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ShadowGod56
Posted - 2011.01.14 04:38:00 - [301]
 

i support the notion for Black Ops love

Hemmo Paskiainen
Gallente
Posted - 2011.01.17 22:40:00 - [302]
 

bump

Jamtech Lingo
NosWaffle
Nostradamus Effect
Posted - 2011.01.23 09:11:00 - [303]
 

Rolling Eyes

Froosh
Incidental Damage
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2011.01.24 22:41:00 - [304]
 

Exclamation

Ephemeron
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.01.24 23:19:00 - [305]
 

I'd fly Black Ops in roaming PvP if they added 100 m/s to base speed

just one of the many possibilities to make it desirable

Kelanoein
Native Freshfood

Posted - 2011.01.24 23:48:00 - [306]
 

Is this the annual Raise the Black Op's thread?

PC l0adletter
Posted - 2011.01.25 05:50:00 - [307]
 

It's been longer than 13 months, no?

Triple the range. Buff their tanks so people actually use them in combat instead of using them as mini-Titans.

How many more threads have to be posted about this?

I'm sick of begging CCP to fix their game while they waste my subscription dollars on vampires and console games.

Hemmo Paskiainen
Gallente
Posted - 2011.01.25 09:44:00 - [308]
 

Originally by: PC l0adletter

I'm sick of begging CCP to fix their game while they waste my subscription dollars on vampires and console games.


his is why im closing this topic when i havnt heart about ccp in a week if they are working on it or not. This subject is running for 14 months, exellent prove that ccp dont even listen to CSM and that needs to be propaganded in a shot amount of time... Twisted Evil

Feffri
Caldari
Kroll's Legion

Posted - 2011.01.28 01:57:00 - [309]
 

Edited by: Feffri on 28/01/2011 01:57:32
I support any buff to BO but I would suggest the domi hull used for sin and mega hull used for maurader be switched. Considering that domi is more pve and mega is more pvp. Plus guns are way better for bo role than drones. Main thing i would support would be allow covert clocking device on BO ships. For me the ability to warp while cloacked alone would make me more interested... or 50% price reduction. Secondary I support extended jump range and abilities being brought in line with their t1 counterparts which are about 1/10th the price. All other buffs I would consider gravy.


feff

ps c'mon ccp :)

Natalia Kovac
Minmatar
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2011.01.28 03:13:00 - [310]
 

They still need to be looked at.

Beck Thomson
San Joaquin Navy
US Alliance
Posted - 2011.01.29 22:40:00 - [311]
 

/signed

Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
Posted - 2011.01.31 00:47:00 - [312]
 

Bump for truth.

Fournone
Posted - 2011.01.31 03:00:00 - [313]
 

I don't care how, fix the black ops.

Selinate
Amarr
Posted - 2011.01.31 03:13:00 - [314]
 

I honestly think that a delayed/removed local would be the best way to increase need and use of black ops. I don't honestly think the point of a black ops is to be a direct PvP boat.

As it stands now, local pretty much kills any purpose of a ship like this imo, since if you can't get some other ship into the target system without being detected in order to pop a covert cyno without being detected, etc., and then jump n' gank, there's not really much point to it imo.

But then again, that's just my opinion.

Caius Sivaris
Dark Nexxus
S I L E N T.
Posted - 2011.02.02 10:26:00 - [315]
 

Originally by: Selinate
I honestly think that a delayed/removed local would be the best way to increase need and use of black ops. I don't honestly think the point of a black ops is to be a direct PvP boat.

As it stands now, local pretty much kills any purpose of a ship like this imo, since if you can't get some other ship into the target system without being detected in order to pop a covert cyno without being detected, etc., and then jump n' gank, there's not really much point to it imo.

But then again, that's just my opinion.


The point for the cyno is to be detected, aka baiting...

Tranke Givenjer
Posted - 2011.02.03 01:24:00 - [316]
 

/signed

Javelin6
Dirt Nap Squad
Posted - 2011.02.04 16:11:00 - [317]
 

Keeping hope alive.

Tiger's Spirit
Caldari
Posted - 2011.02.04 16:28:00 - [318]
 

Finally.

Dead horse not need new cloaking ship buff.
CCP Forget Black ops boost. Thx.

P.S.

Give cap usage for all cloak.

Absent Cloaker
Posted - 2011.02.08 19:36:00 - [319]
 

Maybe just maybe my faith will be rewarded...

