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Kazang
Gallente
Wrecking Shots
Hostile Alliance
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:14:00 - [151]
 

Originally by: RedSplat
Edited by: RedSplat on 28/10/2009 20:07:15
....What?

Quote:
BULLETPROOF 50CENT

Greetings, star pilots.

I am known as bullet, just a small, relatively unknown member of a covert organization, created by and dedicated to the taking down of what we saw as the single largest evil in eve - CVA.

The plan was hatched well over 2 years ago. Our group of RL friends was backstabbed by a high ranking CVA official, whose name I decline to mention but many of you may already be guessing (if you know, you know. Our group, by nature a very wealthy group of industrialists, was going to help fund a mass CVA invasion of nearby areas. Of course, they would do it in the name of the Amarr Empire, and we were in it to gain a large amount of wealth. However, as talks continued, it was apparent that we were the fools in this barter. CVA had no plans of invading any region, and we were being strung along, by a few high ranking individuals. The rest of the Providence coalition knew nothing about it, I suspect even the CVA officials mostly were in the shadow. Our funds dissappeared into thin air, and our contacts simply would not so much as speak to us.

We thought for a moment to make this public, but what could we do? Nobody would believe a small, relatively unknown group of empire industrialists, over a trusted, powerful, well-known and seemingly well-liked coalition. If I said to you before this, that CVA would disband, would anyone have believed me? I think not. That is when we made our pledge. We would take down CVA. We lacked firepower, so we pledged that we would do it covertly, utilizing an advantage we had - we were all owners of multiple accounts, multiple alts, and our group was bound by what most pilots in eve do not have - RL friendship that goes back for years.

You will never be able to get back at us, as we have no corporate or alliance affiliation. You do not know who we are, or where we are. Any problems I caused with this character, with an aptly ridiculous name, to fit in with the "crowd", I apologize, I decided to use this "face" as it is nearly impossible to connect with anyone. You would be surprised how valuable we found connections to seemingly small, un-notable groups are.

So for 2 years, we worked various channels, various alliances, to come to today. Today, you see our product. Enjoy.



Smells like bull**** to me.

William Pierce
Caldari
Zor Industries
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:14:00 - [152]
 

If this was a hack.... please fix it CCP. CVA are honorable enemies, and I don't want them to fall because of some script kiddie hacker wannabe.

Taram Caldar
Caldari
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
Warped Aggression
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:14:00 - [153]
 

Edited by: Taram Caldar on 28/10/2009 20:14:41
Originally by: Casiella Truza
Originally by: RedSplat
Edited by: RedSplat on 28/10/2009 20:07:15
....What?

Quote:
BULLETPROOF 50CENT

Greetings, star pilots.

I am known as bullet, just a small, relatively unknown member of a covert organization, created by and dedicated to the taking down of what we saw as the single largest evil in eve - CVA.

...

So for 2 years, we worked various channels, various alliances, to come to today. Today, you see our product. Enjoy.



So infiltration or account compromise?


Sounds like infiltration to me. It doesn't take years to hack an account.

I can't believe CCP didn't fix this mechanic after the BoB nonsense.

krazyfish
Minmatar
Dinochrome Brigade
Slammer's Republic
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:14:00 - [154]
 

2 years .... and billions of isk spent.....the shadows finaly come to haunt dont they????
how do you like me now boys????
:)

Lykouleon
Gallente
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:15:00 - [155]
 

Originally by: Chirinako
I really, really DARE someone to attack providence right now. Go for it Cool


Already attacking

Kattalist
Amarr
Scorpus Legion
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:15:00 - [156]
 

Originally by: Xious
Sad to see it end like that. In saying that though, like one of the above posters stated, it is not an issue with CCP if you do not make your computer secure, and as such, I don't see why they would fix it.

I hope they do, it'd be wierd without you.


To be honest though, my main account got hacked about 3 weeks ago by a member from a fairly large alliance, and my computer is pretty damn secure. You can only secure a computer so much without unplugging it from the web...

Orree
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:16:00 - [157]
 

Originally by: Chaos Hellbreth
Edited by: Chaos Hellbreth on 28/10/2009 19:53:55
I personally dislike CVA cuz they took the nullsec out of nullsec... but thats just me. Pretty sure thats the main reason for most others too.

Although if this was caused by a hack, it needs to be reversed.


How is imposing (or attempting to impose) their will on a region of 0.0 space taking the "nullsec out of nullsec?"


