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Nishachara
True Enlightenment
Posted - 2009.10.24 13:45:00 - [31]
 

Edited by: Nishachara on 24/10/2009 13:46:36
Hi...
Great guide witch inspired me to train for a bomber :D

I am a rather young pilot at the point of training where a lot of possibilities for t2 ship training open up for me...
So among HIC/HAC(I dont really need vaga just yet)/bomber path to train i am considering to train for a bomber :D

But i have a dillema so i am asking this question...
My ammar ana minmatar frigate skills are both on lv4 so witch bomber to train for ?
From posts in this thread i figured out the differences (also tried some eft fitting for myself)adn still i can not decide :P

So a brief run down of my stile of play :D
I mostly fly minmatar and i just recently started experimenting with speed tanking and nano ships,
and imao i still lack the skills to fly them (RL piloting skills not ingame :D), so i am practicing from time to time that way of flying and piloting with my friends ...

So the dilema is: should i train for a hound(speed,exp damage(nice against armor tank ships and also some shield tank imao coz in the end(after the invus/rigs and other stuff) exp resist on shield tank tends to be the lowest...)and with hound i dont know colud i use speed in my advantage correctly.
Or should i train for a purifier(EM damage/i would problably use it with MSE..)in witch i would get maybe more survivability...

So what do you think?

and again great guide, i will probably try these advices out in a month or so time :D

Deva Blackfire
Viziam
Posted - 2009.10.24 17:11:00 - [32]
 

Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 24/10/2009 17:12:03
Go minmatar. You might have some problems vs ravens (explo is racial - but you can always bring EM bombs) but at least you get decent ceptors and good AFs. Or even better get both - it takes like a week to get one to lv5 so it shouldnt be a big problem.

Fitting wise both hound and purifier are VERY similiar. Wheras hound needs MAPC (or ancillary router) purifier sometimes needs co-proc (on the hardest fitting setups). On lighter fits (like mwd + injector) both should fit without a problem.

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2009.10.24 19:44:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 24/10/2009 17:12:03
Go minmatar. You might have some problems vs ravens (explo is racial - but you can always bring EM bombs) but at least you get decent ceptors and good AFs. Or even better get both - it takes like a week to get one to lv5 so it shouldnt be a big problem.

Fitting wise both hound and purifier are VERY similiar. Wheras hound needs MAPC (or ancillary router) purifier sometimes needs co-proc (on the hardest fitting setups). On lighter fits (like mwd + injector) both should fit without a problem.


considering shield upgrades 5, and other fitting skills at 5, both the purifier and the hound only need a MAPC to go for a MSE+mwd combo (hound needs the very least a K-exhaust if you want to slam a bomb launcher there, when going for T2 launchers).

fitting a point in these setups is quite impossible, unless, that is, if you go for arbalests, altho I haven't tested it yet.

Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2009.10.24 19:58:00 - [34]
 

As a bomber pilot, I do not endorse this product and/or service.

You can kill industrials..yeah...SB is a great indy hunting ship, but you don't need a whole guide to explain that.

Aside from indies, your guide relies on the idea that the battleships you're fighting against a solo battleship with no light drones. How often are you going to actually run into a situation like this?

Better to have an Arazu/Rapier/Falcon friend.

rubico1337
Caldari
Mnemonic Enterprises
Posted - 2009.10.25 03:26:00 - [35]
 

Edited by: rubico1337 on 25/10/2009 03:26:52
Originally by: Kahega Amielden
As a bomber pilot, I do not endorse this product and/or service.

You can kill industrials..yeah...SB is a great indy hunting ship, but you don't need a whole guide to explain that.

Aside from indies, your guide relies on the idea that the battleships you're fighting against a solo battleship with no light drones. How often are you going to actually run into a situation like this?

Better to have an Arazu/Rapier/Falcon friend.


hit the nail on the head. SBs shine in gang work with ewar in the mids. they are paper thin.

a point on a stealthbomber? LOL

here is a sane fit:

[Hound, hound 1 BCU arbalest]
Ballistic Control System II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
1MN MicroWarpdrive II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Bomb Launcher I, Shrapnel Bomb
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo

Ancillary Current Router I
Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I


Valadeya uthanaras
GK inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.10.26 01:28:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Kahega Amielden
As a bomber pilot, I do not endorse this product and/or service.

