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Bodrul
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.11.04 20:06:00 - [1]
 

http://www.goodpassword.com/

if anyone else has a better site feel free to post

example passwords

WVw6A2XhB]E43K7
T2.]9#8aMNzRtK5
L6XVc[aN75k4$ES
f:$t#T^J+beZs2S
U:,%KyB]57^p.xN

better then coming up with Random password on your own and you can make them up from Min to 20 Char long, thats what i do change it ever 3-4 weeks



Swiftgaze
Elysium Trading Company
Posted - 2009.11.04 20:43:00 - [2]
 

You can be my new bestest friend?

Dharh
Gallente
Ace Adventure Corp
Posted - 2009.11.04 20:49:00 - [3]
 

While I applaud the notion of using non name passwords this uses characters that most people just plain are not going to remember.

Also most account theft is due to keyloggers or people who write down their complicated passwords and that sheet of paper gets stolen. This wont be much help for those people.

Bodrul
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.11.04 21:07:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Dharh
While I applaud the notion of using non name passwords this uses characters that most people just plain are not going to remember.

Also most account theft is due to keyloggers or people who write down their complicated passwords and that sheet of paper gets stolen. This wont be much help for those people.


This is good for people who
do the following (Scan their computers for keyloggers and other crap)
Dont download dodgy software or go on sites that are dogdy


I use USB (saved to that)
its good to use passwords like that if you also take precautions as well.

thats just my view









kurg
Posted - 2009.11.04 21:20:00 - [5]
 

The length of the password or how cryptic you make it wont matter while players continue to do things like;

Log in from computers that do not belong to them.
Download or use pirated software (notorious for keyloggers).
Give friends their account information.
Provide account information to 3rd party sites or services (i.e. ISK, Mission grinding, Sec status grinding ..etc..).
Clicking on sites that require users to run, activate or execute external scripts.


I can go on and on, the fact of the matter is ITS up to individuals to protect THEIR account information!

Also, CCP if they really want to make a difference they can do what blizzard does with key authenticators.

Kembla
Posted - 2009.11.04 22:39:00 - [6]
 

EVE Online allows a maximum 64-character password composed of anything except spaces.

KeePass Password Safe ( http://keepass.info/ ) is a very useful programme for creating and storing these passwords. It is actually possible to use this in EVE:

?R{ह(UE???fNK?EaW?P?Y^(N?^QXh~?c`

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2009.11.04 23:04:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Bodrul
Originally by: Dharh
While I applaud the notion of using non name passwords this uses characters that most people just plain are not going to remember.

Also most account theft is due to keyloggers or people who write down their complicated passwords and that sheet of paper gets stolen. This wont be much help for those people.


This is good for people who
do the following (Scan their computers for keyloggers and other crap)
Dont download dodgy software or go on sites that are dogdy
Ironically if you follow those safe computing practices you could get by with 123456 as you password. Razz

Bodrul
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.11.04 23:19:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Zeba
Ironically if you follow those safe computing practices you could get by with 123456 as you password. Razz


that would be the best password for one reason
no one would think about using 123456 or think anyone would use such password :P



Evil Bugger
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2009.11.04 23:21:00 - [9]
 

stop trying to find wii sex toy videos and you are win.

Cadde
Gallente
221st Century Warfare
Posted - 2009.11.04 23:30:00 - [10]
 

While completely cryptic passwords are really hard to CRACK you have to be able to remember the password otherwise it defeats the whole purpose.
Having a note isn't "remembering", it's typing it down somewhere for someone to read. Also, consider that everytime you need to log in you still have to insert that password into the client. This is where, if your machine is compromised, the account stealer gets your password.

I settle with passwords that can be typed fairly quick and remembered easily like:

"1h4d4d0g" or
"hex539equalsl33t"

I also remember, way back in the days when i got my second PC, a 4:86 33MHz that came with DOS 5.0 the first thing i did was read the entire DOS manual.
On the last page was an ascii table and that's when it struck me.

