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eLDiabl0
Minmatar
Dark Nebula Gallente Division
Xelas Alliance
Posted - 2004.11.16 23:50:00 - [1]
 

Ok, to start...this will be my last post regarding the PA war Vs BoB. NO WHERE in history..has a army that invaded a land(country) went there and expected a "straight up" fight. This isnt the 1700s with napolean and the British forming up ranks and simple marching towards one another. We live in a day where guerilla tactics..smacktalk..propaganda and espionage are the way of the war. Evol has infiltrated our channels..our corps and our teamspeak...yet dare they ask for a stand up fight? We(the pa) must defend ourselves and our home from these people by any means needed to achieve victory. You came into this war..by dropping victorys on our laps BoB and you fought very well. We dont have the numbers that the CA has or the willingness to dedicate ourselves to fighting you 23/7. This "GAME" is about fun..pure and simple...most people have fun by mining others such as yourselves by PvP. Im really sorry we didnt supply BoB with such pleasure, we were outmanned. Im sorry but noone with less forces can expect to simply stand on a wall and expect to stop a horde of crazed people looking to kill everything you are and stand for. We simply played a version of what the Russians did to the Germans during WWII...burn everything up that could be useful and strike when we had the advantage...not the most "brave" tactic...but very effective. I must say for the most part I respect BoB and what they bring to the table, hell ive died to alot of ya and participated in killin sum of ya. Nonetheless It was fun for the most part..the occasional smacktalk from BOTH sides and the constant flamefest on these very forums take away from the experience and leaves a bitter taste in everyones mouth

Teelmaster
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2004.11.16 23:51:00 - [2]
 

and the point of this post was.......

sutty
Amarr
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2004.11.16 23:57:00 - [3]
 

Firstly - Paragraphs.

Secondly - "any means possible" does that include log off traps and hacking models ?


Your alliance is the joke of eve, you have no pvp skills and there is hardly any of you in 0.0.

We will be back and you will run hide and log off.

DB Preacher
Minmatar
Reikoku
KenZoku
Posted - 2004.11.17 00:01:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: DB Preacher on 17/11/2004 00:03:52
Did we expect you to fight fair?
Not really, fluff and flowers has always been the political corps in venal's way of fighting.

Did we expect you to fight?
Well, hmm, maybe defending your territory might have been a worthwhile goal?

Did we expect you to whine badly when you got thrashed?
yup.

dbp

Lucian Alucard
Caldari
Black Vice Industries
Posted - 2004.11.17 00:05:00 - [5]
 

Ya picked a fight with 3 alliances,then you ****ed off Evol and mOo,you brought CA in on your side and alienated your freedom in CFS space and strained your ties to SA. PA was the great hope for anti-piracy in the North before it decided to let a select few sully its name and stand behind those that did it. Supporting your friends and standing by them is commendable,but when it envokes such a reaction as GNW,you have to step back and question the wisedom of your actions.It took a stance from early on in the war of defending instead of attacking and when the order went out to do so in enemy home systems it was too late, did the PA fleet inflict losses in ungodly proportions,you bet,but instead of fighting for their home they literally were looking to defeat one of the three to find a new one.
This didn't happen. Now they return to Venal to assail and conquer their own home systems and still yet again the fail to do it.

Evol has had from day one the right mentality and the know how to fight you,they live for this and thats why they are winning or have already won. Look at BKG,6nj,H-PA,Ec-p8r, they have more safe spots then i can dream of by both sides,I am surprised both sides haven't run into eachother at a ss on accident yet.

Xaves
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2004.11.17 00:18:00 - [6]
 

I'm scared too... Sad

Koval
Caldari
LOST IDEA
C0VEN
Posted - 2004.11.17 00:37:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Lucian Alucard
Ya picked a fight with 3 alliances

More than 3 alliances threaten us, would you bend over ?. Unfortunatly, without PA in north you will have to bend ..smiling Rolling Eyes

fugazii
Minmatar
TunDraGon
Posted - 2004.11.17 01:14:00 - [8]
 

yes in the start of the war you had numbers against you. once cod and fu left the war and unicor was thrown from thier land leaving only "bob" to fight you, you then had numerical advantage sayin u had a lack there of is a blatent lie. the only reason you guys are around is because right now there is no way to deafeat an alliance, if this war was during shiva your alliance would have joined the likes of the gwp, aa, and cc.

