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Thart
U.K.R.A.I.N.E
SOLAR FLEET |
Posted - 2009.12.07 15:43:00 - [ 1]
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What is EVE Mentat trade tool?EVE Mentat is a handy trade tool for EVE Online. This tool helps your to track and manage your orders, wallet and transactions for your characters and corporations. The tool checks whether your orders are on top of the market or were beaten by rivals, helps you to analyze the market and find profitable positions, and gives you instruments to automate gathering of market information from EVE Online. http://www.evementat.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/evementat1.pngPlease visit your user settings to enable images.Will this trade tool be useful for me?The tool is extremely useful for the following EVE Online professions:
- Traders (including trade hub profiteers)
- Manufacturers who prefer to sell their goods themselves
- Agent runners and hunters who want to track the income from killing NPCs
- Corporate logists who want to track the total cost of purchased goods
- People who want to keep and analyze journal and transactions for a long period of time
This tool gives you control over hundreds of orders and thousands of market positions you are interested in. Gathering market information from EVE Online and managing your orders takes minutes instead of hours. How the tool worksEVE Mentat trade tool downloads character and corporation information via EVE Online API or reads it from EVE Online client’s cache. Downloaded order, transaction, journal and market information is stored in the EVE Mentat’s database and used to check your orders against the market. Read full description on the official site... Contact informationOfficial web site ( Download page) Official thread on EVE-RUSocial networks: Twitter | Facebook | Google+Google Group (only for people who want to test pre-releases and participate in concept development) In game channel - EVE MentatFeel free to post your questions, bug reports and feature requests. Note: This program is not a trade bot and doesn't use any technology which violates EVE Online EULA! |
Deamos
Dev Null Development and Holdings
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Posted - 2009.12.07 16:03:00 - [ 2]
Just took a quick look at your program. It seems rather useful! My only recommendation to see would be to incorporate retrieving market info from the Eve Cache. Libevecache is a great for doing so.
Thanks again for the great tool. Keep up the good work. |
Haskell
Gallente |
Posted - 2009.12.07 17:15:00 - [ 3]
It seems that market details don't work for items that contain an ' (apostrophe).
Apart from that, very nice. |
Lord Helghast |
Posted - 2009.12.07 17:51:00 - [ 4]
ya the ' fix, and libevecache would be wicked to integrate, its a very nice looking program also i mean VERY nice its odd to see an eve program that looks so well done |
Thart
U.K.R.A.I.N.E
SOLAR FLEET |
Posted - 2009.12.07 17:53:00 - [ 5]
 Originally by: Deamos
Just took a quick look at your program. It seems rather useful! My only recommendation to see would be to incorporate retrieving market info from the Eve Cache. Libevecache is a great for doing so.
Thanks again for the great tool. Keep up the good work.
Thanks! Yes, I know about Libevecache, and going to use it among with eve-central import. It is just a start of the project. I have a lot of good ideas, and need time to implemet it. You can found a list of planned features here. |
Thart
U.K.R.A.I.N.E
SOLAR FLEET |
Posted - 2009.12.07 17:58:00 - [ 6]
Originally by: Haskell
It seems that market details don't work for items that contain an ' (apostrophe).
Apart from that, very nice.
Thanks for your report, I'll fix it soon. |
Arthur Curtis |
Posted - 2009.12.08 12:05:00 - [ 7]
Thank you for the program, I tried and enjoyed! |
Garonik |
Posted - 2009.12.09 00:12:00 - [ 8]
it also seems that your program doesnt import files which have hyphen (-) in the name of the region. |
Thart
U.K.R.A.I.N.E
SOLAR FLEET |
Posted - 2009.12.09 07:31:00 - [ 9]
Originally by: Garonik
it also seems that your program doesnt import files which have hyphen (-) in the name of the region.
Problem already reported, will be fixed in the next release. |
Exitar Stormscion |
Posted - 2009.12.09 10:24:00 - [ 10]
Quick imports for order markets transactions give error "current security lvl not high enough |
Thart
U.K.R.A.I.N.E
SOLAR FLEET |
Posted - 2009.12.09 10:47:00 - [ 11]
Originally by: Exitar Stormscion
Quick imports for order markets transactions give error "current security lvl not high enough
I don't know real reason for this problem. I had such accident few month ago. Was fixed by the time :( In your case: 1. Check whether you entered valid FULL api key. 2. Check with other software. For instance - EVE Trader. 3. Check your API key at this page. 4. Contact EVE Online support. |
Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium |
Posted - 2009.12.09 16:58:00 - [ 12]
You definately should post an introductionary thread to your tool in the Market Discussion forum.
