game was made for.
instead of blaming ccp you should blame yourselves and your ******ed fc's


In all honesty, can you come up with another solution that doesn't revolve around numbers and being there first? ok, there's a game element in racing to the next system and be the first to load grid but I doubt that is what CCP has in mind (let alone has been promoting/advocating in their commercial outings)


the guy that quoted me said they jumped 400+ more into the system than the enemy even had.......thats pretty substantial if one were to have any knowledge of how the nodes work...

Coming from a man that played in 2004 when 60 man fights were omfgepic...i find all this whining about the lack of support for over a thousand people in a system utterly pathetic.

Originally by: Matata Hakuna
Originally by: Bin Matar
hahahahahahhahahahahah

You actually did it again. And now your moaning about it.


Again.



Ahahahahahahahahah

You actually never did anything significant in EVE. And now you post to laugh at others who did.

Again.

Laughing




quoting a post that is so relevant to the discussion at hand. wait.....its goonswarm - since when has anything posted by someone wearing that tag ever been relevent? Keep ur ****spam to 4chan please.


Kylod
Caldari
Invictus Australis
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2009.12.28 09:58:00 - [339]
 

1. EVE has a mass of subscribers paying monthly for the game.
2. Subscriptions are increasing.
3. Most of these subscribers live in Empire.
4. Empire dwellers don’t have massive 500+ fleet battles.
5. Fleet battles in 0.0 are not frequent.
6. The Hardware required to ensure 500+ fleet battles are playable is expensive at present.
7. CCP Strategic Planners are possibly banking on more new subscribers than disgruntled 0.0 un-subscribers.
8. CCP have released aesthetic improvements in recent patches to attract new subscribers.
9. The latest Patch has great aesthetic improvements at the cost of large scale fleet battles.
10. CCP appears not to care about 0.0 subscribers.
11. This trend will continue until the Hardware required for 500+ fleet battles becomes financially viable.
12. 0.0 dwellers are screwed for now.
13. Keep paying your subscription.
14. My cats breathe smells like cat food.

Myz Toyou
Minmatar
the Organ Grinder and Company
Posted - 2009.12.28 10:08:00 - [340]
 

Originally by: Kylod
14. My cats breathe smells like cat food.



ugh

Freyr Ashen
Caldari
the Organ Grinder and Company
Posted - 2009.12.28 11:26:00 - [341]
 

ffs, i missed all the fun.. :P

nighthawkcm
Minmatar
German Kings
Majesta Empire
Posted - 2009.12.28 15:19:00 - [342]
 

The mayor problem here is, besides the stupid decision our FC's made, that the first in System has a more then serious advantage.
I am not saying it is unfair or anything like that, but when you are able to be first on teh grid, it has been like that in the past, and it will be like that in the future, then you have a davantage, like in any war basically.

Difference nowadays are the numbers of 0.0 Players joining fights. They increase, and thus the amount of clashing pilots increases.
A 300 vs 300 fight is possible if both sides are already in the system, but even 300 via Gate into 300 holding the gate is close to a suicide gank of a freighter in High Sec, you will loose the ships jumping in.

The not properly loading grid has been fought with a lot of tactics, jump in batches, CCP allowed us to turn brackets off etc.

But if my enemy is ina somewhat earlier Timezone, has a holiday or anything that allows him to be there first, then you are left with two choices. Everyone knows these two, jump in and die or give up for the moment and hope to fight another day under better conditions.

Right now this affects 0.0 warfare in a awful manner. It is not about the FC's quality, besides the ones delivering their fleet to be slaughtered, but it is about being there first, which from certain numbers, pretty much guarantees a win.

I seriously do not know how CCP can do something, besides figuring out what the difference between Apocrypha, where it worked much better, and Dominion, where its somewhat borked, is. But untill the 5th of january, it is borked, thus not what CCP sold and advertised in two trailers.

In conclusion, its not ATLAS vs. NC - IT vs. "There are no GOONS" or 0.0 vs. CCP. This being fixed is in the interest of all 0.0 players as it would allow us to have nice big fights with a lot of Alpha Strike and what not again.