Mr Sean
Gallente
KINGS OF EDEN
Sev3rance
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:17:00 - [158]
 

Edited by: Mr Sean on 28/10/2009 21:58:13

Dame Death
Minmatar
Core Impulse
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:18:00 - [159]
 

Edited by: Dame Death on 28/10/2009 20:23:29
Edited by: Dame Death on 28/10/2009 20:18:29
ooc here.

seriously bad luck guys especily if its a account hack i wud offer my help but we all know ud say **** off GL getting provi back to how it used to be and keeping my sights full of targets

Please do not evade the profanity filter. Zymurgist

Roemy Schneider
Minmatar
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:19:00 - [160]
 

iu doubt there'll be territorial warfare. just less jump bridges

Mah Kraah
Minmatar
Masuat'aa Matari
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:19:00 - [161]
 

if my alliance decide to take advantage of this i will start a vote for my corp to leave the alliance, if corp dont follow i will quit corp.
i am a director of masuataa matari (uk founding corp) and UK councilor, corp and alliance member since it exist ( 5 years in a coupple of weeks)

Casiella Truza
Minmatar
Ecliptic Rift
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:20:00 - [162]
 

Originally by: Mah Kraah
if my alliance decide to take advantage of this i will start a vote for my corp to leave the alliance, if corp dont follow i will quit corp.
i am a director of masuataa matari (uk founding corp) and UK councilor, corp and alliance member since it exist ( 5 years in a coupple of weeks)


Aren't you sort of jumping to conclusions here? Allegations of account hacking are not proof. If a spy or defector caused it, then it's legit.

De'Vadder
Minmatar
Dissonance Corp
BLACK-MARK
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:21:00 - [163]
 

Ridiculous that STILL one single account can take down an alliance. Why isnt there a damn vote needed?
I really hope this gets fixed somehow, Providence IS unique among 0.0 regions and probably the region most likely to what CCP have in mind with Dominion.

You can make it CVA, dont give up.

mamolian
Gallente
Cruoris Seraphim
Exalted.
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:21:00 - [164]
 

Matar victor!

Mashie Saldana
Minmatar
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:21:00 - [165]
 

I wonder if the character that registered the corp named Curatores Veritatis Alliance plan to give it back or not.

Chaos Hellbreth
Caldari
Drusus Mercenaries
Sylph Alliance
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:21:00 - [166]
 

Edited by: Chaos Hellbreth on 28/10/2009 20:24:12
Originally by: Orree


How is imposing (or attempting to impose) their will on a region of 0.0 space taking the "nullsec out of nullsec?"




Because they basically held space for no real reason at all. They openly invited others to come and exploit their own space. The whole purpose of holding space in EVE is to exploit it yourself... why hold it... for others to exploit? Just seemed like a poor use of space (albeit subpar space) to me.

Either way, I highly doubt that CCP will take action either way. If they were to reinstate CVA, they are going to have to rollback the servers, or do it VERY soon, as CVA's lack of alliance status is going to make it difficult to coordinate a response.

Graalum
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:23:00 - [167]
 

Originally by: Chaos Hellbreth
Originally by: Orree


How is imposing (or attempting to impose) their will on a region of 0.0 space taking the "nullsec out of nullsec?"




Because they basically held space for no real reason at all. They openly invited others to come and exploit their own space. The whole purpose of holding space in EVE is to exploit it yourself... why hold it... for others to exploit? Just seemed like a poor use of space (albeit subpar space) to me.


ok you are an idiot i get it now

Xious
Caldari
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:24:00 - [168]
 

Originally by: Kattalist
Originally by: Xious
Sad to see it end like that. In saying that though, like one of the above posters stated, it is not an issue with CCP if you do not make your computer secure, and as such, I don't see why they would fix it.

I hope they do, it'd be wierd without you.


To be honest though, my main account got hacked about 3 weeks ago by a member from a fairly large alliance, and my computer is pretty damn secure. You can only secure a computer so much without unplugging it from the web...


No, I completely agree, my point was just that CCP surely can't sort this stuff out for people, simply because the user inadvertantly made an error on their end, completely unrelated to anything that CCP, as a company, owns.

It'd be akin to someone buying a MacDonalds, walking out and then getting run over, because he didn't look before crossing the road.

