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Patri Andari
Caldari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
Posted - 2009.12.05 22:45:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Patri Andari on 06/12/2009 11:33:29
I have noticed, on rare occasion, that some older players have been in (or still are in) NPC corporations other than the default corporations you get dumped into when you drop a player corp. Was this once a possibility based on standings? Is it still possible?

Why do I ask? Because I also noticed that those corps do not have the 11% tax. That's right. There are players in NPC corps that have no tax, like Ishukone for example. CCP only applied the tax to the default NPC corporations. I really think that CCP should close the loophole if fairness is an issue. Raise taxes on all NPC corps so that those oddballs do not get a free ride.

Being a hater is kinda fun. Cool



Nika Dekaia
Posted - 2009.12.05 22:54:00 - [2]
 

If older players didn't ever join a player corp, they will still be in the starter NPC corp after years. Some my have dropped out of a player corp into their respective bloodline NPC corp.

If some players should not get taxed (how do you know, btw?), it clearly is a bug. Go file a bugreport. Anyone in an NPC corp should be taxed by the new 11% NPC corp tax.

Nicholas Barker
Deez Nuts.
Posted - 2009.12.05 23:04:00 - [3]
 

I got dropped into deep core mining, ****ing mining corp ffs.

Which ones do you get dropped into now? The normal starter corps?

Nika Dekaia
Posted - 2009.12.05 23:43:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Nicholas Barker
I got dropped into deep core mining, ****ing mining corp ffs.

Which ones do you get dropped into now? The normal starter corps?
You start in your eve live in a starter corp. You may leave that starter corp for a player corp. When leaving a player corp you will be dropped into a NPC corp determined by your bloodline / school. You will not be able to ever join your starter corp again. You will allways jump between bloodline/school corp and player corps.

Patri Andari
Caldari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
Posted - 2009.12.06 00:25:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Patri Andari on 06/12/2009 00:26:12
Originally by: Nicholas Barker
I got dropped into deep core mining, ****ing mining corp ffs.

Which ones do you get dropped into now? The normal starter corps?


Excuse me while I re-direct this topic. Based on your race and bloodline, all players in Eve have a default corporation they are dropped into. Example: Achura-Perkone, Deteis- Deep Core Mining, Civire-Caldari Provisions etc., etc.

Each blood line gets a default "dumping" corp. in each race. All those "dumping" corps, as well as the starter schools, now have 11% tax.

However, some people are in NPC corps other than "dumping" corps. Those corps do not have any tax at all.

Example: Character Hido. Member of Ishukone since 2004. Tax rate? 0.0 He is just one of the skaters I have noticed.

Fair? You decide. I think that if CCP is going to put a tax on NPC corps it should do so for all NPC corps and not allow this grandfathering.



Nika Dekaia
Posted - 2009.12.06 00:30:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Patri Andari
Excuse me while I re-direct this topic. Based on your race and bloodline, all players in Eve have a default corporation they are dropped into. Example: Achura-Perkone, Deteis- Deep Core Mining, Civire-Caldari Provisions etc., etc.

Each blood line gets a default "dumping" corp. in each race. All those "dumping" corps, as well as the starter schools, now have 11% tax.

However, some people are in NPC corps other than "dumping" corps. Those corps do not have any tax at all.

Example: Character Hido. Member of Ishukone since 2004. Tax rate? 0.0 He is just one of the skaters I have noticed.

Fair? You decide. I think that if CCP is going to put a tax on NPC corps it should do so for all NPC corps and not allow this grandfathering.
That clearly should be dealt with. Starter corp or not, tax should apply. Would make people actually stay in the starter corp, which is the opposite why the tax was introduced in the first place. Maybe a bug?

Patri Andari
Caldari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
Posted - 2009.12.06 00:37:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Nika Dekaia
Originally by: Patri Andari
Excuse me while I re-direct this topic. Based on your race and bloodline, all players in Eve have a default corporation they are dropped into. Example: Achura-Perkone, Deteis- Deep Core Mining, Civire-Caldari Provisions etc., etc.

Each blood line gets a default "dumping" corp. in each race. All those "dumping" corps, as well as the starter schools, now have 11% tax.

However, some people are in NPC corps other than "dumping" corps. Those corps do not have any tax at all.

Example: Character Hido. Member of Ishukone since 2004. Tax rate? 0.0 He is just one of the skaters I have noticed.

Fair? You decide. I think that if CCP is going to put a tax on NPC corps it should do so for all NPC corps and not allow this grandfathering.
That clearly should be dealt with. Starter corp or not, tax should apply. Would make people actually stay in the starter corp, which is the opposite why the tax was introduced in the first place. Maybe a bug?


I am hoping it is an oversight. (one of many for CCP) Regardless, it smacks of favoritism.



Kumq uat
Posted - 2009.12.06 03:37:00 - [8]
 

I would say it smacks more of oversight than favoritism

Sciencegeek deathdealer
Posted - 2009.12.06 04:16:00 - [9]
 

If someone is that loyal to eve, and has played that long. I think they deserve it. there is a very small number of them. Although if you prefer we could just reset eve so that the older players dont have more sp. That way ccp isnt showing favoritism to older players.