Stoop
Gallente
Generals Of Destruction Syndicate
Terror In The System
Posted - 2004.11.17 01:23:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Lucian Alucard
Ya picked a fight with 3 alliances,then you ****ed off Evol and mOo,you brought CA in on your side and alienated your freedom in CFS space and strained your ties to SA. PA was the great hope for anti-piracy in the North before it decided to let a select few sully its name and stand behind those that did it. Supporting your friends and standing by them is commendable,but when it envokes such a reaction as GNW,you have to step back and question the wisedom of your actions.It took a stance from early on in the war of defending instead of attacking and when the order went out to do so in enemy home systems it was too late, did the PA fleet inflict losses in ungodly proportions,you bet,but instead of fighting for their home they literally were looking to defeat one of the three to find a new one.
This didn't happen. Now they return to Venal to assail and conquer their own home systems and still yet again the fail to do it.

Evol has had from day one the right mentality and the know how to fight you,they live for this and thats why they are winning or have already won. Look at BKG,6nj,H-PA,Ec-p8r, they have more safe spots then i can dream of by both sides,I am surprised both sides haven't run into eachother at a ss on accident yet.


Lucian. You've already stated what you think to be the truth in another thread. You followed it all by saying that its only what you have read in the forums and a face like this Confused. Please stop with the ingorance.

Luc Boye
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2004.11.17 01:32:00 - [10]
 

Who the heck are eldiablo and DC1? They like some corp or something?

Alexandra Belani
Caldari
Moose Wormhole Initiative
Moose Alliance
Posted - 2004.11.17 02:25:00 - [11]
 

Lucian is not a representative of the NSA or his corporation and his views should be taken as personal

The Cursed
Amarr
Generals Of Destruction Syndicate
Posted - 2004.11.17 04:12:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: The Cursed on 17/11/2004 04:16:25
Originally by: sutty
Firstly - Paragraphs.

Secondly - "any means possible" does that include log off traps and hacking models ?


War happens people die. Sutty cries like a little girl. I never onced ***** on this forums about getting ganked by tricks, log ons and other bs that happen in this game and i have died by pretty much by all of them. I've attacked lone bs at stations and watch local rise by two, three or more knowing these pilots were logged off.[Buddy List for all those tards that are gonna say "read the map"]. I 've been npc hunting alone and been caught off gaurd by one frig to only be ganked by 12 people. If you use dirty tactics in time of war [BOB] your enemy will learn to counter your actions[PA]. Any ship loses you take by us that you feel were unfair [Cry for me Please] it's your own fault. Live with it and get used to it.



Luc Boye
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2004.11.17 05:08:00 - [13]
 

Yapp, yapp, all of you. PA uses logon stuff? Let them. It's their choice to sit on TS running alt chars mining veldspar in empire (or whatever) and wait for the gank. Sometimes they will get it, most times they won't.

PA believes that they are winning? Why not. Them living in denial it's not really my problem.

I know what I know, from the rowdy gangs of 30 battleships roaming around ex. Unicor space ****ing people off and acting all rowdy, from the glorious fleets of 150 ships, from the statements like "tick tock", "you will all sit in your safespots", and "bending someone over and spanking their bottoms" to the exodus of their "elite pvp" corps, safespotted chobos they have travelled far.

We left for some fun (and yes it is fun, props) to Curse, they left safespots, taken stations in empty systems renaming them to some "witty" names, and rushed to forums to proclaim how "the end of northern war" has come and so on. I imagine every empire PA carebear is now in BKG mining their zydrine (must have been kinda hard to trade all that veldspar for it), so yes, PA, mine away, build some battleships, plz buy some cool loot and bring it on.

Johnathan Roark
Caldari
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2004.11.17 05:33:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Lucian Alucard
Ya picked a fight with 3 alliances,then you ****ed off Evol and mOo,you brought CA in on your side and alienated your freedom in CFS space and strained your ties to SA. PA was the great hope for anti-piracy in the North before it decided to let a select few sully its name and stand behind those that did it. Supporting your friends and standing by them is commendable,but when it envokes such a reaction as GNW,you have to step back and question the wisedom of your actions.It took a stance from early on in the war of defending instead of attacking and when the order went out to do so in enemy home systems it was too late, did the PA fleet inflict losses in ungodly proportions,you bet,but instead of fighting for their home they literally were looking to defeat one of the three to find a new one.
This didn't happen. Now they return to Venal to assail and conquer their own home systems and still yet again the fail to do it.

