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Velocity Prime
The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
Posted - 2009.11.08 07:36:00 - [1]
 

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In keeping with my tradtion of “playing outside of the box”, I would like to give my official candidate endorsement for CSM4.

While many players will choose to vote for the candidate that they can best identify with, I want you to take a moment and think about the game that you love so much. In no other game other than EVE, are you fortunate enough to be able to forge your own path on such an epic scale, yet there are those out there who would insist on you playing the game as they would have you. A game with boundaries and restrictions that work against the very nature of the sandbox. A game on easy mode. A game where carebears rule and all others must bow to their prefered play style because, hey… they’re the loudest and most vocal, and to hell with anyone else who has other ideas of how to play the game.

While my preference for CSM candidate and fellow ninja salvager, Logit Probit seems blatantly obvious on the surface, it goes much deeper. I am here to say that a vote for Logit is a vote for keeping your game as the sandbox that we all have come to know and love. And while some of you may not agree with the practices of ninja salvaging, suicide ganking, and the general creation of chaos, you have to respect the fact that such practices are even a possibility, and that you’re not stuck in the internet spaceship version of WoW.

The big 0.0 alliances have their representation. The carebears have their representation. The pirates, god love ‘em, have their representation - these groups will always have representation. However, no other candidate beside Logit Probit is willing to stand up for the rights of players in the sandbox who choose to play the game differently – players who are able to see outside of the box that so many have become trapped within, players who strive to take the galaxy by the balls and give it a little twist. This is why I choose to endorse him and why I have formed The Sandbox Preservation Party, to support candidates who seek to rise up and defend against the degradation of our beloved EVE into a carebear ridden hell.

Believe me when I say that there are people out there that want to turn this game into WoW with spaceships. There are people sitting on the CSM who feel that way right now, there is an abundance of them running for CSM4, and there will be plenty of them elected and given a seat on the next CSM. Do not let their biases ruin your game. Let's change it up a bit. Let’s get a player on the CSM who will support the criminal element of EVE. The real criminal element. I’m not talking about the pirates that pirate other pirates, I’m talking about players that will suicide gank their own mother while she runs a level 4 mission, flip her cans, loot her faction mods, and then salvage her wreck if the price is right.

Here's a link to Logit's CSM platform. Read it for yourself, wade through the sea of trolls and decide. It's a rare opportunity to be able to stand up, vote, and take action on something that you believe in.

Save the sandbox. Power to the Players. Logit Probit for CSM4.



Velocity Prime
Chairman of The Sandbox Preservation Party
CEO, Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
CEO, Suddenly Ninjas


Lana's Alt
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
Posted - 2009.11.08 08:10:00 - [2]
 

Logit is an ass and I wouldn't be caught dead voting for him in a million years. Wink

Keve Treadwell
Posted - 2009.11.08 08:19:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Lana's Alt
Logit is an ass and I wouldn't be caught dead voting for him in a million years. Wink


Fighting to keep EVE from being WOW in space... you have my vote :)

Bai ZongTong
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2009.11.08 08:23:00 - [4]
 

I WANT TO KILL EVERYONE WHO BLOB (INGAME)

SolusLunes
Caldari
2plus2isfive
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2009.11.08 09:45:00 - [5]
 

You have my ax- er, vote.

Cyberin
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2009.11.08 13:44:00 - [6]
 

+3 votes for this fine, fine fellow :D

Alhambra Trellane
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.11.08 13:51:00 - [7]
 

Ninja salvager votes for ninja salvager, news at 11. Rolling Eyes

No.

The'Best Hellfury
Incura
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2009.11.08 13:55:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Lana's Alt
Logit is an ass and I wouldn't be caught dead voting for him in a million years. Wink

Roastedpot
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2009.11.08 14:26:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: The'Best Hellfury
Originally by: Lana's Alt
Logit is an ass and I wouldn't be caught dead voting for him in a million years. Wink


Velocity Prime
The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
Posted - 2009.11.08 14:42:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Lana's Alt
Logit is an ass and I wouldn't be caught dead voting for him in a million years. Wink


Spoken like a true carebear. They won't vote for him either!

(You better be careful, people are going to start to figure you out.) Wink


Aiden Mourn
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2009.11.08 18:26:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Alhambra Trellane
Ninja salvager votes for ninja salvager, news at 11. Rolling Eyes

No.