This is my 5 cents to the situation where I horribly died in a grid load lagspike or whatever this was.

Aegis Osiris
Gallente
Peanut Factory
Posted - 2009.12.28 15:35:00 - [343]
 

You lot had 700 pilots ready to go.

700.

And you couldn't think of anything better to do with those 700 then charge the mighty blob straight into a meatgrinder in the electronic equivalent of walking upright across a field of Flemish mud circa 1916?

There were other things that 700 could have shot. Many other things. Things that might have ended up giving you a fight on better terms.

If this is the best your FC's could come up with, then fire your FC's. They aren't in your best interests.

Farham
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2009.12.28 15:50:00 - [344]
 



I have a feeling this entire conflict will take a rather dramatic turn once CCP finds and fixes the lag issue.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2009.12.28 16:04:00 - [345]
 

Originally by: Farham


I have a feeling this entire conflict will take a rather dramatic turn once CCP finds and fixes the lag issue.


I agree, but perhaps not in the way that you mean.

On a side note, I'll leave you all with this little pearl:


[15:09:42] Imperian > MH is still alive ?

Finanche
Minmatar
Salus Novus
United Front Alliance
Posted - 2009.12.28 16:08:00 - [346]
 

Lets improve the game shall we...

1. Fix the large fleet lag issue
2. Phase out Jumpfreighters and Jumpbridges (lets go back to old school logistics, game was way better then)
3. Upgrade the mothership as promised!
4. Fix the highsec ganking, remove insurance completely from the game will work
5. Cant we all just get along!!!

Marlona Sky
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.12.28 16:11:00 - [347]
 

And now, an inside gimps into the war room of the NC moments before the decision is made to jump in 700+ into a system with 400.

Finanche
Minmatar
Salus Novus
United Front Alliance
Posted - 2009.12.28 16:15:00 - [348]
 

ROFLMAO....havent seen that one in years..what dumbarses

Dahlia Houghton
Caldari
ReviveX Fleet
White Noise.
Posted - 2009.12.28 16:45:00 - [349]
 

All that has happened before will happen again.

Thorgril
Gallente
Eye of God
Black Star Alliance
Posted - 2009.12.28 16:53:00 - [350]
 

Originally by: Farham


I have a feeling this entire conflict will take a rather dramatic turn once CCP finds and fixes the lag issue.


YES! Here´s the dramatic turn :

Year 2055 , CCP finally fixes the lag problem in the game! Turns out we are all dead or too old to play this wonderful lag-free game.

P.S. - Farham will have 5,362 Skills trained and 30,345,120,334,03 SP... and 800 Pirocon the ubber Dread new generation (Not only ccp can come out with funny names) But can´t remember his name.

Thorgril needs to change his geriatric diapers... oh! That´s now, not in the future Laughing

.

barlochIV
Gallente
Blueprint Haus
Get Off My Lawn
Posted - 2009.12.28 17:55:00 - [351]
 

Originally by: Kylod
1. EVE has a mass of subscribers paying monthly for the game.
2. Subscriptions are increasing.
3. Most of these subscribers live in Empire.
4. Empire dwellers don’t have massive 500+ fleet battles.
5. Fleet battles in 0.0 are not frequent.
6. The Hardware required to ensure 500+ fleet battles are playable is expensive at present.
7. CCP Strategic Planners are possibly banking on more new subscribers than disgruntled 0.0 un-subscribers.
8. CCP have released aesthetic improvements in recent patches to attract new subscribers.
9. The latest Patch has great aesthetic improvements at the cost of large scale fleet battles.
10. CCP appears not to care about 0.0 subscribers.
11. This trend will continue until the Hardware required for 500+ fleet battles becomes financially viable.
12. 0.0 dwellers are screwed for now.
13. Keep paying your subscription.
14. My cats breathe smells like cat food.



Simple answer: ALL of 0.0 REPORT TO JITA FOR DISCO INFERNO LAG-FEST 2010! We can fiddle while Empire burns. CCP might notice then?

PC5
Gallente
Against Polish Authorities
AAA Citizens
Posted - 2009.12.28 18:58:00 - [352]
 

Didint get your zephyrs? Havent you seen new planets?