Evol has had from day one the right mentality and the know how to fight you,they live for this and thats why they are winning or have already won. Look at BKG,6nj,H-PA,Ec-p8r, they have more safe spots then i can dream of by both sides,I am surprised both sides haven't run into eachother at a ss on accident yet.


I dont see how we picked a fight with 3 alliances? We considered two of the three allainces friends. Evolution was always planning on comimg back after the first war which really never ended, just paused. Looking for a new home, thats never been the case, if we wanted Fade or Delkien we would have taken them long before FU and CoD called them home. As for logging off, ive seen local jump from 15 to 45 in minutes after we engaged. The model hacking was a discussion, as far as im aware, we have never used such a tatic. That thread was just some members brainstorming on how to improve our chances of success. If anyone on is using it on any side, they should be banned now that everyone is aware it is considered an exploit. I dont think it will be a problem when shiva comes though as FPS is improved.

MAXSuicide
Caldari
Core Impulse
Posted - 2004.11.17 07:39:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Koval
Originally by: Lucian Alucard
Ya picked a fight with 3 alliances

More than 3 alliances threaten us, would you bend over ?. Unfortunatly, without PA in north you will have to bend ..smiling Rolling Eyes


now that is true

PA seemed to be the only big power in the north (thi is all relative and comparing to its neighbours)

Dianabolic
Gallente
Reikoku
IT Alliance
Posted - 2004.11.17 08:40:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Alexandra Belani
Lucian is not a representative of the NSA or his corporation and his views should be taken as personal


As you are well aware, Alexandra, [EVOL] (rightly) attribute the views of any member of a corporation and / or alliance as a representative of that corporation and / or alliance, so I'd try and gloss that one over a bit better than just disclaiming it if his views aren't to be taken as representative.

Faramir.
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2004.11.17 08:49:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Koval
Originally by: Lucian Alucard
Ya picked a fight with 3 alliances

More than 3 alliances threaten us, would you bend over ?. Unfortunatly, without PA in north you will have to bend ..smiling Rolling Eyes


I'm sorry... but we did as we pleased in "so called PA space".... Nothing stopping us.. esp. not the PA.
Bend over please

Originally by: MAXSuicide

now that is true

PA seemed to be the only big power in the north (thi is all relative and comparing to its neighbours)


Hehe.....

Raven DeBlade
Caldari
The Leather Knights
Aegis Militia
Posted - 2004.11.17 10:42:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Luc Boye
Yapp, yapp, all of you. PA uses logon stuff? Let them. It's their choice to sit on TS running alt chars mining veldspar in empire (or whatever) and wait for the gank. Sometimes they will get it, most times they won't.

PA believes that they are winning? Why not. Them living in denial it's not really my problem.

I know what I know, from the rowdy gangs of 30 battleships roaming around ex. Unicor space ****ing people off and acting all rowdy, from the glorious fleets of 150 ships, from the statements like "tick tock", "you will all sit in your safespots", and "bending someone over and spanking their bottoms" to the exodus of their "elite pvp" corps, safespotted chobos they have travelled far.

We left for some fun (and yes it is fun, props) to Curse, they left safespots, taken stations in empty systems renaming them to some "witty" names, and rushed to forums to proclaim how "the end of northern war" has come and so on. I imagine every empire PA carebear is now in BKG mining their zydrine (must have been kinda hard to trade all that veldspar for it), so yes, PA, mine away, build some battleships, plz buy some cool loot and bring it on.



Luc Boye DONT even go there... we have a great ammount of IP numbers from Evol( BoB) players INCLUDING YOURS when getting into and using PA Teamspeak.

Secondly dont even bring up the "logon" etc and we ALL know YOU (Evol) invented it, YOU (evol) implemented it, YOU (Evol) refined it AND use it EXTENSIVELY.

Evolution doesnt bring anything good at all to EVE, you are not even close to as good as you believe yourself to be and "drum up" on the boards, becuase the boards IS the only thing you dominate a.t.m. "Cousin BoB" are the sadest most boring bunch ever, atleast FE(Forsaken Empire) fought with some honours and for a cause. Dont continue to say that the "reason" for this war was one Evol was shotdown, you know that isnt true, i know that isnt true.

This thread will be just another flamefestnamecallingyoudidthisididthatwedidnot thread...




DB Preacher
Minmatar
Reikoku
KenZoku
Posted - 2004.11.17 10:44:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Raven DeBlade


Luc Boye DONT even go there... we have a great ammount of IP numbers from Evol( BoB) players INCLUDING YOURS when getting into and using PA Teamspeak.