Check also out the sticky at the top of the MD forum and add your app to the EVElopedia article pointed in there. |
Mr Siman
Spawn More Overlords
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Posted - 2009.12.09 22:11:00 - [ 13]
It looks really nice, but is there any way to have it show corp orders if you put a ceo api key in? |
Thart
U.K.R.A.I.N.E
SOLAR FLEET |
Posted - 2009.12.10 07:37:00 - [ 14]
Edited by: Thart on 10/12/2009 07:38:43 Originally by: Hel O'Ween
You definately should post an introductionary thread to your tool in the Market Discussion forum.
Check also out the sticky at the top of the MD forum and add your app to the EVElopedia article pointed in there.
Yes, you are right. But I have no time now... After a few releases I'll do it. Originally by: Mr Siman
It looks really nice, but is there any way to have it show corp orders if you put a ceo api key in?
Sorry, program haven't such functionality. But this feature already requested and will be implemented soon. |
Rabid cat
Garoun Investment Bank |
Posted - 2009.12.10 21:54:00 - [ 15]
Good job so far! It seems this is still at early stage but its already promising. The user interface actually is usable (many other eve market software fails in this aspect).
Also the planned feature list contains somewhat all features I have dreamed of. I would pay hundreds of billions of isk for this thing (or even hundreds of billions real money if it was allowed)! |
Thart
U.K.R.A.I.N.E
SOLAR FLEET |
Posted - 2009.12.11 07:10:00 - [ 16]
Originally by: Rabid cat
Good job so far! It seems this is still at early stage but its already promising. The user interface actually is usable (many other eve market software fails in this aspect).
Also the planned feature list contains somewhat all features I have dreamed of. I would pay hundreds of billions of isk for this thing (or even hundreds of billions real money if it was allowed)!
Thanks for good words! Functionality and usability - are the basic principles in software for me. So I'm trying to follow them in my work. Of planned functionality... If you wish to speed up specific feature development, please send feature request via email. |
Rabid cat
Garoun Investment Bank |
Posted - 2009.12.11 18:05:00 - [ 17]
Quote:
Thanks for good words!
Functionality and usability - are the basic principles in software for me. So I'm trying to follow them in my work.
Of planned functionality... If you wish to speed up specific feature development, please send feature request via email.
Yup. I don't have any specific feature reqest yet at this time. But what I would really like to see is the graph style tracking of profit per item/item group. Also it would be neat if it didn't only show the average buy/sell price. But also perhaps something like your personal doncian channel and your personal min and max buy/sell prices. It would allow to track price and margin fluctuations. Also is it possible to fetch price history data from cache files? Also there could be some warning indicator that alerts you if some specific order havent sold/bought anything for a while. So it would basically tell you its time to to update your order. Some filter for items that you have been clearly bought for own use, like a new ship? Maybe some alert if someone has crashed the market for specific item if its possible to implement? Yup and its always a good idea to give encouraging words for a developer that has managed to create some good stuffs. It is always possible that if everyone is like 'meh' it would disencourage the dev and he/she would discontinue the project. I hope you will have patience/motivation to keep developing this project! I don't want to blame other developers but with other eve market software usability and functionality don't usually mix. :( Well I think these feature requests were quite specific after all. :u BTW. For some reason the eve mentat stopped working on my computer (xp). I successfully ran it one time but now it won't display the program window anymore. It seems to load fine and it displays the tab in taskbar. Remove/reinstall didn't help. |
Thart
U.K.R.A.I.N.E
SOLAR FLEET |
Posted - 2009.12.11 18:57:00 - [ 18]
Originally by: Rabid cat
Yup. I don't have any specific feature reqest yet at this time. But what I would really like to see is the graph style tracking of profit per item/item group. Also it would be neat if it didn't only show the average buy/sell price. But also perhaps something like your personal doncian channel and your personal min and max buy/sell prices. It would allow to track price and margin fluctuations.
I've planned to implement graphical representation of statistics. Will try to implement features you wish. Originally by: Rabid cat
Also is it possible to fetch price history data from cache files?
This is also planned. Originally by: Rabid cat
Also there could be some warning indicator that alerts you if some specific order havent sold/bought anything for a while. So it would basically tell you its time to to update your order.
What about "trade speed" field for player orders? Originally by: Rabid cat
Some filter for items that you have been clearly bought for own use, like a new ship?
Do you want to ignore some transactions? Such feature already was planned. Originally by: Rabid cat
Maybe some alert if someone has crashed the market for specific item if its possible to implement?
I think planned feature "Dumping detector" will help you. Originally by: Rabid cat
Yup and its always a good idea to give encouraging words for a developer that has managed to create some good stuffs. It is always possible that if everyone is like 'meh' it would disencourage the dev and he/she would discontinue the project. I hope you will have patience/motivation to keep developing this project!
I will try to be patient, and anybody welcome to make "in game motivation" for me ;) Originally by: Rabid cat
BTW. For some reason the eve mentat stopped working on my computer (xp). I successfully ran it one time but now it won't display the program window anymore. It seems to load fine and it displays the tab in taskbar. Remove/reinstall didn't help.
