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Tesal
Posted - 2009.11.22 06:50:00 - [241]
 

Ok, now this is just getting stupid.

Turiel Demon
Minmatar
Celtic industries
Posted - 2009.11.22 19:19:00 - [242]
 

Originally by: Tesal
Ok, now this is just getting stupid.


What exactly?


Anyways, it's been a while since we were talking up Technetium... let's talk technetium to a higher level guys!

Cista2
Hydra Investment Fund
Posted - 2009.11.22 20:15:00 - [243]
 

Originally by: Turiel Demon
Anyways, it's been a while since we were talking up Technetium... let's talk technetium to a higher level guys!
Technetium is strapped by its wrists and ankles and won't move anywhere the next 4-5 days.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2009.11.22 20:36:00 - [244]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 22/11/2009 20:37:59
Just wait until the patch actually hits... THEN we'll see some nifty chaos.

Triladir
Gallente
Invictus Australis
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2009.11.23 00:16:00 - [245]
 

Bring it on....

There was a few Chromium moons changing hands in low-sec at the moment... So hold onto that chromium tight folks Razz

Tesal
Posted - 2009.11.23 03:06:00 - [246]
 

Originally by: Turiel Demon
Originally by: Tesal
Ok, now this is just getting stupid.


What exactly?


Anyways, it's been a while since we were talking up Technetium... let's talk technetium to a higher level guys!


There is zero content to these posts, no technical data, just "this is up" or "buy this". This is not conducive to people buying into value, its conducive to ripping people off.

Lieutenant Obvious
Lobster Sticks To Magnet
Posted - 2009.11.23 03:07:00 - [247]
 

Edited by: Lieutenant Obvious on 23/11/2009 03:07:26
Originally by: Turiel Demon
Originally by: Tesal
Ok, now this is just getting stupid.


What exactly?


If Tesal was refering to Crystal Carb Armor Plates, I thought it was genius (being that I had plenty [relative] on HIGH sell orders as it occurred).

From 14k to 89k and all the way back down again.

Edit: OK, maybe not.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2009.11.23 04:18:00 - [248]
 

Originally by: Tesal
Originally by: Turiel Demon
Originally by: Tesal
Ok, now this is just getting stupid.

What exactly?
Anyways, it's been a while since we were talking up Technetium... let's talk technetium to a higher level guys!

There is zero content to these posts, no technical data, just "this is up" or "buy this". This is not conducive to people buying into value, its conducive to ripping people off.

Well, the only new information right now is that there's no new information... SiSi stats haven't changed, tech moon count is still very much up for debate.
Notice how I haven't said anything about technetium for a few pages Wink

Tesal
Posted - 2009.11.23 04:22:00 - [249]
 

Edited by: Tesal on 23/11/2009 04:23:27
Originally by: Lieutenant Obvious
Edited by: Lieutenant Obvious on 23/11/2009 03:07:26
Originally by: Turiel Demon
Originally by: Tesal
Ok, now this is just getting stupid.


What exactly?


If Tesal was refering to Crystal Carb Armor Plates, I thought it was genius (being that I had plenty [relative] on HIGH sell orders as it occurred).

From 14k to 89k and all the way back down again.

Edit: OK, maybe not.


I am speaking generally. People are creating conditions that are not conducive to making investments. This will delay the effects of the patch and reduces volume *consumed*.

Mahke
Aeon Of Strife
Discord.
Posted - 2009.11.23 06:54:00 - [250]
 

Edited by: Mahke on 23/11/2009 06:56:13
Originally by: Tesal
Edited by: Tesal on 23/11/2009 04:23:27
Originally by: Lieutenant Obvious
Edited by: Lieutenant Obvious on 23/11/2009 03:07:26
Originally by: Turiel Demon
Originally by: Tesal
Ok, now this is just getting stupid.


What exactly?


If Tesal was refering to Crystal Carb Armor Plates, I thought it was genius (being that I had plenty [relative] on HIGH sell orders as it occurred).

From 14k to 89k and all the way back down again.

Edit: OK, maybe not.


I am speaking generally. People are creating conditions that are not conducive to making investments. This will delay the effects of the patch and reduces volume *consumed*.


Translated: I have a good idea for a long-term bet, but, don't have the balls to make it because of the risk of price collapse if CCP nerfs specific things since prices are already inflated in expectation of dominion.