Aside from indies, your guide relies on the idea that the battleships you're fighting against a solo battleship with no light drones. How often are you going to actually run into a situation like this?




So far happened 69th time for battleship to myself, and a lot to my corpmate too ...

And even with small drone, its still possible to gank target EVEN before they have you locked, i just dont recommand it to newer user.

Small drone may seem like a no brainer to a pvper, but its not so much for a pve person.

When you solo, you have 20x more chance of finding a solo pve battleship than a pvp one (had like 3 of those so far, and those were mega .. with a set of ogre II and relying on heavy neut to kill small target)




Terminus Vindictus
Caldari
Posted - 2009.10.26 02:26:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Kahega Amielden

Aside from indies, your guide relies on the idea that the battleships you're fighting against a solo battleship with no light drones. How often are you going to actually run into a situation like this?



The advantage for a solo SB pilot is that they can dictate the engagement. While it may not happen often, it will happen if you look hard enough for a solo ship that's either ratting, or overconfident in camping a gate, etc. I bet you in certain regions you can find at least a couple such targets within the course of a couple of hours of checking systems.

shyla stylez
Posted - 2009.10.26 03:21:00 - [38]
 

Nice guide Vala....and just confirming, you are a major pain out in fountain :-)

A couple of quick questions on bombs. I've read somewhere that a bomb can be killed by a smartbomb. Have you ever seen this done & is there a trick to the timing?

Valadeya uthanaras
GK inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.10.26 13:19:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: shyla stylez
Nice guide Vala....and just confirming, you are a major pain out in fountain :-)

A couple of quick questions on bombs. I've read somewhere that a bomb can be killed by a smartbomb. Have you ever seen this done & is there a trick to the timing?


It is possible but very hard, because of the timing and the blast radius of the bomb. To my knowledge , you would need at least 2 smartbomb hitting it in a 0.5 sec window (they travel 3k/s) if on the landing point, and a 2 sec window when you smarties during the bomb travel ( aka just after to up to 6 sec after launch)

The only other problem is the smartbomb damage type, if you use smartbomb of the same damage type of the bomb..... you can forget about destroying it

Kilmatar
Minmatar
GK inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.10.26 22:23:00 - [40]
 

Edited by: Kilmatar on 26/10/2009 22:23:37
Originally by: Captain Tardbar
Thanks for the guide. My new set of training time is going to be to fly a manticore.


im sorry to say it captain as i do like the caldari ships alot but imo and a few others i know Manticore suck, but they have their uses in fleet battles ofc since they have more mids same with the nemesis. i love my purifier and hound and all the training ive gotten by vala here, but im nowhere near vala's point of soloism, i have a few solo kills in a bomber but im still very chicken about that part Laughing


as for the MSE + MWD fit it is possible to fit it perfectlly with just 2 small ACR rig's on a hound and purifier.


Edit: nice guide Vala=) <3

Valadeya uthanaras
GK inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.10.28 12:10:00 - [41]
 

thx kilmatar

here a little update:

for those who would like to have a convo for more precise question, or any other thing concerning bomber, dont hesitate to send me a eve-mail. Sadly, some of my target took the habit of having multiple people convoing me trying to get me either off a potential kill or to give themselve the opportunity to kill me, therefore I have auto-reject on all the time.

I will answer to most eve-mail as soon as possible, but you gonna have to give me 1 day or 2 (I might show online but I am AFK in most cases)

Captain Tardbar
State Protectorate
Posted - 2009.11.03 17:07:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Valadeya uthanaras
thx kilmatar

here a little update:

for those who would like to have a convo for more precise question, or any other thing concerning bomber, dont hesitate to send me a eve-mail. Sadly, some of my target took the habit of having multiple people convoing me trying to get me either off a potential kill or to give themselve the opportunity to kill me, therefore I have auto-reject on all the time.

I will answer to most eve-mail as soon as possible, but you gonna have to give me 1 day or 2 (I might show online but I am AFK in most cases)


I probably should eve mail you but what is the viability with bombs in high population areas.

Even though it is going to be in low sec, FW WT tend to have neut targets hanging around near gates.

Is shooting bombs at gate campers going to mess things up as I might hit the gate and the gate guns in the process?