Aerich e'Kieron
Posted - 2011.02.16 15:11:00 - [320]
 

+Support

Adonis Magnko
Gallente
LG Industries

Posted - 2011.02.19 01:16:00 - [321]
 

Support +1

MAPUHO4KA
Caldari
LG Industries
Posted - 2011.02.20 03:23:00 - [322]
 

Edited by: MAPUHO4KA on 20/02/2011 03:23:39
/signed

Darksith69
Posted - 2011.02.20 04:13:00 - [323]
 

Edited by: Darksith69 on 20/02/2011 04:14:24
I support

Lost Troll
Lethal Dosage.
Violent Society
Posted - 2011.02.20 19:53:00 - [324]
 

The issues with black ops battleships, is either every one wants to give them a huge jump range for bridging the blockade runners or an insane damage out put with covert cloaking module.

Nether of these options fit the roll that the BO BS were intended to fill, and that was support.

Base Changes to All

  • Have the Jump Portal Generation skill reduce isotope use by 10% per level on Covert Jump Portal Generator.

  • Give a base Jump range 4 light years.

  • Give all BO BS T2 resistances.

  • Give all the use of the Covert Cloaking Module.


Individual Ship Changes

Redeemer
  • Amarr Battleship Skill Bonus: 10% reduction in large energy turret capacitor use and 5% bonus to large energy turret rate of fire per level.

  • Black Ops Skill Bonus: 99% reduction in Warfare Link module CPU need. Can use 3 Warfare Link modules simultaneously Cloaked and -96% to -100% reduced CPU need for cloaking device per level.


Widow
  • Caldari Battleship Skill Bonus: 15% bonus to ECM Target Jammer strength per level, 20% bonus to ECM Target Jammer optimal and falloff range per level, 20% Bonus to ECM Burst Range per level.

  • Black Ops Skill Bonus: 99% reduction in Warfare Link module CPU need. Can use 3 Warfare Link modules simultaneously Cloaked and -96% to -100% reduced CPU need for cloaking device per level.


Sin
  • Gallente Battleship Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to large hybrid turret damage and 10% bonus to drone hit points and damage per skill level.

  • Black Ops Skill Bonus: 99% reduction in Warfare Link module CPU need. Can use 3 Warfare Link modules simultaneously Cloaked and -96% to -100% reduced CPU need for cloaking device per level.


Panther
  • Minmatar Battleship Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Large Projectile Turret Rate of Fire and 5% bonus to Siege and Cruise missile launcher Rate of Fire per level.

  • Black Ops Skill Bonus: 99% reduction in Warfare Link module CPU need. Can use 3 Warfare Link modules simultaneously Cloaked and -96% to -100% reduced CPU need for cloaking device per level.

William Loire
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.02.22 20:24:00 - [325]
 

Easy Band-aid: Why don't Black Ops just fall under Wormhole local rules.

I.E. They don't appear in local allowing them to act as logistics harass, not to mention Macro Scourge.

Ba'lur Rorrot
Posted - 2011.02.23 01:35:00 - [326]
 

they need polish. better jump range +4 ly(titans still have a job moving every thing else ever) whats the use being sneaky if you cant get there. and all should probably do ewar stuff and damage bumps. and the all around T2 stuff they all get.(better fitting and race resist)



*IMHO- they should give them cov op cloak, but with the above stuff they would be useful enough for now.


Sofaking Weetawded
Posted - 2011.02.28 21:49:00 - [327]
 

Edited by: Sofaking Weetawded on 28/02/2011 21:50:25
Originally by: Ryan Powers
Edited by: Ryan Powers on 22/11/2009 06:26:14
/signed.

I'm Caldari and even I don't want to fly a Widow. :[


When I watch Clear Skies it makes me want to buy a Widow. Then I wake up. :(

edit: supported for some kind of improvement. Not really sure what since I don't fly them yet (even though I have a character that can.)

Jade Knight07
Posted - 2011.03.01 06:53:00 - [328]
 

Closed...? Rolling Eyes

They really could use some help. Black ops ships could really use some help. Keep the thread alive someday they just might work on them. Wink

Hemmo Paskiainen
Gallente
Posted - 2011.03.04 16:52:00 - [329]
 

Originally by: Jade Knight07
Keep the thread alive someday they just might work on them. Wink



I did,... for 15 months... guess avatars and rat pew pew stuffs is better to upgrade than working spazeshipz in a spaceshipz game?

Marconus Orion
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2011.03.05 13:00:00 - [330]
 

CCP please for the love of all that is holy throw us a bone!

Maybe you are not sure what to do with black ops but please, throw us a bone and un-nerf the scan resolution, lock range, hit points and give them T2 resistances. No it is not the silver bullet to fix black ops but it is a step in the right direction. It has been almost a year and a half. Please.


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