Guess what? Prices are getting inflated because the old dypsprosium and prom values have to go SOMEWHERE, and theres too much demand for all of it to go to lower prices. If you want to make a bet put your chips down for as much as your willing to lose.

If you're not willing to do that then don't complain about those of us who are. I could cash out right now at about 40-50% profit for a weeks investment total, but, **** that, not worth doing yet for what I'm in atm, risk or not. If CCP doesn't lower build costs further, prices on some of the raws still have a good amount of upward movement left in them.

edit: in the short-term post patch consumption is going to be limited by dys and prom still for a short while (or inventors capacity, I haven't ran the math on which), before stockpiles of new bottlenecks are burned through, so thats a red herring.

Cista2
Hydra Investment Fund
Posted - 2009.11.23 07:10:00 - [251]
 

Originally by: Tesal
People are creating conditions that are not conducive to making investments. This will delay the effects of the patch and reduces volume *consumed*.
Eve is an MMO, the conditions you face are not set alone by the game rules, but the interactions of players. If prices on the market were simply dictated by ingame technical parameters, it wouldn't be much fun speculating. This is the Market Forum, and we can discuss the "human emotion" aspects of the market as much as the theoretical base consumption of a mineral.

When I say that Technetium won't move anywhere for 4-5 days it is because of the current structure of buy and sell orders surrounding the current prices. These are important variables for the development of the price in this time frame, on top of the longterm expectations stemming from Akita's and others work. You can take my opinion as legit info, or come up with a better estimate yourself before you invest.

Turiel Demon
Minmatar
Celtic industries
Posted - 2009.11.23 12:48:00 - [252]
 

Originally by: Tesal
Originally by: Turiel Demon
Originally by: Tesal
Ok, now this is just getting stupid.


What exactly?


Anyways, it's been a while since we were talking up Technetium... let's talk technetium to a higher level guys!


There is zero content to these posts, no technical data, just "this is up" or "buy this". This is not conducive to people buying into value, its conducive to ripping people off.


I disagree. This thread is a bit of a combination of market analysis, speculation-watch and speculation/future-prices prediction; as such, a lot of post may just be 'hey look what happened to Titanium Carbide' or 'Neodymium went up a few thousand' - information that anyone interested can see from the market histories tab - but the context of this thread invites discussion on possible reasons that this or that material is performing in this or that way.

I enjoy seeing predictions come true, but it's also very interesting to see when they do not, and to analyze what factor caused me or any of us to be wrong in our line of reasoning. Platinum is a decent example of this; you responded eventually to Dahkare saying 'I agree with you about Platinum' I think, which may not contribute overmuch but it's valid feed-back on our discussion about the material - in effect it's saying 'I have looked at the situation and my conclusion is the same as yours' which I much preffer to oone saying anything at all, irrespective of the prediction being right or wrong, it's a confirmation that someone isn't just making stuff up and gives the thread some activity Smile

I'll agree with you that there could be more reasoning explained, like when Cista2 said Neodymium would go to 20k. I looked at it and saw why she thought that, agreeing with the reasoning, and then consciously decided not to explain why I agreed for the simple reason that I didn't want to give away that speculative insight just yet, as I didn't want to trigger a price spike before I'd bought stock.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2009.11.23 16:13:00 - [253]
 

Minor corrections and adjustments made, most important one was a "slight" mistake in the total "manufacture slot month" calculations on both before/after Dominion sheets, and a minor (compared to total volume) reaction misshap on a lesser mineral.

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0911/AkitaT_Dominion_v3d_Office2007.zip (Linkage)

The manufacture "slot months" calculation was missing a "24" (was just 3600*30 instead of 3600*24*30... well, ratios do remain the same, but the amount of manufacturers supported by the economy did seem extremely high, hehe, now I know why).
Added the refreshed comparison sheet.
Also added a brand new "Reactions in EVE overview" sheet (what moon minerals go where and all intermediate reaction names - that's how I noticed the discrepancy in v3c).

All in all, if you were using v3c before, it would be a good idea to get v3d ASAP.

EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.11.23 16:44:00 - [254]
 

Edited by: EvilweaselSA on 23/11/2009 16:49:37
Edited by: EvilweaselSA on 23/11/2009 16:44:41
Originally by: Cista2
Originally by: Dahkare Raynor
I definitely agree with you on neodymium. I bought some more @ 9k the other day because I agree with you. It seems like a very stable counter part to technetium. Especially if they decide to Nerf just technetium.
Unless some large loads are dumped on the market, Neodymium will jump to 20k within the next 3 days.


ok cramer

any other hot stock tips

for the record: neo, three days after this post: 11k

Turiel Demon
Minmatar
Celtic industries
Posted - 2009.11.23 17:20:00 - [255]
 

Originally by: EvilweaselSA
Edited by: EvilweaselSA on 23/11/2009 16:49:37
Edited by: EvilweaselSA on 23/11/2009 16:44:41
Originally by: Cista2
Originally by: Dahkare Raynor
I definitely agree with you on neodymium. I bought some more @ 9k the other day because I agree with you. It seems like a very stable counter part to technetium. Especially if they decide to Nerf just technetium.
Unless some large loads are dumped on the market, Neodymium will jump to 20k within the next 3 days.


ok cramer

any other hot stock tips

for the record: neo, three days after this post: 11k


Ohai. Bolded the important part.

A few hours after Cista's post that day someone dumped a huge sell order on the market which was about 2x the volume of what had been between 10K and 20K at the time of posting.


Neo did in fact somewhat unexpectedly (given the big stock dumped on the market) go to 15k for a short time in the last few days, and it will probably work its way to 20K by the end of the week.

Tesal
Posted - 2009.11.23 18:24:00 - [256]
 

Edited by: Tesal on 23/11/2009 19:03:34
Edited by: Tesal on 23/11/2009 18:38:19
Death to Cobalt.

*edit
Look at Silicates there, desperately scratching for the price to go up.

Sorry...NO!

*edit
You do realize for Neo that the top sell order is enough to break the price level for sell orders and if you include the next 2 orders that alone is enough to drop prices by 10%. The top buy order can get yanked at any time causing a cascade all the way to 7900. It is in a very fragile state. If people make the judgment right now that it should go down and they have some stocks to bet with, it will go down.

Mahke
Aeon Of Strife
Discord.
Posted - 2009.11.23 19:47:00 - [257]
 

Originally by: Tesal
Edited by: Tesal on 23/11/2009 19:03:34
Edited by: Tesal on 23/11/2009 18:38:19
Death to Cobalt.

*edit
Look at Silicates there, desperately scratching for the price to go up.

Sorry...NO!

*edit
You do realize for Neo that the top sell order is enough to break the price level for sell orders and if you include the next 2 orders that alone is enough to drop prices by 10%. The top buy order can get yanked at any time causing a cascade all the way to 7900. It is in a very fragile state. If people make the judgment right now that it should go down and they have some stocks to bet with, it will go down.


The reasoning for betting on neo has nothing to do with short-term pricing and everything to do with the fact that if CCP narrowly nerfs technetium (say by reducing fulleride need), then neo will become the next bottleneck, but, it won't be massively above others like tech will if nothing happens, thus not being nearly as likely to merit or draw a nerfbat.

Hence a combination of neo and tech is an excellent long-term play: if no change, your tech skyrockets, if tech narrowly changed (which is ideally what needs to happen), neo will go up (although not nearly as much as tech will in the no-change scenario). You still could be whiped out of course, but, thats why you don't speculate what you can't afford to lose in the first place. Even considering that, the fact that you can partially "insure" a tech bet by buying neo and a neo bet by buying tech is kind of a big deal, and drastically improves the goodness of both.

The time for making tons of isk at relatively low risk on short term speculation is IMO already over. Now is the time for rolling the dice on what will actually hit the servers, and thats always risky.

Tesal
Posted - 2009.11.23 19:59:00 - [258]
 

Originally by: Mahke
Originally by: Tesal
Edited by: Tesal on 23/11/2009 19:03:34
Edited by: Tesal on 23/11/2009 18:38:19
Death to Cobalt.

*edit
Look at Silicates there, desperately scratching for the price to go up.

Sorry...NO!

*edit
You do realize for Neo that the top sell order is enough to break the price level for sell orders and if you include the next 2 orders that alone is enough to drop prices by 10%. The top buy order can get yanked at any time causing a cascade all the way to 7900. It is in a very fragile state. If people make the judgment right now that it should go down and they have some stocks to bet with, it will go down.


