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Ethan Marcus
Posted - 2009.10.23 19:33:00 - [1]
 

Greetings,

I've only been playing EVE for 6 days so I don't have a lot of skills but I did manage to get a free Merlin during a mission. After that following the suggestions of more experienced players in another post I went with this setup:

Power Diagnostic System I
Power Diagnostic System I

Monopropellant I Hydrazine Boosters
Small Shield Booster I
Heat Dissipation Amplifier I
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier I

75mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon, Thorium Charge S
75mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon, Thorium Charge S
'Malkuth' Standard Missile Launcher I, Bloodclaw Light Missile
'Malkuth' Standard Missile Launcher I, Bloodclaw Light Missile


I was also given some recommendations for Merlin ECM setup which I thought was interesting.


My questions are this, is the Merlin the best frigate for Faction Warfare as a 1 week old player? Am I going in the right direction here? I really enjoy the DPS side of things.

Another thing is where do I go after frigates? I'm thinking a cruiser, maybe battlecruiser for survivability? I'm also fascinated by what I read on the heavy interdictor .... so many decisions!


Regards,

Ethan Marcus



Dretzle Omega
Caldari
Global Economy Experts
Posted - 2009.10.23 19:44:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Dretzle Omega on 23/10/2009 19:44:47
"Basic" path is frigate > cruiser > battlecruiser > battleship. People tend to skip destroyers altogether. Don't know if that is the case for faction warfare.

But that doesn't have to be you. Some specialize in frigates and fly interceptors, assault frigates, and maybe covert ops/stealth bomber ships.

A lot of it depends on what you want to do. For now, whether you want to stick with the Merlin kind of depends on what you want to train for. I personally like missiles, so when I fly a T1 frigate I fly the kestrel, as I can fit a full rack of 4 missile launchers on there.

If you train for missiles and guns the merlin might be okay.

EDIT: Oh, and if you want a frigate for ECM, generally, as Caldari, you'd pick the griffin, due to it's ECM bonuses.

Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
Posted - 2009.10.23 21:52:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Ethan Marcus
After that following the suggestions of more experienced players in another post I went with this setup:

Power Diagnostic System I
Power Diagnostic System I

Monopropellant I Hydrazine Boosters
Small Shield Booster I
Heat Dissipation Amplifier I
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier I

75mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon, Thorium Charge S
75mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon, Thorium Charge S
'Malkuth' Standard Missile Launcher I, Bloodclaw Light Missile
'Malkuth' Standard Missile Launcher I, Bloodclaw Light Missile


Are you sure you want a shield booster on there and not an extender? I guess it depends on the purpose but it would be pretty non-traditional for either PvP or PvE on a Merlin. The loss of cap stability from a booster on a small shield-tanked ship just isn't worth it most of the time.

You might try something like this:

[Merlin, low skill merlin]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Basic Damage Control

Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
Invulnerability Field I
F-b10 Nominal Capacitor Regenerator

75mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge S
75mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge S
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Gremlin Rocket
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Gremlin Rocket

[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]

I wouldn't, and I think I'm not alone, take a Merlin into PvP unless you really know what you're doing but for PvE this should work out well enough. Swap the invul for a specific hardener if you'd like.

Originally by: Ethan Marcus
I was also given some recommendations for Merlin ECM setup which I thought was interesting.


Don't do it. Use a Griffin. That is, if you understand the term "ECM" the way it was used. If you mean tackle in PvP, well, that's something different and I think Merlin could be alright at it.

Originally by: Ethan Marcus
My questions are this, is the Merlin the best frigate for Faction Warfare as a 1 week old player? Am I going in the right direction here? I really enjoy the DPS side of things.

Another thing is where do I go after frigates? I'm thinking a cruiser, maybe battlecruiser for survivability? I'm also fascinated by what I read on the heavy interdictor .... so many decisions!


I think this has been covered already but just in case:

  • As a new player, destroyers are death traps in PvP and not quite all they could be in PvE. Skip them for now.

  • For PvE, especially early on, it's hard to beat a Caracal. Vexor will do it but I'm assuming that you're sticking with Caldari for now so that's not an option.

  • The next PvE step from there would be a Drake. No question on that one.

  • For PvP, focus on flying frigates well (Kestrel is a good get for Caldari; Rifter is still a better deal overall) and getting fitting and support skills up.
  • When you want to move up the PvP chain you have lots of choices to make including T2 frigates (AF, inty, or EAS; covops and bombers are more specialized) or cruisers (and at this point you should be able to fly a decent Caracl.

  • Going up the chain from there requires more choices but hopefully by then you know more about what each one means and can ask more specific questions about where you want to go/be.


Oh, and you'll hear this elsewhere but it stands repeating early and often: don't fly what you can't afford to lose. This holds doubly true for PvP where the standard is more like "consider every ship you undock lost and every time you dock it a profit".

Hope that helps a bit and wasn't all too rambly.


 

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