At the first, try to right-click Mentat on the taskbar and use "Restore", "Maximize" or "Move" commands. Play with combinations. Or try to delete EVE Mentat configuration file placed in "EVE Mentat" folder in My Documents. Can tou explain exact steps to reproduce this bug? It would be good help for me. |
Rabid cat
Garoun Investment Bank |
Posted - 2009.12.11 19:25:00 - [ 19]
Right click task bar item and maximize helped. The 'bug' can be reproduced by minimizing the mentat and then rightclick taskbar item and close. Not really a big thing.
ok I'll send you some motivation. :) |
carmo pereira
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.12.11 19:31:00 - [ 20]
i've sent you a email with some corrections.
keep up the good work! |
Thart
U.K.R.A.I.N.E
SOLAR FLEET |
Posted - 2009.12.11 20:48:00 - [ 21]
Edited by: Thart on 11/12/2009 20:49:33 Originally by: Rabid cat
Right click task bar item and maximize helped. The 'bug' can be reproduced by minimizing the mentat and then rightclick taskbar item and close. Not really a big thing.
ok I'll send you some motivation. :)
Good, seems easy to fix. Also thanks for "motivation" ;) Originally by: carmo pereira
i've sent you a email with some corrections.
keep up the good work!
Thanks, i've read your mail and responded. |
Darkreaper Elizabeth
Gallente
Endless Destruction
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Posted - 2009.12.11 21:24:00 - [ 22]
Very nice App. Though one suggestion:
For the Cost price, make it an option to set it as the weighted average of the buy orders for the item instead of just one price? DId not see that unless I am just being stupid :) |
Thart
U.K.R.A.I.N.E
SOLAR FLEET |
Posted - 2009.12.11 21:32:00 - [ 23]
Originally by: Darkreaper Elizabeth
Very nice App. Though one suggestion:
For the Cost price, make it an option to set it as the weighted average of the buy orders for the item instead of just one price? DId not see that unless I am just being stupid :)
Such feature already planned for the future releases. |
Rabid cat
Garoun Investment Bank |
Posted - 2009.12.11 23:01:00 - [ 24]
So how long it will take to get all those features?-) |
Thart
U.K.R.A.I.N.E
SOLAR FLEET |
Posted - 2009.12.12 10:36:00 - [ 25]
Originally by: Rabid cat
So how long it will take to get all those features?-)
All the features will take really much time. I will edit planned features list today, and will write priorities here. Then anybody can write me a mail with request to boost priority for a feature(s). |
Mashaw
Caldari
Ibura Innovations |
Posted - 2009.12.13 09:26:00 - [ 26]
Looks like a fantastic application, I am however having some issues.
-EDIT-
API is buggered again with no notification, hopefully thats the issue. Thanks developer. |
Valator Uel
Caldari
Mercenaries of Andosia
Northern Coalition. |
Posted - 2009.12.13 19:00:00 - [ 27]
Very nice tool!
Just one thing I can't get to work: the Orders. I get the error (via API): "Object reference not set to an instance of an object".
An import/export feature using information from excell would be nice (with the same data as the API), as I would love to be able to enter my previous transactions that are not kept by the api anymore. |
Thart
U.K.R.A.I.N.E
SOLAR FLEET |
Posted - 2009.12.13 19:27:00 - [ 28]
Originally by: Valator Uel
Very nice tool!
Just one thing I can't get to work: the Orders. I get the error (via API): "Object reference not set to an instance of an object".
An import/export feature using information from excell would be nice (with the same data as the API), as I would love to be able to enter my previous transactions that are not kept by the api anymore.
Sometimes this error happens for some orders but I've not caught a bug, because cannot reproduce it :( Please send me your orders exported via file. I'll examine it for buggy item types or locations. Of export\import: I've already planned such features. |
Valator Uel
Caldari
Mercenaries of Andosia
Northern Coalition. |
Posted - 2009.12.13 21:20:00 - [ 29]
email sent.
Just btw, the orders works if I import via file. It bugs when I do it via API. |
Rabid cat
Garoun Investment Bank |
Posted - 2009.12.13 21:25:00 - [ 30]
I would like to see this implemented first:
Some kind of portfolio page that contains the items you usually trade:
It should display your 5d/10d/15/etc min/max and average buy/sell price for each item or item category.
It should be possible to sort items by category/system.
It should display how many of each item have you sold
and profit margin and profit amount and turnovers and all that stuff.
It should alert you if you don't currently have any buy orders for some of you favourite items.
Also it should display some how long ago you sold/got something from each order.
I think that with these features mentat would be already much better than any currently available trading tool.
Also these features shouldnt require implementing any graph engines or evecentral or cache data fetching.
After that I would like to see some price(cycling) tracking features that shows the the price graphs and it would be neat if you could overlay for example dodixie and villore prices for civilian gatling gun for example.
And also market crashing alert!
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