I created a folder named "Mother" + (alt+255) +".cpu" where i kept all the stuff i wanted to keep safe.
I challenged all my friends to gain access to that folder and not a single one of them knew the trick. It didn't even work in windows because windows just said "Error, cannot access folder mother .cpu"
That worked for years until i finally told them how simple it really was. (Also, norton commander could deal with the folder just fine)

Where am i getting at? It's not how complicated your "password" is that keeps you safe. as long as your password isn't a single word in any dictionary and longer than 6 or 8 characters someone will have to spend a lot of time trying to crack it from the outside.
I sure hope the eve servers will detect and lock out such offenders when they failed the login for the 5th time in 5 seconds.

acegator25
Posted - 2009.11.05 00:24:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Cadde

I sure hope the eve servers will detect and lock out such offenders when they failed the login for the 5th time in 5 seconds.


I was actually surprised when I realized EvE doesn't give you a cool down after a certain number of attempts. I think a lot of the hacking could be cut down just by this and requiring a password contain both capital and lowercase letters, numbers, and a special character, ie. !@#$%^&*()_)+.

No key fobs needed Very Happy

Klausan
GK inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.11.05 00:27:00 - [12]
 

If you type your password here it wont show to other players.

*********

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2009.11.05 00:28:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Klausan
If you type your password here it wont show to other players.

*********
Suure. Gb24ch -.-

Kitimortoa
Posted - 2009.11.05 00:35:00 - [14]
 

I have an easy method.

1 keyboard.
1 face.

Pick a random spot on your keyboard to place your nose. Proceed to roll your face to the left, then the right, then the left again.

Copy and paste the middle of the resultant string.

This also works by sitting on your keyboard 10 times instead of facerolling.

Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2009.11.05 00:37:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: acegator25
Originally by: Cadde

I sure hope the eve servers will detect and lock out such offenders when they failed the login for the 5th time in 5 seconds.


I was actually surprised when I realized EvE doesn't give you a cool down after a certain number of attempts. I think a lot of the hacking could be cut down just by this and requiring a password contain both capital and lowercase letters, numbers, and a special character, ie. !@#$%^&*()_)+.

No key fobs needed Very Happy


I believe they do this, except it's done manually by GMs. I've heard of people having their accounts banned because GMs noticed people trying to brute-force their password.

Khemul Zula
Amarr
Keisen Trade League
Posted - 2009.11.05 02:53:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Kitimortoa
I have an easy method.

1 keyboard.
1 face.

Pick a random spot on your keyboard to place your nose. Proceed to roll your face to the left, then the right, then the left again.

Copy and paste the middle of the resultant string.

This also works by sitting on your keyboard 10 times instead of facerolling.
1 ferret.
1 bag (plastic generally not a good idea).

Place ferret in bag.
Shake & rub lightly for 20-30 seconds.
Empty bag onto keyboard.

Same effect, but much much more amusing.

CCP Applebabe

Posted - 2009.11.05 05:17:00 - [17]
 

Moved to " OOPE ".

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2009.11.05 05:47:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: acegator25
Originally by: Cadde

I sure hope the eve servers will detect and lock out such offenders when they failed the login for the 5th time in 5 seconds.


I was actually surprised when I realized EvE doesn't give you a cool down after a certain number of attempts. I think a lot of the hacking could be cut down just by this and requiring a password contain both capital and lowercase letters, numbers, and a special character, ie. !@#$%^&*()_)+.

No key fobs needed Very Happy


except having a strong password doesn't help if you are keylogged...

a key fob now that will help if you are keylogged.

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2009.11.05 05:56:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: acegator25
Originally by: Cadde

I sure hope the eve servers will detect and lock out such offenders when they failed the login for the 5th time in 5 seconds.


I was actually surprised when I realized EvE doesn't give you a cool down after a certain number of attempts. I think a lot of the hacking could be cut down just by this and requiring a password contain both capital and lowercase letters, numbers, and a special character, ie. !@#$%^&*()_)+.