Sir Fourhead
Republic Military School
Posted - 2009.11.03 17:17:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Captain Tardbar
Originally by: Valadeya uthanaras
thx kilmatar

here a little update:

for those who would like to have a convo for more precise question, or any other thing concerning bomber, dont hesitate to send me a eve-mail. Sadly, some of my target took the habit of having multiple people convoing me trying to get me either off a potential kill or to give themselve the opportunity to kill me, therefore I have auto-reject on all the time.

I will answer to most eve-mail as soon as possible, but you gonna have to give me 1 day or 2 (I might show online but I am AFK in most cases)


I probably should eve mail you but what is the viability with bombs in high population areas.

Even though it is going to be in low sec, FW WT tend to have neut targets hanging around near gates.

Is shooting bombs at gate campers going to mess things up as I might hit the gate and the gate guns in the process?


bombs in 0.0 only bolp

Miriyana
Gallente
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2009.11.03 18:07:00 - [44]
 

Valadeya...the deadliest cutie pie in space.

Valadeya uthanaras
GK inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.11.03 18:17:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Miriyana
Valadeya...the deadliest cutie pie in space.


hehe Very Happy

To answer the question, sadly, as someone mentionned, bomb can only be used in 0.0
but they can be used for the same purpose. While bombing a gate with lots of people on it, while you probably wont kill anything with a single bomb beside mwd frigate which is possible but unlikly. But if in gang , you will indeed mess stuff up for your target, and generate panic to those not familliar with it.


I have seen and participated in operation where 2-3 bomb made 20+ ships of a 30 man jumps back trought a gate, kill 4-5 people in the process with the bombs, but mainly, leaving behind 4-5 battleship and other straglers and the like to be easely dealt with by a extremly smaller gang (6-7 ppl)

So to summarize, if in low-sec you cannot use bomb sadly, but yo can upgrade launcher and ballistic control in exchange, for soloing its a lot less interresting, but its still possible to kill target Twisted Evil

baltec1
Posted - 2009.11.04 11:32:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Kahega Amielden


Aside from indies, your guide relies on the idea that the battleships you're fighting against a solo battleship with no light drones. How often are you going to actually run into a situation like this?




More often than you think.

[Purifier, watercooler]
Ballistic Control System II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Caldari Navy Warp Disruptor
Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 75
Coreli C-Type 1MN MicroWarpdrive

'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Bomb Launcher I, Electron Bomb
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Bay Loading Accelerator I
[empty rig slot]

Its a very very tight squeeze and will need missile launcher rigs at level V unless I go for a republic or domination disruptor however I will need to look up how much they cost. With one of those though I could fill that empty rig slot so I wonder if a Warhead Calefaction Catalyst would be best used as the policarb gives next to no speed improvement.


Deva Blackfire
Viziam
Posted - 2009.11.04 11:48:00 - [47]
 

If you have spare grid (and only looking at fit you should have some) you might want to try gistii MWD. It uses less cpu but more grid than coreli.

baltec1
Posted - 2009.11.04 12:03:00 - [48]
 

[Purifier, Watercooler]
Ballistic Control System II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Faint Warp Disruptor I
Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 75
Gistii B-Type 1MN MicroWarpdrive

'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Bomb Launcher I, Electron Bomb
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Bay Loading Accelerator I
Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I

Needs to have launcher rigging to level IV and is again a tight fit but I can bare to lose of of these and not take an emo rageLaughing

Valadeya uthanaras
GK inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.11.04 13:21:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: baltec1
[Purifier, Watercooler]
Ballistic Control System II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Faint Warp Disruptor I
Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 75
Gistii B-Type 1MN MicroWarpdrive

'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Bomb Launcher I, Electron Bomb
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Bay Loading Accelerator I
Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I

Needs to have launcher rigging to level IV and is again a tight fit but I can bare to lose of of these and not take an emo rageLaughing


Pretty much a small modification of my fit, posted on the previous thread. I prefer to use A t2 warp disruptor, but you might want to explore the possibility to use a dread guristas warp disruptor.

The fun thing with those is the overheated range, that allow for maximal orbit speed and also, to catch stuff more often. I doubt 2 launcher rig would fit, but 1 launcher rig + 1 polycarb seem to be a good compromise for 4+ km range to disruption :)

baltec1
Posted - 2009.11.04 13:38:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Valadeya uthanaras


Pretty much a small modification of my fit, posted on the previous thread. I prefer to use A t2 warp disruptor, but you might want to explore the possibility to use a dread guristas warp disruptor.

