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reaction image
Posted - 2009.12.01 22:23:00 - [1]
 

With the new arty alpha boost how long do you think it will take before the major trade hub undocks are full with them?

i just did a little EFT warrioring and you can get a whooping 10k alpha

Eisonar
Posted - 2009.12.01 22:35:00 - [2]
 

Won't concord kill you?

Tau Dades
Caldari
Even End of the Universe
Posted - 2009.12.01 22:38:00 - [3]
 

confirming: Concord has NEVER killed anyone for ganking in Jita

Eisonar
Posted - 2009.12.01 22:53:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Tau Dades
confirming: Concord has NEVER killed anyone for ganking in Jita


Ok, just checking.

Sumach Merge
Posted - 2009.12.01 23:10:00 - [5]
 

Did Concord died?

Drakan290
Posted - 2009.12.01 23:11:00 - [6]
 

Who would use a Tempest when a Maelstrom has 8 guns?

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2009.12.01 23:19:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Drakan290
Who would use a Tempest when a Maelstrom has 8 guns?


Play him out keyboard cat...

Roastedpot
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2009.12.02 05:47:00 - [8]
 

i bet beppothegreat will be there!.. still

(btw, he gets really emo if you kill him before he can kill his target)

Jared D'Uroth
Minmatar
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.12.02 07:58:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: Drakan290
Who would use a Tempest when a Maelstrom has 8 guns?


Play him out keyboard cat...

Arrunca
Minmatar
Tjenob Inc
Posted - 2009.12.02 08:11:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Drakan290
Who would use a Tempest when a Maelstrom has 8 guns?


I would with minmatar battleship L5 as the 25% damage bonus would cancel out the extra damage from 2 more guns... And tempest would be a smaller loss isk wise.

Mordred McKenna
Amarr
F-A-T-E
Posted - 2009.12.02 08:13:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Arrunca
Originally by: Drakan290
Who would use a Tempest when a Maelstrom has 8 guns?


I would with minmatar battleship L5 as the 25% damage bonus would cancel out the extra damage from 2 more guns... And tempest would be a smaller loss isk wise.

So, what you're telling me is that ONLY battleship pilots with Matari BS 5 will be able to make use of the Tempest, otherwise the Maelstrom does more DPS/Alpha?

Scam Watcher
Posted - 2009.12.02 08:55:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Arrunca
And tempest would be a smaller loss isk wise.


right because when you have a chance of making some serious bank, the marginal isk loss on a BS hull makes a difference, right?

Sir Carnage
Posted - 2009.12.02 09:02:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Minmatar citizen4561451
Originally by: Arrunca
And tempest would be a smaller loss isk wise.


right because when you have a chance of making some serious bank, the marginal isk loss on a BS hull makes a difference, right?


The extra dps and the isk difference do make a difference. Why pay for more turrets and a L3 BS when it's not just unnecessary, but takes longer to get the job done? How fast you accomplish your goal matters, too.

PostmasterGeneral
Minmatar
yo i'm posting
Posted - 2009.12.02 09:10:00 - [14]
 

all tempests go to heaven

Jonny 101
Posted - 2009.12.02 10:09:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: reaction image
With the new arty alpha boost how long do you think it will take before the major trade hub undocks are full with them?

i just did a little EFT warrioring and you can get a whooping 10k alpha


Your numbers are way off, its possible to get 15k alpha using a machariel or maelstrom, havent checked a tempest yet.

Doktor Feeelgoood
Posted - 2009.12.02 10:54:00 - [16]
 

sigh. Guess it's time to train minnie after all.. Sad

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2009.12.02 11:03:00 - [17]
 

My main just finished Amarr Battleship V.

millesoli
Posted - 2009.12.02 11:04:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: millesoli on 02/12/2009 11:04:55
Originally by: Jonny 101
Originally by: reaction image
With the new arty alpha boost how long do you think it will take before the major trade hub undocks are full with them?

i just did a little EFT warrioring and you can get a whooping 10k alpha


Your numbers are way off, its possible to get 15k alpha using a machariel or maelstrom, havent checked a tempest yet.


the tempest is more cost effective, it only has 6 turrets but it gets a damage bonus rather than a ROF bonus. the mael might as well have unbonused guns. the ROF bonus is useless really because your going to want to alpha the target. ROF doesnt matter then its somewhere around 30 s . if yo plan it right you can alpha ships with concord sitting right next to them because its only the first shot that counts, you get slightly less DPS witht the tempest, but much better alpha

also, use hail if tracking isnt an issue. or domination(better alpha than RF)