No key fobs needed Very Happy


except having a strong password doesn't help if you are keylogged...

a key fob now that will help if you are keylogged.
Or..(hint hint ccp) that idea I made a thread about where they put a mouse driven virtural keyboard interface popup for the client that uses a proprietary code for the keys and keeps the mouse clicks internal to the client. That would stop a ton of hacks that were not forum login related(again because we have to use the same login details for both:P) to a minimum. No fobs required. Very Happy

Sazkyen
Posted - 2009.11.07 20:39:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Sazkyen on 07/11/2009 20:46:36

How the heck would anyone guess a password like this (not talking about cracking it, but guessing it):

JoinMeAndTogetherWeCanRuleTheGalaxyAsFatherAndSonInItCool

Jacob Mei
Gallente
Posted - 2009.11.08 01:42:00 - [21]
 

Why people think they need a 16-32 character-numerial-symbol password is beyond me.

The most secure password is:

one that does not link to you in any way shape or form (for the love of God, dont use your dogs name!)

Is easy for you to remember

can be typed on a keyboard quickly so anyone watching is likely not to see what keys you hit

Is not shared with a love one (I dont care if your wife of 50 years wants to know what it is, you dont share it!)



Run a weekly spyware scan and dont use the email you used to sign up to the game on other websites.

Really people this isnt quantum physics.

F'nog
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2009.11.08 08:26:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Jacob Mei
Why people think they need a 16-32 character-numerial-symbol password is beyond me.

The most secure password is:

one that does not link to you in any way shape or form (for the love of God, dont use your dogs name!)

Is easy for you to remember

can be typed on a keyboard quickly so anyone watching is likely not to see what keys you hit

Is not shared with a love one (I dont care if your wife of 50 years wants to know what it is, you dont share it!)



Run a weekly spyware scan and dont use the email you used to sign up to the game on other websites.

Really people this isnt quantum physics.


For the love of Zeus, listen to this man!

It's not about how complicated the password is, it's about how much it's not directly linked to you. Your password could be Dave, so long as there are no Daves associated with your life.

If you don't have a keylogger, then people will most likely be using something that's familiar to you, like your mom's name. So if you're Korean, Dave is probably fullproof, though some numbers probably wouldn't hurt. So just use something that's meaningful to you, so it's easy to remember, that no one would guess from a casual perusal of your residence, plus a number or character, and you're probably airtight.

I know it's worked for me for years.

Brujo Loco
Amarr
Brujeria Teologica
Posted - 2009.11.10 00:49:00 - [23]
 

My EVE password is DOG
My login HOT

its damn secure, trust me Laughing

Alty VonAltenstein
Posted - 2009.11.10 05:29:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Cadde

I also remember, way back in the days when i got my second PC, a 4:86 33MHz that came with DOS 5.0 the first thing i did was read the entire DOS manual.
On the last page was an ascii table and that's when it struck me.

I created a folder named "Mother" + (alt+255) +".cpu" where i kept all the stuff i wanted to keep safe.
I challenged all my friends to gain access to that folder and not a single one of them knew the trick. It didn't even work in windows because windows just said "Error, cannot access folder mother .cpu"
That worked for years until i finally told them how simple it really was. (Also, norton commander could deal with the folder just fine)



Forgive me if I am not fully understanding, but how did naming your folder "Mother" + (alt+255) + ".cpu" keep everything safe? And how could your friends not gain access to the folder?

Alty VonAltenstein
Posted - 2009.11.11 04:51:00 - [25]
 

hello?

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2009.11.11 06:22:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: acegator25
Originally by: Cadde

I sure hope the eve servers will detect and lock out such offenders when they failed the login for the 5th time in 5 seconds.


I was actually surprised when I realized EvE doesn't give you a cool down after a certain number of attempts. I think a lot of the hacking could be cut down just by this and requiring a password contain both capital and lowercase letters, numbers, and a special character, ie. !@#$%^&*()_)+.

No key fobs needed Very Happy


except having a strong password doesn't help if you are keylogged...

a key fob now that will help if you are keylogged.
Or..(hint hint ccp) that idea I made a thread about where they put a mouse driven virtural keyboard interface popup for the client that uses a proprietary code for the keys and keeps the mouse clicks internal to the client. That would stop a ton of hacks that were not forum login related(again because we have to use the same login details for both:P) to a minimum. No fobs required. Very Happy


but I want a fob that says eve on it, oh and hopefully it has a bottle opener on it Laughing


 

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