The reasoning for betting on neo has nothing to do with short-term pricing and everything to do with the fact that if CCP narrowly nerfs technetium (say by reducing fulleride need), then neo will become the next bottleneck, but, it won't be massively above others like tech will if nothing happens, thus not being nearly as likely to merit or draw a nerfbat.

Hence a combination of neo and tech is an excellent long-term play: if no change, your tech skyrockets, if tech narrowly changed (which is ideally what needs to happen), neo will go up (although not nearly as much as tech will in the no-change scenario). You still could be whiped out of course, but, thats why you don't speculate what you can't afford to lose in the first place. Even considering that, the fact that you can partially "insure" a tech bet by buying neo and a neo bet by buying tech is kind of a big deal, and drastically improves the goodness of both.

The time for making tons of isk at relatively low risk on short term speculation is IMO already over. Now is the time for rolling the dice on what will actually hit the servers, and thats always risky.


Conversely, if you make a bet for after the patch, and go for the long term, the best bet is to crash the price, buy it up and then wait on the patch effect. There is a strong incentive to gut the market. Just sayin.

Cista2
Hydra Investment Fund
Posted - 2009.11.23 20:16:00 - [259]
 

Edited by: Cista2 on 23/11/2009 20:23:00
Originally by: EvilweaselSA
ok cramer
any other hot stock tips
for the record: neo, three days after this post: 11k
Lol, did you go skiing in the weekend? Neo did exactly as I predicted - in spite of one mother sell order it had a good spike at 15k. I made isk - sorry you missed it.

Originally by: Mahke
The reasoning for betting on neo has nothing to do with short-term pricing and everything to do with the fact that if CCP narrowly nerfs technetium...

True, and not true... There are still some day-to-day movements, as witnessed by Neodymium again - also Platinum is now surprisingly low, might produce another hiccup next week (edit: that would be this week ofc)
And what happens around the launch days Shocked? Isk can be made in the short term as well as long term, both are interesting battlefields IMO.




EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.11.23 21:01:00 - [260]
 

Edited by: EvilweaselSA on 23/11/2009 21:06:15
Originally by: Turiel Demon

Ohai. Bolded the important part.

A few hours after Cista's post that day someone dumped a huge sell order on the market which was about 2x the volume of what had been between 10K and 20K at the time of posting.


Neo did in fact somewhat unexpectedly (given the big stock dumped on the market) go to 15k for a short time in the last few days, and it will probably work its way to 20K by the end of the week.



of course large loads were going to be dumped on the market, that was obvious, it's also obvious it would cause the price to go down

"unless the usual thing happens to restrain the price, the price will go up" i'm a stock analyst give me all your money

here is a hot tip for you: the price will go down, unless people are buying more than people are putting on the market

Originally by: Cista2
Lol, did you go skiing in the weekend? Neo did exactly as I predicted - in spite of one mother sell order it had a good spike at 15k. I made isk - sorry you missed it.



goalposts, moving? what a world! did the price hit 20k? no? not even close? an admission of error? no, rather an assertion that you were correct nonetheless? ok then

you actually might have a future as a stock analyst, I recommend hawking morgages

EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.11.23 21:12:00 - [261]
 

Edited by: EvilweaselSA on 23/11/2009 21:14:02
also I MADE MONEY DON'T YOU DARE QUESTION MY METHODS lol

i've got a stockbroker who used to play for the mets who made some consistent money (in a booming market) want his number? just don't ask about when things went bad

I mean man "hey I made money buy buying neodymium and using my MAGIC METHODS to figure out the price would go up" is pretty lame, the price is steadily inching upwards because every day without ccp figuring our how badly they've bungled these moon mining changes (not that I'm upset, since they offer private profit in the interim while my directors nationalize different moons for their moon goo habit) makes it more likely they go live, meaning the price edges closer to the post-dominion price with these changes, and so basically every method that predicts "buy neo now, sell later" will make money (and of course if it's changed well that's just not your fault, all gains are because you're great, all losses are because of things out of your control)

everything in the interim is noise caused by fluctuations in when people ship to and from jita

hope that little knowledge bomb was edifying

edit: I remembered some of you might be euros or the like so you might not get these references, if you don't terribly sorry

Cista2
Hydra Investment Fund
Posted - 2009.11.23 21:43:00 - [262]
 

Originally by: EvilweaselSA
the price is steadily inching upwards
Impressive. Are you some sort of Goonswarm secret weapon for the finance market?

EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.11.23 21:45:00 - [263]
 

Edited by: EvilweaselSA on 23/11/2009 21:45:03
Originally by: Cista2
Originally by: EvilweaselSA
the price is steadily inching upwards
Impressive. Are you some sort of Goonswarm secret weapon for the finance market?


yeah

first lesson: difference between 15,000 and 20,000

i can't tell you the answer though, for that you have to join goonswarm

EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.11.23 21:54:00 - [264]
 

its also kind of hilarious you think that's an effective refutation but then again someone who considers eve speculation on patch changes "finance" probably isn't big on grasping how things appear to normal people

Meths
The Big Gay Animal Zoo
Posted - 2009.11.23 22:56:00 - [265]
 

Originally by: EvilweaselSA
its also kind of hilarious you think that's an effective refutation but then again someone who considers eve speculation on patch changes "finance" probably isn't big on grasping how things appear to normal people


you're a bit of a knob aren't you

EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.11.23 23:03:00 - [266]
 

Edited by: EvilweaselSA on 23/11/2009 23:05:46
Originally by: Meths
Originally by: EvilweaselSA
its also kind of hilarious you think that's an effective refutation but then again someone who considers eve speculation on patch changes "finance" probably isn't big on grasping how things appear to normal people


you're a bit of a knob aren't you


i'm from goonswarm and I'm here to help

but seriously its kind of hilarious to watch people pat themselves on the back as ~~master financiers~~ when they're so bad at it, my posts are actually full of extremely helpful information, though the difference between 15k and 20k will remain a goonswarm secret

Turiel Demon
Minmatar
Celtic industries
Posted - 2009.11.23 23:20:00 - [267]
 

Originally by: EvilweaselSA
Edited by: EvilweaselSA on 23/11/2009 21:06:15
Originally by: Turiel Demon

Ohai. Bolded the important part.

A few hours after Cista's post that day someone dumped a huge sell order on the market which was about 2x the volume of what had been between 10K and 20K at the time of posting.


Neo did in fact somewhat unexpectedly (given the big stock dumped on the market) go to 15k for a short time in the last few days, and it will probably work its way to 20K by the end of the week.



of course large loads were going to be dumped on the market, that was obvious, it's also obvious it would cause the price to go down

"unless the usual thing happens to restrain the price, the price will go up" i'm a stock analyst give me all your money

here is a hot tip for you: the price will go down, unless people are buying more than people are putting on the market

[...]



A large stock of Neo landing on the market at 10K was not expected, it was in fact an incredibly dumb move on the part of the seller. Had he waited a couple of days he could have sold it for considerably more - if more slowly - but instead he chose to kill the chances of turning 5b worth of Neo into 7.5b or 10b... I have no idea why. Anyone with a rudimentary grasp of the eve markets could see what was about to happen.

If we look at the market now, and see where it would be had 500K units not unnecessarily been moved at 10k, sell price would (at a rough estimate) be at 17K right now. What's that I hear you say? That's not 20k? No, and I don't recall anyone saying 'it's going to be 20k forever and ever starting 3 days from now'. Moving the goalposts? maybe your imaginary goalposts.

It'll go up more slowly than we might have expected it to because it's not got a weekend to do it in, and the market simply moves more slowly on the weekdays.


For all the words I'm wasting on you I don't really know what your complaint is; like Cista I sold a decent amount of stock at ~13-15k knowing I would be able to re-buy lower, I'm sure others did too, but those not watching the Neo market might not have been able to if not for the warning. You seem to be bawling that there was only a 50% immediate profit to be made rather than a 100% one... QQ more tbh.


[/eveconomics lesson for the terminally trollish]

Tesal
Posted - 2009.11.23 23:28:00 - [268]
 

Edited by: Tesal on 23/11/2009 23:30:35
Hey, I was trolling this thread! Go back to CAOD Goon. Laughing

On paper I made 100b isk after the patch.

*edit
Originally by: Turiel Demon
Originally by: EvilweaselSA
Edited by: EvilweaselSA on 23/11/2009 21:06:15
Originally by: Turiel Demon

Ohai. Bolded the important part.

A few hours after Cista's post that day someone dumped a huge sell order on the market which was about 2x the volume of what had been between 10K and 20K at the time of posting.