Remember - you should use target painters! They should let you into system.

Do you guys still belive CCP have intrest in some few % of players in 0.0? They care about other projects (not EVE) or clients (not 0.0 playerbase). Wake up!

Zangert
Gallente
Blueprint Haus
Get Off My Lawn
Posted - 2009.12.28 19:33:00 - [353]
 

Originally by: PC5


Do you guys still belive CCP have intrest in some few % of players in 0.0? They care about other projects (not EVE) or clients (not 0.0 playerbase). Wake up!


Just start having all system battles simulated at planet 4, Jita


Quartex
Gallente
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2009.12.28 19:44:00 - [354]
 

A perfectly working game has never been made and in my experience every time something gets fixed something else gets broken, especially when (in this case) it's due to a significant change in the core nulsec game that Dominion is. CCP will change stuff to make Dominion work, not change Dominion.

So Yup .....there is a need to adapt and use several hundred pilots to distrupt the enemy across their space, using a backbone that can project power un-expectedly using jump drives. In trying to stop this a fixed defensive blob will have to disperse or suffer degradation in its home systems.

CCP don't want Blobs. They have a name for it ..."need for speed". There is thus an inherent driver to create a game where blobs work less well than "not blobs" and so this is the best thing to plan for......however much fun a 700 man fleet might be.

It's usually not the FC's fault but the rest of us baying for blood after a cta and 60 min wait to form a Fleet....."Just get us in the system I want pew pew!"

Meddermon
Caldari
SPORADIC MOVEMENT
Merciless.
Posted - 2009.12.28 23:56:00 - [355]
 

Originally by: Quartex

60 min wait to form a Fleet....."Just get us in the system I want pew pew!"


This.


General Windypops
Gallente
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
Posted - 2009.12.29 00:20:00 - [356]
 

Originally by: Quartex

It's usually not the FC's fault but the rest of us baying for blood after a cta and 60 min wait to form a Fleet....."Just get us in the system I want pew pew!"


I'd almost buy your post if it wasn't for the fact that the NC flooded CAOD with whines that it was totally unfair and demanding reimbursements. If they'd honestly pushed for pew pew at any cost, why the emorage?

Sorry, Quartex, I don't believe you for a second mate.

Perhaps if you wanted to defend the system you should actually have been there, rather than hiding away in neighbouring systems?



Princess Jodi
Gallente
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2009.12.29 03:54:00 - [357]
 

CCP fixed the lag today. Result: 400 Atlas pushed out of system, pos's saved, hostile pos's reinforced. Still much work to do, but today we could fight.

Shiu
Gallente
North Star Networks
The Kadeshi
Posted - 2009.12.29 04:04:00 - [358]
 

Unfortunately Geminate is ****. 1000+ people in system is pretty much the same as 30 if something out of the ordinary happens there. Like 20 bombers using black ops is enough to make the 386 thats running Geminate choke. Horrible place to PVP.

DarkonRhoe
Caldari
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.12.29 04:43:00 - [359]
 

Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: Quartex

It's usually not the FC's fault but the rest of us baying for blood after a cta and 60 min wait to form a Fleet....."Just get us in the system I want pew pew!"


I'd almost buy your post if it wasn't for the fact that the NC flooded CAOD with whines that it was totally unfair and demanding reimbursements. If they'd honestly pushed for pew pew at any cost, why the emorage?

Sorry, Quartex, I don't believe you for a second mate.

Perhaps if you wanted to defend the system you should actually have been there, rather than hiding away in neighbouring systems?






I always see Ushra'Khan talking yet i've never seen these pets fight? is there a reason why atlas pets are posting?

weixing
Amarr
Slippery Penguin
Posted - 2009.12.29 05:25:00 - [360]
 

Edited by: weixing on 29/12/2009 05:25:24
Originally by: Princess Jodi
CCP fixed the lag today. Result: 400 Atlas pushed out of system, pos's saved, hostile pos's reinforced. Still much work to do, but today we could fight.


250 atlas, local 700, 2 of 3 pos's saved, 60 bs lost, hub down


~pushed out~


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