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Normin Bates
Posted - 2009.10.29 11:09:00 - [61]
 

Or you could limit who has access to the executor corp. (You're cool, here's the keys)

Or you could not share accounts. (Sure! You can borrow my carrier any time you want!)

Or you could not **** off people who will wait for revenge. (Did we say NRDS? Yes, but not like that Laughing )


This game mechanic is easy to protect against and has only been a problem for idiots.

DaDutchDude
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2009.10.29 11:09:00 - [62]
 

Supported. Actions that have increasing levels on impact on characters, corps and alliances should have increasing levels of security, not less.

Wollari
Phoenix Industries
Wicked Nation
Posted - 2009.10.29 11:10:00 - [63]
 

Edited by: Wollari on 29/10/2009 11:11:55
Edited by: Wollari on 29/10/2009 11:10:38
The problem which most posters aren't realizing is:

There's not Button "Disband Alliance", you can only kick corporations one by one until no one is left.

My proposal:

1) Fast Change for Dominion:
- You can only expell 1 Corporation per hour. This way a complete disband would take longer and would make it complicated do and getting uninteresting. When do you really have to kick more then 1 corp? Corps can still leave on their own without the delay (by pressing leave alliance).
- Mail send to all Corporation CEOs/Directos of the Alliance that Corp XYZ has been expelled from the Alliance.

2) Longterm Change for Alliance Exucitve.
- Alliance Executive Corp CEO can directly expell Corporations (1 per hour)
- Directors have to make a Vote for kicking a Corporation (similar to war decs, atleast 2 directors)
- Expell more Corporations per Hour: Vote Created by CEO.
- Overhaul Corporation and Alliance Management Interface

I think that my first point should be easy to implement without the needed overhaul of the complete alliance/corporation management interface. It reduce the risk of a sudden death of an alliance.

Escoce
Gallente
Interstellar Tritanium
United Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2009.10.29 11:15:00 - [64]
 

My name is Escoce and I approve this message.

/signed

Kuruaki
Posted - 2009.10.29 11:22:00 - [65]
 

/signed

Marlona Sky
Caldari Provisions

Posted - 2009.10.29 11:33:00 - [66]
 

So, is CSM gonna bring this up to CCP or now that their free vacation is done and free subscriptions are coming to an end are they just gonna ignore the public again?

Maybe we have to bribe Mazz to get here to bring this forward to CCP?

CSM, what are you gonna do about this?!?!?!

Also, I supported this being fixed when this happened to BoB so naturally I will be supporting this again. Even though CVA are ultra-cheating ****s when they are worried they are gonna lose space to another alliance... *cough* jet canning 1000+ bookmarks from haulers during pos seiges to crash nodes *cough*... What you think I forgot about that? Razz

Anyways, CSM, do something to earn your salary. Thats right, us players pay CCP, who in turn pay for your free stuff. You work for us mother ****ers.

Very Happy



Hsu Li
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2009.10.29 11:35:00 - [67]
 

+1

Azrael Acid
Gallente
Pwn 'N Play
Chaos Theory Alliance
Posted - 2009.10.29 11:38:00 - [68]
 

SIGNED.
I agree with all the previous ideas. Fully, 150% supported.


As an aside, HACKERS are the problem. Not infiltrators. Hackers get their jollies by hacking just for the ACTION of doing it, for the choas it causes, and for the publicity it generates. So speculating on whether it should be rolled back/reversed is a moot point. The fact that it happened, and that hacking is becoming a very serious issue is what needs to be addressed. Please CCP, for all alliances everywhere. FIX ITShocked

Lord Cath
Amarr
Gung-Ho
Posted - 2009.10.29 11:46:00 - [69]
 

it takes 10 hours to go take a crap in eve but you can disband a huge alliance with one click... it doesnt make sense, so fix it.

Kjar Achran
Minmatar
Gung-Ho
Posted - 2009.10.29 11:47:00 - [70]
 


fooMiNiOn
Pwn 'N Play
Chaos Theory Alliance
Posted - 2009.10.29 11:52:00 - [71]
 

Werd. Signed.

