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salva dore
Posted - 2009.10.27 18:16:00 - [1]
 

All macro-hunters are using cloak.
Also we have a lot of guys who cant live without cloak :)
Vagabong with cloak, drake with cloak - its great tactics but it should'nt be stuff for afk.

How to solve macro-ratting problem?
Well, its simple. "Not-covert" cloak should generate heat damage for high slots modules.
Small, very small damage. For example, it should take a hour or more to damage modules.
Cloak on raven or any ship will help to hide this ship, but it will not hide this ship forever. Log off or decloak on spot to repair, or use POS to be invulnerable.

What do you think?

LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
Posted - 2009.10.27 18:22:00 - [2]
 

I don't see any rational for why it shouldn't be possible to cloak in order to go AFK.

It creates the possibly best psychological effect on people. I think we should keep it.

AFK Cloaker
Amarr
Imperial Academy
Posted - 2009.10.27 18:24:00 - [3]
 


Neliel Soifon
Posted - 2009.10.27 18:27:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Neliel Soifon on 27/10/2009 18:27:39
Imo the cloak concept for not-bonused ships should change completely, some like this:

When activated, the cloaking device 'fire' a pulse that cloak your ship. The cloaking device use something like a dedicated battery, that depletes over time, let's say 15 minutes.
After 15 minutes the ship decloak and you must wait for the cloak 'capacitor' to recharge itself, then you can use it again.

This give you plenty of time while active playing, and stop the macroers and afkers.

Marcus Druallis
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2009.10.27 18:27:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: AFK Cloaker



OMG /Thread

lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis
THE SPACE P0LICE
Posted - 2009.10.27 18:30:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: AFK Cloaker



win!

Corduroy Rab
Chaos Reborn
Posted - 2009.10.27 18:34:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: AFK Cloaker




well done!

Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
Posted - 2009.10.27 18:37:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: salva dore
All macro-hunters are using cloak.
Also we have a lot of guys who cant live without cloak :)
Vagabong with cloak, drake with cloak - its great tactics but it should'nt be stuff for afk.

How to solve macro-ratting problem?
Well, its simple. "Not-covert" cloak should generate heat damage for high slots modules.
Small, very small damage. For example, it should take a hour or more to damage modules.
Cloak on raven or any ship will help to hide this ship, but it will not hide this ship forever. Log off or decloak on spot to repair, or use POS to be invulnerable.

What do you think?


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And that "macros use cloaks" argue is not proper way to get your point across.

wickedpheonix
Caldari
Guy Fawkes Trust Fund
31ST Reliables Division
Posted - 2009.10.27 18:58:00 - [9]
 

Changing cloaks to what you are suggesting will break them. The whole entire point is to disappear totally, completely, so long as you can keep running the cloak.

Originally by: AFK Cloaker



epic win \o/

Cymru2000
DOCS RUFF RIDERS
Vanguard Imperium
Posted - 2009.10.27 19:11:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: AFK Cloaker



OMG, now I can't go mine in this thread because of the damn cloaker

Ryhss
Caldari
The Excecutorans
Posted - 2009.10.27 19:13:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: LaVista Vista
I don't see any rational for why it shouldn't be possible to cloak in order to go AFK.

It creates the possibly best psychological effect on people. I think we should keep it.
I support this message.

Discrodia
Gallente
Symbiosis International
Moose Alliance
Posted - 2009.10.27 19:14:00 - [12]
 

OP has obviously never been in 0.0 getting scanned down and blobbed the instant you are detected undocked and uncloaked.

Sig Sour
Posted - 2009.10.27 19:19:00 - [13]
 

Want to stop macro ratters?

It is easy! Make 50% of small rats warp scramble. Problem solved.

malfoy
Posted - 2009.10.27 19:30:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: malfoy on 27/10/2009 19:31:36
Originally by: Sig Sour
Want to stop macro ratters?

It is easy! Make 50% of small rats warp scramble. Problem solved.


if you were funny i'd call you a troll.

edit:on second thoughts your a dev with a serious solution.

Rordan D'Kherr
Amarr
Posted - 2009.10.27 19:31:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Rordan D''Kherr on 27/10/2009 19:36:28
Originally by: AFK Cloaker



Pwned.

Originally by: salva dore
All macro-hunters are using cloak.
Also we have a lot of guys who cant live without cloak :) How to solve macro-ratting problem?


All macro miners use strip miners. All macro ratters use launchers and turrets. So how to fix something that is not a problem for EvE gameplay?