C&P troll makes lame joke about ninja salvagers, news at 11!

Wink
-Aiden

Shak'Rah
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2009.11.08 18:48:00 - [12]
 

i'm up for voting for anyone who is not a carebear, ergo, anyone wanting to blow stuff up in some form of pvp

Lyris Nairn
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.11.08 22:13:00 - [13]
 

I suppose, since Istvaan isn't on the list.

GreenYoshi
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2009.11.08 22:48:00 - [14]
 

Feels good to have a candidate that (in theory) wants to keep a focus on the non-mainstream professions. Got my vote.

Logit Probit
OIive OiI Inc.
Posted - 2009.11.09 09:26:00 - [15]
 

Thanks Velocity, I'm proud to have the endorsement of Suddenly Ninjas and TEARS. You guys embody everything that makes EvE a superior game.

Bai ZongTong
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2009.11.09 09:44:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Lana's Alt
Logit is an ass and I wouldn't be caught dead voting for him in a million years. Wink

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2009.11.09 09:59:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Logit Probit
Thanks Velocity, I'm proud to have the endorsement of Suddenly Ninjas and TEARS. You guys embody everything that makes EvE a superior game.


TEARS are generally a nice bunch, including VP, but really now...

I am severely opposed to representation by someone so single minded as you have proven yourself to be in your multiple candidacy speech attempts.

Logit Probit
OIive OiI Inc.
Posted - 2009.11.09 10:35:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: Logit Probit
Thanks Velocity, I'm proud to have the endorsement of Suddenly Ninjas and TEARS. You guys embody everything that makes EvE a superior game.


TEARS are generally a nice bunch, including VP, but really now...

I am severely opposed to representation by someone so single minded as you have proven yourself to be in your multiple candidacy speech attempts.


That disappoints me. I don't see single-mindedness when it comes to making sure game change proposals get scrutinized as a negative thing. I also don't see what is so bad about someone getting out there and making their campaign platform as clear as possible. I guess if you want to be represented by a bunch of people from huge 0.0 alliances, that's your right.

I'm willing to be honest about what I'm all about. What's wrong with that?

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2009.11.09 11:40:00 - [19]
 

My main concern is your initial projection of and agreement with accusations that you were only interested in preserving the ability to gank pve ships in high sec and that you didn't give a stuff for others opinions. Some of your retorts to people, in your own campaign thread have been incredibly snide and didn't entrench much confidence that you would have a broad spectrum of interests represented. I know C+P is troll and smack central, but I wouldn't expect it from someone in their own CSM campaign thread.

Your second attempt at promoting yourself was heavily geared around getting a free trip to iceland. If this was a joke it was a poor one.

Thing is... you do have some good points from time to time, but it sometimes takes several attempts to edit your posts, or make new threads on the subject to get the point across coherently, and in the process you manage to insult just about anyone who picks faults in your initiall bad posts. Either this is backpedalling on your part, or you do have op

To be entirely fair, I will reread your current CSM blurb but I just thought I would explain my reservations. A little more consistency and a little less "I don't care about you", would be appreciated.

I also know I talk a fair bit of crap on the forums but i'm not trying to be taken seriously, strongly the opposite in fact.

Bai ZongTong
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2009.11.09 16:39:00 - [20]
 

im having a mad stomachache. could it be related to this thread?

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2009.11.09 16:46:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Bai ZongTong
im having a mad stomachache. could it be related to this thread?

Do not eat thread.

Dragas Amitar
Gallente
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2009.11.09 17:27:00 - [22]
 

Oh hai. So, I heard you guys like communist ninjas.

Tirus Sinobi
Posted - 2009.11.09 17:59:00 - [23]
 

Quote:
Believe me when I say that there are people out there that want to turn this game into WoW with spaceships.


Well shouldnt they be free to do that if thats what they want? arent you forcing them to play in the cut-throat game of eve, and therefore narrowing there sandbox?

I dont know why people bother with this to such an extent, EVE will never be any different than what CCP want it to be, so what if the CSM is full of carebears/pirates, CCP will not do something against there vision of the game just because the CSM want them too.

The idea behind the CSM is to bring information from the community to CCP so they can decide how to act on it, the CSM have no power over the ultimate vision of EVE.

In short:
EVE will always be a sandbox game, and to veil your "vote for me" on the premise that one day it will not be, is both shortsighted and ignorant.