RiotRick
Kamehameha I's Revenge
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2009.10.29 11:54:00 - [72]
 

Should have been implemented already.

De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2009.10.29 11:56:00 - [73]
 

Agreed.

authochthonian
Gallente
Posted - 2009.10.29 12:17:00 - [74]
 

Long over due change

Supported/Signed

U'los Riddick
Posted - 2009.10.29 12:27:00 - [75]
 

Definitely

High Star
Posted - 2009.10.29 12:52:00 - [76]
 

supported

Luminus Aardokay
Gallente
SI Radio
Split Infinity.
Posted - 2009.10.29 12:52:00 - [77]
 

Sensible enough

The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2009.10.29 12:55:00 - [78]
 

However it is done, this function needs a cooldown and shared authority in some fashion.

Very strongly supported.

Cosmo

Cyberin
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2009.10.29 13:12:00 - [79]
 

/signed/

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Amarr
Robber Barons Inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.10.29 13:15:00 - [80]
 

Originally by: Marlona Sky
So, is CSM gonna bring this up to CCP or now that their free vacation is done and free subscriptions are coming to an end are they just gonna ignore the public again?

Maybe we have to bribe Mazz to get here to bring this forward to CCP?

CSM, what are you gonna do about this?!?!?!

Also, I supported this being fixed when this happened to BoB so naturally I will be supporting this again. Even though CVA are ultra-cheating ****s when they are worried they are gonna lose space to another alliance... *cough* jet canning 1000+ bookmarks from haulers during pos seiges to crash nodes *cough*... What you think I forgot about that? Razz

Anyways, CSM, do something to earn your salary. Thats right, us players pay CCP, who in turn pay for your free stuff. You work for us mother ****ers.

Very Happy





not possible since this issue won't be 7 days old by the time the final CSM meeting happens. this is for the next CSM to handle

Elaron
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2009.10.29 13:20:00 - [81]
 

Originally by: Marlona Sky
So CCP has confirmed the account was hacked and is going to roll it back??
By various accounts, yes, that's exactly the case.

I am with these calls; there should be some form of timer or method to ratify this kind of action.

Pan Dora
Caldari
Organization for Nuclear Research

Posted - 2009.10.29 13:20:00 - [82]
 



Farinet
Posted - 2009.10.29 13:23:00 - [83]
 


Resivan
Posted - 2009.10.29 13:30:00 - [84]
 

It was lame when a disgruntled director disbanded BoB.

It was lamer when a hacker disbanded CVA.

The game mechanic needs fixing.

The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2009.10.29 13:31:00 - [85]
 

One additional thought in support of this.

At Fanfest this year, one of the big themes was social networking and building communities in EVE.

If CCP think there is value in those things then they have to adequately protect them. The action with CVA is absolutely correct. Now they need to provide mechanisms to make sure people can protect their communities without having to be ultra-paranoid with absolutely everyone.

Sure EVE is dark and sure trust has to mean something (which is to say, it only means something if it can be betrayed) but some things are just a nonsense on stilts.

If it is wrong to let one character kill 300 ships with one weapon blast, then it's simply stupid to let one character destroy an alliance and all the history and shared investment people have in it.

Cosmo

Zothike
Deep Core Mining Inc.

Posted - 2009.10.29 13:44:00 - [86]
 


Korvin
Gallente
Shadow Kingdom
Best Alliance
Posted - 2009.10.29 13:47:00 - [87]
 

right about time

Ian Mantell
Phoenix Industries
Saints Amongst Sinners
Posted - 2009.10.29 14:25:00 - [88]
 

Accounthacking is like ISK Selling. Destroying the fun in the game itself.

Haks'he Lirky
Durgarnir

Posted - 2009.10.29 14:41:00 - [89]
 


Kirith Kodachi
Ninveah Enterprises

Posted - 2009.10.29 14:43:00 - [90]
 

Should have been fixed last February.


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