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Posted - 2009.10.24 03:45:00 - [1]

Edited by: armsved on 24/10/2009 03:59:51
Edited by: armsved on 24/10/2009 03:46:58
Edited by: armsved on 24/10/2009 03:46:15
Hey everyone, 1st post, screw spelling! :)
I've got a few concerns regarding PvP.

I joined Eve 2 weeks ago, because its different and because its in mother****ing space. Im comming from WoW, where I was a pretty hardcore arena player. Hunter 2300+ rating at stormscale EU, so im a pretty dedicated player and player who wants to be in the top cus I need a big epeen or whatever.

Joining Eve
It is a ****ing great game tbh. simply due to how hardcore it is compared to any other game. Anyway I started of doing missions, got bored after 1 mission and went into trading 4 days ago (turned 4mil into 35 so far).

Regarding PvP.
Now I love PvP. Braindead NPC killing is just not enough. I've been out in low sec several times already in T1 frigates with T1 equipment. However I find myself and my friends looking for something to kill more often than killing something.
Now I've been to those hardcore PvP systems like amamake, but hell that isnt much better, try get a kill and 10 persons show up. Now I'd like some good PvP without having to leave my corp. This means FW and RvB is out of the question, or alteast RvB is (since when has WoW BG been fun?). Im just looking for some good options for PvP. I've been thinking about pirate corps. Sounds like fun as hell, but how much action does those guys really see? Also regarding solo PvP. I chose gallente cus I heard they were decent in solo PvP however, how the hell do you get solo PvP with everyone running around in fleets?

Anyway, point is, anyone got some good advice reagarding PvP, solo, fleet or corp? Im not gonna stay in this game if killing random NPC's for a "bounty is what you do ;)

thx all

Rock urSocksoff
Invaders Empire Wold
RED Citizens
Posted - 2009.10.24 03:58:00 - [2]

Originally by: armsved
Hunter 2300+ rating at stormscale EU,

the **** does that even mean

Posted - 2009.10.24 03:59:00 - [3]


Posted - 2009.10.24 05:09:00 - [4]

talk to these guys, or at the very least check out the pirate 101 thread the ceo does for newbies.

Lord Zekk
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District
Posted - 2009.10.24 05:36:00 - [5]

When you said WoW a little voice in my head yelled FLAME ON, but I kept reading and you redeemed yourself.

The hunt is a big part of pvp. Some people are better at finding prey than others. Some people by virtue of better skills and ships can engage a wider range of targets.

It's good you've found a way to make isk early in the game. That will go a long way in helping you with PVP.

Pirates are a really good way to learn how to pvp. Whatever you do, you will need help coz you just won't have the SP to solo stuff but that doesn't mean that you need to team up with a pro. A few noobs in cheap ships can easily **** up a more experienced player if they know what they're doing.

I think you might end up having to leave your corp. But if you don't want to, try fling with some pirates to learn the ropes. Look up The Tuskers. They live in Hev. They're good at what they do.

Take the Agony PVP basic course as well.

Don Pellegrino
Pod Liberation Authority
Posted - 2009.10.24 15:22:00 - [6]

Watch videos on scanning.

You MUST be good at scanning to succeed in solo pvp.
Skill points and gear all come last. Experience and scanner really make the difference.

Congrats, btw, you are really the kind of guy Eve needs. Dedicated and single-minded.

Have a look at this video: scanning

About Amamake:

It's a pirate hellhole, you could spend all day there and there's always stuff to scan down.
It's a relatively easy system to scan since it's less than 14 AUs across.
There's 2 huge clusters of planets,belts,stations so you need to be at either one or the other to effectively scan stuff.
Know the locals in Amamake, you can set your standings towards them to see what corp/alliance they're in.
The Faction Warfare guys won't attack you unless you're "flashy". (it means you've done something criminal in the last 15 minutes or have a security status under -4.5)
There's a lot of mission runners that are trying pvp in Rifters (cause theyve heard its the best pvp frigate) and people there to learn how to pvp, but also a lot of pirates that will slaughter you if they can catch you.
Amamake is a LOT of fun, I love that system, and yes, I often go solo there.
The Rifter is great, but you should also consider the Trasher: a lot more firepower and it requires the same skills (because it uses small guns). It's slower, though.
Basically, know who you're fighting and remember that Eve isnt about numbers in a fleet, it's about intel: know who you're fighting, know if the guy you're about to pirate has friends in local. Know how to fly your ship perfectly, figure out all the little tricks, learn from your mistakes.

Good luck in pvp, you're on the right track!