Index Appendix
Minmatar
Chimp Holdings
Posted - 2009.11.09 18:03:00 - [24]
 

I've seen this guy's other threads. They are always full of people getting upset. They are also full of assertions that whiners ruin MMOs. I sense a strong correlation.

+2 votes

Velocity Prime
The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
Posted - 2009.11.09 19:33:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Velocity Prime on 09/11/2009 19:40:20
Originally by: Lady Spank
TEARS are generally a nice bunch, including VP

Lies! We are horrible people, as is reflected by our gameplay. Razz

To be honest, when I decided to start this thread, I did so with the intent to inform, inspire, provoke, and enrage. It would seem that I have accomplished those goals.

Originally by: Tirus Sinobi
Quote:
Believe me when I say that there are people out there that want to turn this game into WoW with spaceships.


Well shouldnt they be free to do that if thats what they want? arent you forcing them to play in the cut-throat game of eve, and therefore narrowing there sandbox?

I dont know why people bother with this to such an extent, EVE will never be any different than what CCP want it to be, so what if the CSM is full of carebears/pirates, CCP will not do something against there vision of the game just because the CSM want them too.

The idea behind the CSM is to bring information from the community to CCP so they can decide how to act on it, the CSM have no power over the ultimate vision of EVE.

In short:
EVE will always be a sandbox game, and to veil your "vote for me" on the premise that one day it will not be, is both shortsighted and ignorant.


Tirus, I'm going to refer you to my widely read and popular blog Cool where I posted the same thing. Commenters such as yourself (including a mission running, CSM candidate who I highly respect) have posted arguments similar to your own and I and others have responded. Check it out, you're bored at work anyway.

I decided to post my endorsement up in C&P, to the community that would see the most benefit of voting for someone like Logit, with the full knowledge that it was going to be trolled repeatedly and then probably moved to Jita Park. So, thanks to the forum mods for leaving it place for so long and in front of the audience to which it was intended, and thank you to the trolls for not disappointing, your bumps are always appreciated.

Anyway, I'll leave it at that. Use your own judgement and give Logit your vote. Or don't. If you consider yourself a member of the awesome underbelly of EVE but are unsure about who to vote for, or even if you have an extra vote to spare, give one to Logit.


Durbin Watson
Posted - 2009.11.09 22:40:00 - [26]
 

It will be nice to have someone on CSM who is interested on more than just vanilla 0.0 and lowsec PvP.

Benedict Carol
Posted - 2009.11.09 23:06:00 - [27]
 

+1

You have my vote sir. Continue your noble fight.


Lana's Alt
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
Posted - 2009.11.10 01:37:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Lana''s Alt on 10/11/2009 01:37:54
Originally by: Velocity Prime
Originally by: Lana's Alt
Logit is an ass and I wouldn't be caught dead voting for him in a million years. Wink


Spoken like a true carebear. They won't vote for him either!

(You better be careful, people are going to start to figure you out.) Wink




What do you mean 'figure you out'.. Are you implying that I am a carebear? Or are you implying that you know something about me that no one else knows? You SHOULD know something about me that no one else knows but it has become quite obvious to me that you don't. I don't hold it against you, you have an alliance to run and im just one troll..

I have however made my position on voting for this CSM perfectly clear.. Its Lark or no one, and as hes not running.... (Or if they let ANY of the guiding hand members in and Lark isn't running)

Logit, you might be able to sway my vote if you took a leaf from Lark's book and opened your mind to the possibility that there are other things in this game than ****ing off mission runners (although I have to admit that is quite a bit of fun). I dont see you doing that, so im not voting for you. Don't worry though, im not voting for anyone so at least you don't have to worry about one of your opponents getting a handful of votes that could have gone to you.

Natalie Silver
Posted - 2009.11.10 01:44:00 - [29]
 

Real criminals realise that you can't legitimise crime.

Especially through a medium as crap as the CSM.

Jared D'Uroth
Minmatar
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.11.10 01:46:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Lana's Alt


I have however made my position on voting for this CSM perfectly clear.. Its Lark or no one, and as hes not running.... (Or if they let ANY of the guiding hand members in and Lark isn't running)




Why not Spectre?

Honestly, think Lark failed(he didn't get a chance to bring any of the important issues to the table), so wouldn't vote for him again.


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