Von Jupiter
Amarr
ORE-TECH
Sylph Alliance
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:25:00 - [169]
 

Originally by: Mah Kraah
if my alliance decide to take advantage of this i will start a vote for my corp to leave the alliance, if corp dont follow i will quit corp.
i am a director of masuataa matari (uk founding corp) and UK councilor, corp and alliance member since it exist ( 5 years in a coupple of weeks)

*Notes down*. Is attacking enough, cap fleet or does that only include capturing sovereignty?

Einheriar Glad
Minmatar
Purple Reign Entertainment
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:25:00 - [170]
 

A sad day.

- Glad

Orree
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:26:00 - [171]
 

Originally by: Chaos Hellbreth
Originally by: Orree


How is imposing (or attempting to impose) their will on a region of 0.0 space taking the "nullsec out of nullsec?"




Because they basically held space for no real reason at all. They openly invited others to come and exploit their own space. The whole purpose of holding space in EVE is to exploit it yourself... why hold it... for others to exploit? Just seemed like a poor use of space (albeit subpar space) to me.


In your opinion...I'm sure they feel their own reasons are far from "no real reason at all."

They may have been doing something different than most in nullsec, but I don't see how it's any less valid than what anyone else does with it. *shrug*



Doomed Predator
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:27:00 - [172]
 

Posting in an epic thread, will soon see how's Providence like after the fold and die in a fire doing it too.

Chaos Hellbreth
Caldari
Drusus Mercenaries
Sylph Alliance
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:27:00 - [173]
 

Edited by: Chaos Hellbreth on 28/10/2009 20:29:21
Originally by: Graalum


ok you are an idiot i get it now


I'm sorry that logic skipped a generation in your family.

Originally by: Mah Kraah

if my alliance decide to take advantage of this i will start a vote for my corp to leave the alliance, if corp dont follow i will quit corp.
i am a director of masuataa matari (uk founding corp) and UK councilor, corp and alliance member since it exist ( 5 years in a coupple of weeks)


You are aware that your alliance is already attacking CVA space... right?

Originally by: xious

In your opinion...I'm sure they feel their own reasons are far from "no real reason at all."

They may have been doing something different than most in nullsec, but I don't see how it's any less valid than what anyone else does with it. *shrug*


Right, in my opinion. I'm entitled to dislike them if they don't play the game the way I believe it should be played. I never stated that they sucked, that they worthless, etc. just that I didn't like them all that much.

Mr Sean
Gallente
KINGS OF EDEN
Sev3rance
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:28:00 - [174]
 

Edited by: Mr Sean on 28/10/2009 21:59:38

ovenproofjet
Caldari
Therapy.
The Fourth District
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:29:00 - [175]
 

Personally I'm fed up seeing alliances destroyed like this, CVA are great fun to shoot at and fly with and many will miss having them to shoot.

If you want to take someone out...grow some balls, buy some guns and shoot them. Like real men do.

Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:30:00 - [176]
 

Strange.

For doing even a tiny fart you need a 24h voting in every corp. But disbanding alliances can be done within a second.

When will CCP finally fix the lack of tools for alliance management?

Amarant'h
Amarr
Order of the Domain
The Polaris Syndicate
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:30:00 - [177]
 

It should be game, not illegal acts thru internet.

Is it going to be that soon people hacking in ISP's and making connections lag and crash when having war each other cap fleets? Hacking is crime, thats for sure. CCP should do something about these kind of situations. Ofcourse its pretty impossible to balance what things you should get involved and which not, but example these kind of hacking problems should have somekind of backing up system. Example 2week timer when dispanding a alliance or corp, ans should have a chance to cancel that kind of acts by CCP if the situation is really caused by hacker.

Zarak1 Kenpach1
Minmatar
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:31:00 - [178]
 

Edited by: Zarak1 Kenpach1 on 28/10/2009 20:32:49
blah blah blah reason this reason that. bottom line is the most worthless region in game under todays rules is technically one of the best come dominion. CVA had a shot of holding it all if they combined most of their in provi monkeys into their actual alliance.

And for those potential power mongerers out there. Providence currently has 37 outposts in it last time i checked.

Sucks to be you CVA.

Boomershoot
Caldari
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:32:00 - [179]
 

GMs notices?

DrMaddog
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2009.10.28 20:32:00 - [180]
 

Originally by: William Pierce
If this was a hack.... please fix it CCP. CVA are honorable enemies, and I don't want them to fall because of some script kiddie hacker wannabe.


to me this wannabe is something. He managed to complete what he set out to do.


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