Lars Lodar
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
Posted - 2009.10.24 15:36:00 - [7]

Originally by: Don Pellegrino

About Amamake:


If you want to get into piracy, you should really check out the Python Academy. It's a month long corp that gives hands on instruction 5 times a week with pvp after each session. I know you prefer not to leave your corp but this is a good opportunity to learn the ropes and have fun.

It's 10 million for a month of instruction PLUS fitted frigates to use.

Posted - 2009.10.25 18:15:00 - [8]

Thx for the very good answers everyone, helped and will help alot Very Happy

Nareg Maxence
Posted - 2009.10.25 18:42:00 - [9]

Check out these guys.

Agony Unleashed

You can join their classes without having to join their corp. You are guaranteed an evening of fun PVP.

Chiyeung Lau
Posted - 2009.10.25 21:18:00 - [10]

If you're really interested in a life of PVP.
Maybe Mercenary Work is for you.
Check Out Noir. Mercenary Services
One of the top merc corps out there.
Go on their forums and apply for Noir. Academy, which is free and is currently open for recruitment.

Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2009.10.26 20:36:00 - [11]

unfortunately, sometimes it can take a bit too long to find a solo fight but they're there. you said you don't want to leave your current corp, but factional warfare really does increase the number of potential targets out there. scanning is a good idea too. never tried it in amamake; i'll have to give that a shot.

speaking of amamake, bookmark a spot (better yet, a few spots) 150-200km off the top belt there, sit there for a while, and watch what comes in. if a solo player warps in that you think you think you have a reasonable chance against, warp to him (if he's in the center of the belt or by a wreck you can warp to) or start flying towards him and see if he engages you. or just sit there and see who flies towards you. sometimes it's pretty quiet, but other times there's quite a bit of action there. and always be aware that even if you get a solo fight, your opponents corp mates may always fly in to help him. small fleet pvp is a lot of fun too.

a couple helpful guides pvp guides:

- (focuses on the rifter but there's good general info in it too)


Don Pellegrino
Pod Liberation Authority
Posted - 2009.10.26 20:46:00 - [12]

The only thing I disagree, SomebodyKickedMyDog, is the sit in the top belt in amamake part. You will just end up being probed down in a matter of seconds (people keep their probes in place so they can probe you down instantly). It's also the belt where the blobs fight each others. Trust me, you better be the one that warps on top of people than the one that gets warped to. Try to avoid the top belt unless you've got friends. Over 80% of the 1v1s in Amamake happen in other belts or at the planets.

Posted - 2009.10.27 18:44:00 - [13]

Must say, this is a good good community Very Happy All helping a lot, but just staying in the corp for now. There's some RL friends and the leaders/other members are really helpful.

On another note. As I wrote I had trained gallente up, but im not sure about them. Got drone interfacing to IV, but hell that's good for any race.
Caldari looks like they have a lot more diversity with snipers, close up and EWar (that **** looks fun) ships(not sure about what terms thats used). Even thou I've only heard bad about missile system, I'd imagine its just bad players that cant adjust to the travel time. Anyway how is caldari for solo, gang and fleet? And if caldari is worse than other races is it such a big handicap that I shouldnt take that direction?

Don Pellegrino
Pod Liberation Authority
Posted - 2009.10.27 19:54:00 - [14]

Most of the time, Caldari ships are better suited for gang work.

They really shine in small/medium gangs where their usually solid tanks and ability to shoot any kind of target is used at its best. Their ECM ships make a HUGE difference in smaller gangs: they often give you the upper hand against larger fleets. Most heavy assault ship (HAC) gangs are shield tanked, so a basilisk is well suited in those situations. Missiles do okay-ish damage and Heavy Assault Missiles (HAMs) can kill any kind of target (by using the right kind of missiles. 4 damage types and 3 types of HAMs for different situations: faction and T2s). As an interceptor pilot, I can tell you that HAMs BURN, they can hit me while I'm orbiting at 5 k/s with a tiny signature radius. A gank drake with web and warp disruptor is awesome for solo and so are the harpy and rook (very underrated).

Downsides are:

- Damage is reduced by speed (not that much of an issue because you never miss)
- You need your med slots for tanking so it's hard to fit tackle or ewar unless you don't tank your ship (or sit at 80k like a falcon).
- Almost all remote rep (RR) battleship gangs are going to be armor tanked and unlike the Minmatar ships, Caldari have no armor tanking battleships.

Finally, Caldari have a couple of Hybrid (same guns as Gallente) ships.
Most of them aren't so good, but they're not bad either.
The Ferox can be a real threat when flown right and is incredibly underrated (a lot of people are going to engage you, going for an "easy kill"). The Eagle can be fitted for various situations and can even snipe up to 249k! At 50k, it does pretty good damage.

Anyway, Caldari have a lot of diversity, but their usual hard time to fit tackle modules cripples them.


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