Posted - 2009.12.13 04:21:00 - [62]

 

Originally by: Bagehi

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Stop comparing apples and oranges. The reason Amarr often look so good is because people throw together a mixed fleet and try to have everyone fill the same role. This leads to everyone compromising into the middle ground, where Amarr sit.

The complaint about Gallente ships is less "someone else can pawn me" and more "the other guys in my gang can shoot and kill things before I get in range". This is a real complaint in blob-v-one. However, in a blob-v-blob, the blaster boat should be strong.

As it is, when I call targets, I usually primary Gallente as they almost always glass cannon fit their ships to do silly damage at mid-range. They also (more often than not) have a horrible habit of burning directly at long range fleet or are aligning/motionless waiting for a warp in - making them the best targets in an RR fleet (most likely to die from alpha). In short, their faults are 50% stupid pilots 30% good ship in the wrong fleet and 20% need for slight improvement.

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This isn't comparing apples to oranges. You can't have an idea of relative balance without comparing the performance of ships. I compared the performance of a tier3 turret BS to a tier 3 turret BS. It's hardly stretching the imagination. And I did so specifically to counter a misconception that was brought up about blasters reaching 40km.

You are right about the complaint with Gallente ships. By the time you swing around and burn towards the primary, it's usually all ready dead or close to it. After a few ships, you'll also be capped out from whirling around the field with your MWD churning. This isn't the fault of bad piloting or target calling though. There's nothing you can do when you're out of range of the primary except attempt to close or fire at something else.

Your statement about target calling doesn't really help your argument. You specifically shoot at Gallente ships because you know they usually have to sacrifice tank for DPS and speed and they won't be able to shoot back at normal engagement ranges. I've seen the same thing done regularly as well. Granted if the blaster boats get in range they pose a real threat, but that rarely happens anymore.

Posted - 2009.12.14 15:48:00 - [64]

 

Supporting buff for gallente and/or revision of blasters .

Posted - 2010.01.06 15:58:00 - [66]

 

Supported

Posted - 2010.01.06 21:31:00 - [68]

 

Supported

Posted - 2010.01.06 21:33:00 - [70]

 

Supported

Posted - 2010.01.07 01:31:00 - [72]

 

Supported - Gallente need some loving too

Posted - 2010.01.07 14:23:00 - [74]

 

Originally by: Hemmo Paskiainen

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Edited by: Hemmo Paskiainen on 06/01/2010 15:31:48
serious ccp.....

Gallente primary wepons are drones. Secundary are hybrid guns

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I disagree. Gallante primary weapons are Hybrids with Secondary drones in support. Most gallante ships get bonuses towards hybrids not drones. Some ships do get a primary bonus to drones but the majority use hybrids as the primary

Posted - 2010.01.07 16:47:00 - [76]

 

Maybe,

but if they got drones for frigates, it will be at expense of cargohold capacity, first..

And then if you redraw the missile launchers slot to make them hybrid, gallente will never have to skill missile... but they could'nt use counter missile ...

Well, i dont matter i dont fly gallente... but... you cant have a 20% more damage without a lack elsewere, no?

Posted - 2010.01.07 19:40:00 - [78]

 

Originally by: Ramon Wilco

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... but they could'nt use counter missile ...

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Wait, did you just try to claim defender missiles work?

Posted - 2010.01.08 00:51:00 - [80]

 

Originally by: Billatron

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Gallente are fine... not supported. Its not like you don't see Gallente ships, there is always going to be something at the bottom of the food chain, take your turn.

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We're taking our turn, which means it's about time to start whining so we get buffed in maybe 1 or 2 years.

In case you didn't notice, those on bottom get BUFFED.....which is why we're asking for a BUFF.

You're really smart, you know that?

Posted - 2010.01.08 15:11:00 - [82]

 

pre-Dominion I kept seeing a tonne of Minmatar ships too - where they fine as well? It's a fallacy to assume just because people train and fly a races ships that it must be because they perform fine.

Some people might train a ship because they already have years worth of SP put into that faction, some people may fly a ship for aesthetic concerns, but to claim that "people fly these ships so there must be nothing wrong with them" is nothing short of forum trolling.

Posted - 2010.01.08 16:59:00 - [84]

 

Please.

Posted - 2010.01.08 20:47:00 - [86]

 

oh right - supported...

Posted - 2010.01.10 00:27:00 - [88]

 

Edited by: Laechyd Eldgorn on 10/01/2010 00:28:17
How about also fixing caldari hybrid ships so they could actually use blasters too? Wait what caldari hybrid boats can someone fly them? What about other weapons tracking small targets? Torpedoes anyone? pew pew 10 dps on tech 3 cruiser?

I am just saying while I understand gallente ship pilots are annoyed that their blaster boats aren't so awesome than i.e. equal level drone boat I think just simply boosting gallente blasterboats isn't really right way to do this... Also gallente ships have some advantages compared to amarr etc. Amarr cannot fit so many tackling mods on mid slots to target paint/web..

Tracking modules on mids anyone?

Posted - 2010.02.01 05:41:00 - [90]

 

definately supported