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Irongut
Sex Money Guns
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:29:00 - [91]
 

Here's a new idea for Dominion... Nerf CCP so they can't screw up the game any further.

The fact that AAA, Goons, NC and IT are all in agreement that Dominion has gone down the toilet should give you a little hint that you've screwed it. Delay the patch, go back to the drawing board and figure out how to make your previous ideas work.

Zenst
Hall Of Flame
Chain of Chaos
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:29:00 - [92]
 

Originally by: Rex Hargrove
This is a worse idea than walking in stations. I guess if you plan on ruining 0.0, it's time to start putting 100+ suicide BS in motsu and the other L4 mission running hubs.




Maybe its CCP's plan to get people into 0.0 by having current 0.0 band together and circle then squeeze low-sec into the new 0.0.

A cunning plan to a conning problem.

Bodega Cat
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:30:00 - [93]
 

Where is the workflow pipeline for CCP's design department published?

I want to know why everyone keeps talking about these developer posts like we know who they are and what they really do at CPP. How do we even know the internet forum avatar Nozh can't log in as anyone he wants. How do we know that Nozh isn't actually just a doosher community manager dude who just publishes what someone from the design department emailed him this morning?

Trust me, no one in that industry just hands over the entire cap ship initiative to a different guy days before launch and lets him mess it all up.

I don't mean to confuse the issue here but i wish everyone would stop refering to these forum icons and the affiliated names as the singular parties responsible for the tripe presented.

LoveKebab
Caldari
LOST IDEA
C0VEN
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:31:00 - [94]
 

so what now ? :D wts Hel - 16bil ? :D

marxist revolutionary
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:31:00 - [95]
 

Sounds like some great changes. Keep it up CCP!

White Aero
Burning Napalm
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:32:00 - [96]
 

WOW,
This is amazing. You finally do something that gets a lot of us old bitter eve vets all hot and bothered with the mothership changes and you completly screw it up. You have to know that many dozens of motherships/"supercarriers" are being built frantically before patch day. If I had wanted the same old crappy mothership I would have built one a long time ago. Yes I am emo, as I know many others are. Go back to the original plan that we all spent weeks testing and providing feedback on. Get your life sorted. And Nozh, I am sending Dastomy to your house!!!!!

Zintrex
Caldari
Reliables Inc
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:32:00 - [97]
 

First of all i want to thank you for ruining my day completely CCP.
I was saving up and working like a mad man to get me a mom... but i guess thats not gonna happen.

then over to more constructive tyipng.

you say that the titans is the logistical backbone of the fleet.
well a titan is usualy NOT on the field,
and they will become primaly a anti cap weapons.
so what do we lack in the capital fleets?

They are named Motherships.

what can they do?
carry about dubble the ammount of ships compared to a carrier.
they can lauch some more drones,
and they have bonuses for gang support.

why not inprove on what they actualy are.
they are a MOTHERSHIP

give the moms better clone bays, bigger ship mainenance bays,
and give them some gang bonuses that cannot be done in cheaper ships like command ships,
maybe introduce gang modules that can help the dreads and carriers on the field.
example: a gang mod that gives all caps on grid a armor resist boost.
(exluding super caps ofcorse)

that way you get them on the battle field and they will be worth taking out.
we dont need a omfg dps super cap killer. we need a functioning Capital GANG support ship.

and ofcorse a waay better tank.
you will not get them on the field if they can be wiped out easy.

lastly a example on what i think shoud be possible with a Mothership.

we have a battle betwen 2 large capital fleets and their support fleets.
on one side we have lost a total of 9 dread so far and the support has lost a total of 7 battleships,
the mothership pilot in this fleet has a clone bay fitted and does have a total of 8 battleships and some smaller ships in his ship bay.
he activates his clone bay and lets the pilots that has already lost their primary ship in the battle clone jump to him,
yes the mothership will be forced to stay a while on the battlefield,
BUT he can help his side get inn vital reinforcements and maybe save a part of his fleet.

i know a lot of ppl dont like this idea, but i posted what I think shoud be done with a currently USELESS overpriced ship.

ovenproofjet
Caldari
Therapy.
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:32:00 - [98]
 

Seriously....I'm putting Abathur incharge of everything 0.0 He and he alone is the only one allowed to look at any changes relating to capitals, supercaps, captial weapons and sov.

Thank you, have a happy Abathur Day!

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:32:00 - [99]
 

Please keep your replies on topic. Remember, posting something that is not constructive will be removed.

Kayl Breinhar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:33:00 - [100]
 

You know, in the original 100+ page thread I made a comment that I viewed the original Dominion blog as a "punishment" for all the work 0.0 entities have forced CCP to do for lesser gain and benefit than developing stuff to keep the Empire dwellers happy and subscribed. Was I right, CCP? Sure seems that way now.

Hazecat
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:33:00 - [101]
 

CCP should really look at connecting Jove space so we can show them why they are so wrong.

Ralph42nd
Gallente
Ars ex Discordia
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:33:00 - [102]
 

Edited by: Ralph42nd on 19/11/2009 23:38:24
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Please keep your replies on topic. Remember, posting something that is not constructive will be removed.


Then can you please explain the dozens of devblogs that are being reversed by some moron at YOUR company?

It's not my company being stupid, it's yours. If you don't like the backlash from YOUR customers I suggest you listen to them for a change.

Hatsumi Kobayashi
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:34:00 - [103]
 

You know, I think a lot of people were looking forward to Dominion.