Neo did in fact somewhat unexpectedly (given the big stock dumped on the market) go to 15k for a short time in the last few days, and it will probably work its way to 20K by the end of the week.



of course large loads were going to be dumped on the market, that was obvious, it's also obvious it would cause the price to go down

"unless the usual thing happens to restrain the price, the price will go up" i'm a stock analyst give me all your money

here is a hot tip for you: the price will go down, unless people are buying more than people are putting on the market

[...]



A large stock of Neo landing on the market at 10K was not expected, it was in fact an incredibly dumb move on the part of the seller. Had he waited a couple of days he could have sold it for considerably more - if more slowly - but instead he chose to kill the chances of turning 5b worth of Neo into 7.5b or 10b... I have no idea why. Anyone with a rudimentary grasp of the eve markets could see what was about to happen.

If we look at the market now, and see where it would be had 500K units not unnecessarily been moved at 10k, sell price would (at a rough estimate) be at 17K right now. What's that I hear you say? That's not 20k? No, and I don't recall anyone saying 'it's going to be 20k forever and ever starting 3 days from now'. Moving the goalposts? maybe your imaginary goalposts.

It'll go up more slowly than we might have expected it to because it's not got a weekend to do it in, and the market simply moves more slowly on the weekdays.


For all the words I'm wasting on you I don't really know what your complaint is; like Cista I sold a decent amount of stock at ~13-15k knowing I would be able to re-buy lower, I'm sure others did too, but those not watching the Neo market might not have been able to if not for the warning. You seem to be bawling that there was only a 50% immediate profit to be made rather than a 100% one... QQ more tbh.


[/eveconomics lesson for the terminally trollish]

Meh...what if you have half a million units? And what if 60 other people have half a million units? Where does that put that decision?

Turiel Demon
Minmatar
Celtic industries
Posted - 2009.11.23 23:53:00 - [269]
 

Originally by: Tesal
Edited by: Tesal on 23/11/2009 23:30:35
Hey, I was trolling this thread! Go back to CAOD Goon. Laughing

On paper I made 100b isk after the patch.

*edit
Originally by: Turiel Demon
[stuff]

Meh...what if you have half a million units? And what if 60 other people have half a million units? Where does that put that decision?


That's a good question, the answer lies partly in the units/day sold that you can see on the market history tab.

If you have half a million units, and there are 100K units on the market with 200K moving per day (not identical, but analogous to the situation we were talking about) then I'd wait and exploit the shortage.

If you have half a million units, and 60 other people have half a million units, it's pretty damn likely that more than 0.66% of the currently available stock waiting to be sold would be on the market - being sold - and so there would be more than 100K on the market. Indeed, if 200k was moving per day and there were 30m units unused out there I'd expect the price would be somewhere closer to 50isk/unit.


The amount of stock that is 'out there' at any given time may not be known, but the general level can be estimated at don't you think?

EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.11.24 00:13:00 - [270]
 

Edited by: EvilweaselSA on 24/11/2009 00:16:16
Originally by: Turiel Demon

A large stock of Neo landing on the market at 10K was not expected, it was in fact an incredibly dumb move on the part of the seller. Had he waited a couple of days he could have sold it for considerably more - if more slowly - but instead he chose to kill the chances of turning 5b worth of Neo into 7.5b or 10b... I have no idea why. Anyone with a rudimentary grasp of the eve markets could see what was about to happen.



ok turiel demon, I hinted at this before, but why might someone want to dump neo now?

hint: neo speculation isn't risk-free, if there was more time to dominion I'd be selling right now but since there's only a week and ccp is clearly overloaded I'm not, why would that be

Originally by: Turiel Demon

For all the words I'm wasting on you I don't really know what your complaint is; like Cista I sold a decent amount of stock at ~13-15k knowing I would be able to re-buy lower, I'm sure others did too, but those not watching the Neo market might not have been able to if not for the warning. You seem to be bawling that there was only a 50% immediate profit to be made rather than a 100% one... QQ more tbh.


[/eveconomics lesson for the terminally trollish]


i have no complaints there's much better people to bounce ideas off in goonswarm but man are you guys touchy at being called out when your predictions fall flat on their face

and again managing to sell neo at a profit right now isn't exactly proof you're a brilliant trader: this is a hard lesson many people learned about their stockbroker who was so great right until the market crashed


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