Secondly dont even bring up the "logon" etc and we ALL know YOU (Evol) invented it, YOU (evol) implemented it, YOU (Evol) refined it AND use it EXTENSIVELY.

Evolution doesnt bring anything good at all to EVE, you are not even close to as good as you believe yourself to be and "drum up" on the boards, becuase the boards IS the only thing you dominate a.t.m. "Cousin BoB" are the sadest most boring bunch ever, atleast FE(Forsaken Empire) fought with some honours and for a cause. Dont continue to say that the "reason" for this war was one Evol was shotdown, you know that isnt true, i know that isnt true.

This thread will be just another flamefestnamecallingyoudidthisididthatwedidnot thread...



What would you know?

You bought the Raven DeBlade account.

From what I can see and through our conversations in local, you are nothing but a n00b.

So don't pretend to be know something about this war.

dbp

Raven DeBlade
Caldari
The Leather Knights
Aegis Militia
Posted - 2004.11.17 10:55:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Raven DeBlade


Luc Boye DONT even go there... we have a great ammount of IP numbers from Evol( BoB) players INCLUDING YOURS when getting into and using PA Teamspeak.

Secondly dont even bring up the "logon" etc and we ALL know YOU (Evol) invented it, YOU (evol) implemented it, YOU (Evol) refined it AND use it EXTENSIVELY.

Evolution doesnt bring anything good at all to EVE, you are not even close to as good as you believe yourself to be and "drum up" on the boards, becuase the boards IS the only thing you dominate a.t.m. "Cousin BoB" are the sadest most boring bunch ever, atleast FE(Forsaken Empire) fought with some honours and for a cause. Dont continue to say that the "reason" for this war was one Evol was shotdown, you know that isnt true, i know that isnt true.

This thread will be just another flamefestnamecallingyoudidthisididthatwedidnot thread...



What would you know?

You bought the Raven DeBlade account.

From what I can see and through our conversations in local, you are nothing but a n00b.

So don't pretend to be know something about this war.

dbp



DBP get a life, im the same as from start, i started this char i played this char and i had a short breka thats it, so PLEASE dont even go there anymore. If you have a "problem" with that contact CCP, im sure they can verify...

Revolution
Amarr
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2004.11.17 10:56:00 - [21]
 

ravenDaBlade, its not our fault guys from your alliance dislike the way you operate so much they give out your teamspeak details like its a c00kie.

Someones still cut cause 5 of there corp members almost got banned cause they made a habit of doing login traps on us before it was "legitimised" (ie people who suck at eve the most need to use it to get ganks).

kthnxbye

drunkenmaster
Gallente
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2004.11.17 11:04:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Raven DeBlade
"Cousin BoB" are the saddest most boring bunch ever



As much as you try to hide your love for us, you just can't. It's understandable, of course. So why waste time with denial?

Raven DeBlade
Caldari
The Leather Knights
Aegis Militia
Posted - 2004.11.17 11:09:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Revolution
ravenDaBlade, its not our fault guys from your alliance dislike the way you operate so much they give out your teamspeak details like its a c00kie.

Someones still cut cause 5 of there corp members almost got banned cause they made a habit of doing login traps on us before it was "legitimised" (ie people who suck at eve the most need to use it to get ganks).

kthnxbye


1. So if somone "gives" you something, that means you have to use it? =)

2. Hmmm well in the early days Evol did this on a daily basis, we in Blades got pretty tired of if it, so we said "hey lets do it to them" and we did... 10-15 minutes after you all were ganked you had filed "petitions" and god knows what else, 1 or 2 days later it was an exploit. Yes we DO have proof of you doing this time and time again before, alongside with your infamous "baiting" tactics. So please stop this childish denial pahse you have, its unbecoming and juvenile, your creditability is actually lower than the former Minister of Information in Iraq.


Raven DeBlade
Caldari
The Leather Knights
Aegis Militia
Posted - 2004.11.17 11:11:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: drunkenmaster
Originally by: Raven DeBlade
"Cousin BoB" are the saddest most boring bunch ever



As much as you try to hide your love for us, you just can't. It's understandable, of course. So why waste time with denial?


DM once i respected you, even liked you. You used to be in a real pirate corp, acting like a real pirate and fighting like a real skilled pirate, sorry to say that feeling is long gone since you jumped onto the cousin bob bandwagon.