See how I used the past tence here? Yeah.

Kushmir
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:34:00 - [104]
 

It is time for all of 0.0 too use those 5.0 sec status ratting characters to get into a t1 battleship and start jihading motsu and every other mission hub in high-sec.

Vadinho
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:34:00 - [105]
 

Originally by: The Slayer
apparently this is no longer eveonline.com it is now lokta.org. How about having a discussion about stuff instead of just deleting posts CCP?
i dont even know whyre paying a moderator to delete disapproving posts when they could just walk outside and stick their heads in the snow and shout 'lalalala' for maybe half the price

Aprudena Gist
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:35:00 - [106]
 

Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Please keep your replies on topic. Remember, posting something that is not constructive will be removed.


Can you please delete CCP Nozh's Blog post then. tyia.

Brennah
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:35:00 - [107]
 

Can you please just go ahead and teleport all the people telling you how horrible these changes are to jove space with no way back and then your conversion into being Sony Jr will be complete.

Also, rename Dominion NGE

Sertan Deras
Gallente
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:35:00 - [108]
 

Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Please keep your replies on topic. Remember, posting something that is not constructive will be removed.


Yes, completely ignoring the fact that we spent months posting constructive ideas on the subject, only to have the brilliant Nozh here tell us they are all crap and he is throwing away what was considered excellent work by the devs and community alike.

So yah, we definitely need to post MORE constructive stuff that you will ignore and/or lotka.org delete.

Karbowiak
Sniggerdly
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:35:00 - [109]
 

Deleting posts ain't helping.

Motherships wont be anything but big, flashy suicide ships now.. show up in a Mothership in lowsec, and you have personally alerted any big alliance in 50 jump radius, and if you arent carefull - OH SNAP.. Dead Mom..

Atleast give the mothership its eHP bonus, then sort out the fighterbombers and such later...

In all honesty tho, why change what was so good? it makes no sense at all...

The Slayer
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:36:00 - [110]
 

Edited by: The Slayer on 20/11/2009 23:01:45
Heres something constructive then : Why were these changes reversed when the majority of the playerbase was happy with the changes suggested at fanfest and tested pre dominion?

Jack Gates
Gallente
GoonWaffe
SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:36:00 - [111]
 

Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Please keep your replies on topic. Remember, posting something that is not constructive will be removed.


you mean posting things that don't point out how ccp screwed up isn't "on topic," even though that's very much the topic, and you guys are only trying to give it some kind of healthy spin. You don't want to deal with the backlash, it's plainly obvious, so don't **** on my leg and tell me it's raining.

Gorbon
Sex Money Guns
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:36:00 - [112]
 

Doesn't appear to be a ship worth piloting for sure.. What about all the time spent training mothership alts over the last while, can we swap those skills out to something useful?

Tinator
Exile Consortium
Nihilists Social Club
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:36:00 - [113]
 

Fail is strong in this one, atleast the price drop from moms is gone, but ohgod whats up with a few titans oneshotting them now? Can't you people do anything right?

Henri LeChasseur
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:37:00 - [114]
 

CCP, i am disappoint.

casai
Caldari
North Eastern Swat
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:38:00 - [115]
 

i think its time to get a live Q&A between the devs and the CSM soo we can all watch

Tappits
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:38:00 - [116]
 

Right So let me get this right you Nerf? Titans so thay have a anti cap DD mod
then you boosted supper carriers HP so thay can last longer and not be insta poped by 2-3 titans
then you renerf MoMs and say your not doing anything but are leaveng an anti mothership guns+DD on titans but no HP boost on MoMs mmm yer good plan ?????

whos going to be 1st to DD a mom then come pach time????

Realy CCP you need to start thinking about things first.

Scam Watcher
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:38:00 - [117]
 

so...lemme get this right. A FOUR HUNDRED page thread when the nano nerf was about to hit wasnt enough to change your minds about that game change, but a FORTY page thread with FOUR HUNDRED (a fraction of your paying users) pilots crying for a non-change is?

Nice priorities CCP, nice priorities.

CobraStylez
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:39:00 - [118]
 

Edited by: CobraStylez on 19/11/2009 23:44:45
Originally by: Jack Gates
[Quote=CCP Zymurgist]Please keep your replies on topic. Remember, posting something that is not constructive will be removed.



you mean posting things that don't point out how ccp screwed up isn't "on topic," even though that's very much the topic, and you guys are only trying to give it some kind of healthy spin. You don't want to deal with the backlash, it's plainly obvious, so don't **** on my leg and tell me it's raining.



I am very disappointed in this, hopefully someone can review this before Dec 1.

skidoo
Amarr
Endless Destruction
Imperial 0rder
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:40:00 - [119]
 

Well, at least now i know why only CCP has access to the 'Jove' ships. Cause at this very moment with IT and Goonswarm + other big name alliances agreeing on one thing... CCP is going to need em before we take over the game 0_o

Irongut
Sex Money Guns
Posted - 2009.11.19 23:40:00 - [120]
 

Thanks for deleting my posts CCCP, good job I made a copy of them first...

So everything that was good in Dominion has now been canceled and all we're left with is the crap? Good job CCP.

If you can't get it finished for 1st Dec you should have put the release date back a month, or more if necessary. There would be nothing wrong with that. While you're at it sack Nozh and put Abathur back in charge of the supercap changes, at least he knows what he's doing.


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