Emperor D'Hoffryn
EXTERMINATUS.
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2009.10.27 19:43:00 - [16]
 

nerfing cloaks will do nothing to address macro ratters, they will just return to logging off the moment someone enters local. In fact its better they try to use cloaks, because they cant cloak if a rat is targeting them, and belt rats that warp scram are very rare.

malfoy
Posted - 2009.10.27 19:44:00 - [17]
 

17 kmins till a real demo is released..........kill the zombies.

Aarin Wrath
Caldari
East Khanid Trading
Khanid Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2009.10.27 19:48:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: AFK Cloaker



Lols.

/thread is over. Shocked

OP: This go to the features and idea forum for stuff like this.

Eli Porter
Posted - 2009.10.27 19:54:00 - [19]
 

The good thing about AFK cloakers is that they encourage teamwork if you want to get rid of them. You want to have help in the system in case you get jumped on.

The only issue is that mining ships have such terrible buffer tanks, that you often can't reach them in time to help. So give Mining Barges/Exhumers a good 150 PG and that should solve it. Perhaps even an extra mid slot, but that might be pushing it.

Catherine Frasier
Posted - 2009.10.27 20:11:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: salva dore
Vagabong with cloak, drake with cloak - its great tactics but it should'nt be stuff for afk.
Why not?

Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2009.10.27 20:20:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: salva dore

What do you think?


That you should stop posting. Very Happy

Radix Salvilines
legion industries ltd
AAA Citizens
Posted - 2009.10.27 20:24:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: AFK Cloaker



oh sh*t this is funny Laughing

malfoy
Posted - 2009.10.27 20:27:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Eli Porter
The good thing about AFK cloakers is that they encourage teamwork if you want to get rid of them. You want to have help in the system in case you get jumped on.

The only issue is that mining ships have such terrible buffer tanks, that you often can't reach them in time to help. So give Mining Barges/Exhumers a good 150 PG and that should solve it. Perhaps even an extra mid slot, but that might be pushing it.



rofl your serious too. no wonder some guilds suck (i dont mean eve) and some others don't. if you want to save your miners make a freaking effort and stand guard.

Kweel Nakashyn
shadow and cloaking
Yggdrasill.
Posted - 2009.10.27 20:34:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: salva dore
All macro-hunters are using cloak.
Also we have a lot of guys who cant live without cloak :)
Vagabong with cloak, drake with cloak - its great tactics but it should'nt be stuff for afk.

How to solve macro-ratting problem?
Well, its simple. "Not-covert" cloak should generate heat damage for high slots modules.
Small, very small damage. For example, it should take a hour or more to damage modules.
Cloak on raven or any ship will help to hide this ship, but it will not hide this ship forever. Log off or decloak on spot to repair, or use POS to be invulnerable.

What do you think?

Agreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...

Drunk Driver
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2009.10.27 20:36:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: AFK Cloaker





HE SHOOTS!!!!

HE SCORES!!!!!


Laughing

123GuessWho
Posted - 2009.10.27 20:49:00 - [26]
 

Who dug up this old cow?

Cloak works fine, they wont hurt you in any way

Colonel Xaven
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2009.10.27 20:56:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: AFK Cloaker









Post of the year.

fuer0n
Posted - 2009.10.27 21:01:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: 123GuessWho
Who dug up this old cow?

Cloak works fine, they wont hurt you in any way


your not LB's mrs are you? Twisted Evil

Eli Porter
Posted - 2009.10.27 21:13:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: malfoy
Originally by: Eli Porter
The good thing about AFK cloakers is that they encourage teamwork if you want to get rid of them. You want to have help in the system in case you get jumped on.

The only issue is that mining ships have such terrible buffer tanks, that you often can't reach them in time to help. So give Mining Barges/Exhumers a good 150 PG and that should solve it. Perhaps even an extra mid slot, but that might be pushing it.



rofl your serious too. no wonder some guilds suck (i dont mean eve) and some others don't. if you want to save your miners make a freaking effort and stand guard.


If standing guard was worth it ISK wise then it would be done all the time. 2 accounts doing 1 account's worth of mining is just not worth it ISK wise, and is a terrible bore for the guard, which is what you don't want in a game.

Giving just a bit more time(over NO time) for help to arrive is a good idea, especially when Dominion comes and CCP wants to encourage more high sec miners into 0.0.

Mire Stoude
The Undesirables
Posted - 2009.10.27 21:14:00 - [30]
 

I have the right to cloak up whenever someone enters local! Sometimes I want to watch TV or a movie or something so it's nice having an option to cloak my raven and not have to worry about the pirates coming through. It is pretty funny when I see someone scanning for 10-15 minutes for me then leave disgruntled. Sometimes they call me a carebear or whatever, but I don't care. I don't think the cloaking mechanic should change. I don't want to get blown up.


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