Zarks
Caldari
Corente Empire
Posted - 2004.11.17 11:16:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Raven DeBlade


Luc Boye DONT even go there... we have a great ammount of IP numbers from Evol( BoB) players INCLUDING YOURS when getting into and using PA Teamspeak.

Secondly dont even bring up the "logon" etc and we ALL know YOU (Evol) invented it, YOU (evol) implemented it, YOU (Evol) refined it AND use it EXTENSIVELY.

Evolution doesnt bring anything good at all to EVE, you are not even close to as good as you believe yourself to be and "drum up" on the boards, becuase the boards IS the only thing you dominate a.t.m. "Cousin BoB" are the sadest most boring bunch ever, atleast FE(Forsaken Empire) fought with some honours and for a cause. Dont continue to say that the "reason" for this war was one Evol was shotdown, you know that isnt true, i know that isnt true.

This thread will be just another flamefestnamecallingyoudidthisididthatwedidnot thread...



What would you know?

You bought the Raven DeBlade account.

From what I can see and through our conversations in local, you are nothing but a n00b.

So don't pretend to be know something about this war.

dbp


You truly are a sad little person, I feel sorry for you.

Shrike
Amarr
Evolution
The Initiative.
Posted - 2004.11.17 11:22:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Raven DeBlade
2. Hmmm well in the early days Evol did this on a daily basis, we in Blades got pretty tired of if it, so we said "hey lets do it to them" and we did... 10-15 minutes after you all were ganked you had filed "petitions" and god knows what else, 1 or 2 days later it was an exploit. Yes we DO have proof of you doing this time and time again before, alongside with your infamous "baiting" tactics. So please stop this childish denial pahse you have, its unbecoming and juvenile, your creditability is actually lower than the former Minister of Information in Iraq.





FYI. The "incidents" where BLADE reported our Pilots for "logintraps", was investigated by GM's, and our pilots cleared.

FYI2, The "incidents" where BLADE was reported for "logintraps", was investigated by GM's, and YOUR PILOTS WERE WARNED.

I rest my case.

Raven DeBlade
Caldari
The Leather Knights
Aegis Militia
Posted - 2004.11.17 11:30:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Shrike
Originally by: Raven DeBlade
2. Hmmm well in the early days Evol did this on a daily basis, we in Blades got pretty tired of if it, so we said "hey lets do it to them" and we did... 10-15 minutes after you all were ganked you had filed "petitions" and god knows what else, 1 or 2 days later it was an exploit. Yes we DO have proof of you doing this time and time again before, alongside with your infamous "baiting" tactics. So please stop this childish denial pahse you have, its unbecoming and juvenile, your creditability is actually lower than the former Minister of Information in Iraq.





FYI. The "incidents" where BLADE reported our Pilots for "logintraps", was investigated by GM's, and our pilots cleared.

FYI2, The "incidents" where BLADE was reported for "logintraps", was investigated by GM's, and YOUR PILOTS WERE WARNED.

I rest my case.



Your are a TRUE jewel Shrike, yet AGAIN you make it sound totally the other way around =)

As i said, YES we did it and YES you filed petition WHEN WE did it against YOU, after YOU had used it many, many times, and the really "funny" part was that none of our petitons abouit it was even remotely investigated, hmm wonder why?

I rest MY case.

Estios
Minmatar
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
Posted - 2004.11.17 11:35:00 - [28]
 

Shrike just use 'command /kill' on him Laughing


Raven DeBlade
Caldari
The Leather Knights
Aegis Militia
Posted - 2004.11.17 11:36:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Deathwing
Quote:
1. So if somone "gives" you something, that means you have to use it? =)


Yes????

Quote:
As i said, YES we did it and YES you filed petition WHEN WE did it against YOU, after YOU had used it many, many times, and the really "funny" part was that none of our petitons abouit it was even remotely investigated, hmm wonder why?

I rest MY case.



Yes Raven, everyone knows this already. We are all Dev's/GM's/Polaris/Forum Mods and wtf else there is out there that is affiliated with CCP. Molle is TomB and with his mighty Dev powers of spawning ships and equipment and BPO's for us, we have managed to fight never ending wars.

That about sum it up?


Well i highly doubt you are anything remotely as Devs/GMs/Polaris or Forum Mods, if you were maybe you had been able to show some real skills ingame. And for Shrike to be TomB well noo hes not, but i guess Shrike wants to be TomB =)

Deathwing
Amarr
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2004.11.17 11:36:00 - [30]
 

its /heal 0.0 n00b Cool


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