Bish Ounen
Gallente
Best Path Inc.
Cult of War
Posted - 2009.12.06 04:19:00 - [10]
 

My Alt isn't in her starter corp anymore, she joined Egonics for the agent advantage. She's still getting nailed with the 11% tax.

Also, as far as I'm aware you can join any NPC corp you like, as long as you don't have negative standings with them. Although starter corps may be an exception, I don't know.


Nika Dekaia
Posted - 2009.12.06 08:43:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Bish Ounen
Also, as far as I'm aware you can join any NPC corp you like, as long as you don't have negative standings with them. Although starter corps may be an exception, I don't know.
BS. You can not choose which NPC corp you join. Not your starter corp, not the fallback corp. It's determined by race/bloodline/school.

El Covah
LOCKDOWN.
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2009.12.06 10:36:00 - [12]
 

Back in the old days (2005 or so) you where able to apply to and join an NPC Corp when you had enough standings with them. I think Tank CEO joined a pirate faction corp (Guristas afaik) once.

Patri Andari
Caldari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
Posted - 2009.12.06 11:32:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Sciencegeek deathdealer
If someone is that loyal to eve, and has played that long. I think they deserve it. there is a very small number of them. Although if you prefer we could just reset eve so that the older players dont have more sp. That way ccp isnt showing favoritism to older players.


Of course loyalty is important. In fact, why not throw in some free T2 BPOs and faction ships for loyal friends of CCP who have been around a while...Oh, wait..




RaTTuS
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2009.12.06 11:37:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: El Covah
Back in the old days (2005 or so) you where able to apply to and join an NPC Corp when you had enough standings with them. I think Tank CEO joined a pirate faction corp (Guristas afaik) once.

NAFAIK

Nikla Uthaan
Posted - 2009.12.06 11:41:00 - [15]
 

I think they'd be pilots involved in the old events,, uh,, what was that program called again,, I forget. But basically players would be thrown into NPC corps to represent "intelligent" agents of that corp for storyline purposes.

Was kinda surprised when I saw someone blue to me and they were part of Caldari Navy,,,

Venkul Mul
Gallente
Posted - 2009.12.06 12:02:00 - [16]
 

So they are characters used in the old events and that can't be used in a normal "fashion"?

Essentially they exist in the database but can't be used in game unless CCP organized some new event.



Joe
Umbra Legion
Shadow Empire.
Posted - 2009.12.06 12:31:00 - [17]
 

yah theres a few of us that were in NPC corps for a while, I was in CONCORD for alittle bit.

It sucked tho, I had to buy my own uniform Confused


Myyona
Minmatar
Ataraxia Pharmacies
Posted - 2009.12.06 13:04:00 - [18]
 

I was in Thukker Mix for a longer period of time, it was pretty much as being in a solo corp. Except, a solo corp had better benefits and less restrictions so I ended up moving on.

And heck, now my solo corp isn't even solo anymore.ugh

DigitalCommunist
November Corporation
Posted - 2009.12.06 13:19:00 - [19]
 

I had a char in Sarum Family for a while, basically any corp that had you at +2.0 would let you join. This is pretty much an oversight on CCP's part and should be fixed. Chances of it getting fixed however..

fuze
Gallente
Quam Singulari
Posted - 2009.12.06 14:19:00 - [20]
 

Unleashing paranoia on this would give them too much credit.
The majority of these stupid mistakes are oversight anyways.
Eve is really big ya know?

Gun Gal
Posted - 2009.12.06 14:47:00 - [21]
 

How lame you are, OP.
How pityful, maybe for jusst one sec, imagin that there are events, and other things that go on in the universe instead of everything revolving around you.

Hido was most likely used by CCP in some form in the past 6 years of existance.

Patri Andari
Caldari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
Posted - 2009.12.06 16:54:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Gun Gal
How lame you are, OP.


Pretty lame. AND YOU?
Originally by: Gun Gal
How pityful, maybe for jusst one sec, imagin that there are events, and other things that go on in the universe instead of everything revolving around you.


Are you an ex of mine? I swear you sound just like Dana or Cindy or that skank I banged at Ihop.

Originally by: Gun Gal
Hido was most likely used by CCP in some form in the past 6 years of existance.


He is an alt that logs in almost daily.


Oh and, U Mad?



Grarr Wrexx
Posted - 2009.12.06 17:41:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Gun Gal
How lame you are, OP.
How pityful, maybe for jusst one sec, imagin that there are events, and other things that go on in the universe instead of everything revolving around you.

Hido was most likely used by CCP in some form in the past 6 years of existance.


You sound almost as self-centered and bitter as that ***** that ruined her boyfriend's xbox.

Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari
Sane Industries Inc.
Posted - 2009.12.06 18:29:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Grarr Wrexx
You sound almost as self-centered and bitter as that ***** that ruined her boyfriend's xbox.

That's... You know there are some thing you just don't say, even on the internets.


 

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