Simon Mickey
Posted - 2009.12.02 11:05:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Roastedpot
i bet beppothegreat will be there!.. still

(btw, he gets really emo if you kill him before he can kill his target)

lololololololol

I fondly remember ransoming his drones <3

Sumach Merge
Posted - 2009.12.02 11:32:00 - [20]
 

ITT: People fail at maths.
Maelstrom does more turret alpha than the Tempest despite not having a damage bonus
8x1 = 8 effective turrets.
6x1.25 = 7.5 effective turrets.

Although I guess you get two unbonused siege launchers on the Tempest, if thats what you meant.

Canaga
Posted - 2009.12.02 11:49:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Mordred McKenna
Originally by: Arrunca
Originally by: Drakan290
Who would use a Tempest when a Maelstrom has 8 guns?


I would with minmatar battleship L5 as the 25% damage bonus would cancel out the extra damage from 2 more guns... And tempest would be a smaller loss isk wise.

So, what you're telling me is that ONLY battleship pilots with Matari BS 5 will be able to make use of the Tempest, otherwise the Maelstrom does more DPS/Alpha?


Yes

Arrunca
Minmatar
Tjenob Inc
Posted - 2009.12.02 11:52:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Sumach Merge
ITT: People fail at maths.
Maelstrom does more turret alpha than the Tempest despite not having a damage bonus
8x1 = 8 effective turrets.
6x1.25 = 7.5 effective turrets.

Although I guess you get two unbonused siege launchers on the Tempest, if thats what you meant.


Yeah, but I would assume people would have already guessed you can use the last 2 slots for other fun stuff.

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2009.12.02 11:52:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Canaga
Originally by: Mordred McKenna
Originally by: Arrunca
Originally by: Drakan290
Who would use a Tempest when a Maelstrom has 8 guns?


I would with minmatar battleship L5 as the 25% damage bonus would cancel out the extra damage from 2 more guns... And tempest would be a smaller loss isk wise.

So, what you're telling me is that ONLY battleship pilots with Matari BS 5 will be able to make use of the Tempest, otherwise the Maelstrom does more DPS/Alpha?


Yes


Because of course people that can't pilot a Tempest with Matari BS V can obviously use a Maelstrom with Lev 5 stats.

TimMc
Brutal Deliverance
Gypsy Band
Posted - 2009.12.02 11:56:00 - [24]
 

Fist off, concord will pop you. And what could you pop? A t1 industrial?


Second, Jita 4-4 is instaundock to the moon (or planet, cannot remember).

Sumach Merge
Posted - 2009.12.02 12:03:00 - [25]
 

plenty of ******s that dont use the instaundock tbh. plenty of ******s using untanked t1 industrial/blockade runners with hundreds of mil in cargo too.

Gibbo3771
Posted - 2009.12.02 20:05:00 - [26]
 

carebears undocking in deadspace/officer fit tengu's

2-3 Tempest, sorted

Waukesha
Amarr
Invictus Australis
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2009.12.03 00:53:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Sumach Merge
ITT: People fail at maths.
Maelstrom does more turret alpha than the Tempest despite not having a damage bonus
8x1 = 8 effective turrets.
6x1.25 = 7.5 effective turrets.

Although I guess you get two unbonused siege launchers on the Tempest, if thats what you meant.



Some gankers want to keep the cost right down, some are willing to pay a bit more to ensure the job is done, or on harder jobs.

You sir fail at economics and maths, pls go back to mining




Malande
Amarr
Galactic Express
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2009.12.03 02:19:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Gibbo3771
carebears undocking in deadspace/officer fit tengu's

2-3 Tempest, sorted


Good understanding of EvE you have there >.> strategic cruiser on undock going ~500-600m/s with most likely 80% resists is going to take more than 2-3 tempests to 1 shot it -.-

Helena C
Posted - 2009.12.03 04:32:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Lady Spank
My main just finished Amarr Battleship V.


And because of this you would make a wonderful Tempest pilot.

Tau Dades
Caldari
Even End of the Universe
Posted - 2009.12.03 04:37:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: TimMc
Fist off, concord will pop you.


LIEZ!


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