The fun thing with those is the overheated range, that allow for maximal orbit speed and also, to catch stuff more often. I doubt 2 launcher rig would fit, but 1 launcher rig + 1 polycarb seem to be a good compromise for 4+ km range to disruption :)


Try as I might, I just cant get a poly carb and a bigger disruptor to fit plus the poly will only give an ever so slight boost to the speed so its just not worth it. I could drop the Warhead Calefaction Catalyst and fit that point for a modest drop in firepower which is what I might do but I am tempted to give the above a go first to see if it works. If not then there is always plan B and a better disruptor.

Aphoticus
Posted - 2009.11.04 18:46:00 - [51]
 

I would fit with Light Missile II's for Solo work...

But then what do I know?!?

Grarr Bexx
Posted - 2009.11.04 20:35:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Aphoticus
I would fit with Light Missile II's for Solo work...

But then what do I know?!?


Nothing at all, apparently, if you're serious with that comment.

adriaans
Amarr
Ankaa.
Nair Al-Zaurak
Posted - 2009.11.04 23:34:00 - [53]
 

how would using the bomb to pop the drones work? (assuming the target has them somewhere they can be bombed) (ps. /me has never flied bombers Laughing although this seems like fun to try)

Valadeya uthanaras
GK inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.11.05 03:28:00 - [54]
 

its possible, but unlikly to pop drone with a single bomb ( need some specific circomstance to happen), and it will rarely to never affect small drone because of their extremly low sig radius

Its possible to pop a few drone, but I wouldnt recommand to start any fight on the assumption that the "initial bomb" will pop drone out of the way, so if the drone you see are drone you are unlikly to be able to handle, for say a set of warrior II in space, I would be double carefull before engaging, and would do so in a pattern that would maximize the damage output of my ship and minimize my sig, so I can kill said target before he can even lock me (its possible )

Valadeya

quygen
Minmatar
Acting Neutral
Posted - 2009.11.06 11:22:00 - [55]
 

You speak about the Low-grade Halo implants for all the obvious reasons.

- But what do you think about Low-grade Snake? will it be useful, will it improve your survivability? Better than a Halo set, or is being targeted slower more important than speed in this case?
-> If being targeted slower is important, is it useful to only start MWD when being targeted?

- And can you explain me why you choose a hound above all others? just because of the damage type? or is it CPU/PG or the 2 speed mods in the low (snakes?)

Thanks for your insight!

Q


Valadeya uthanaras
GK inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.11.06 13:40:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: quygen
You speak about the Low-grade Halo implants for all the obvious reasons.

- But what do you think about Low-grade Snake? will it be useful, will it improve your survivability? Better than a Halo set, or is being targeted slower more important than speed in this case?
-> If being targeted slower is important, is it useful to only start MWD when being targeted?




I gonna be honest with you, this is really hard to answer because its highly circumstancial,:

Low grade snake, in most situation, will be better than low grade halo, becuase the decesive factor with this setup is speed, the more speed, the more evasivness.

It will aslo contribute to reducing the incoming damage by a fair margin, because of the velocity factor in most damage calculation(may it be missile or tracking)

The main difference is that you trade a part of damage reduction from the halo to an added speed: while you boost speed by a good margin, it will not give a damage reduction similar to the 20 ish% reduction to signature radius because its hilgy dependant on the speed you are moving at any given time.

FMwd when targeted is kind of the explaination of that principle, while I recommand that you start mwding to all beginner as prescribe in the initial part of the guide, there is indeed target that you can hold on the mwd to maximise the targeting delay of the target, as therefore you "tank" by not alowing the target to lock you.

Its just that agasint some target, like the armageddon, you need to get to maximal velocity fast to evade the pulse laser shots that gonna come as soon as you are targeted(and that hurt real bad)

the hound as bomber of choice for soloing is for several reason:

ArrowHighest base velocity and agility are extremly usefull
Arrowthe powergrid/cpu output are just perfect to squeeze the fit
Arrowthe damage type is among the best (thermal and kinetic being simply bad for soloing)
Arrow slot layout is perfect, because it aim toward maximisation of efficiency, including the 2 speed mods in the lows, high overall resist in the base sheild...

to a small extent the 2nd best would be, in my opinion, the purifier, its jsut not as good as the hound in the speed/agility department, but it got same layout, more cargo space, good damage type, and slighty better built in tank

SO to conclude, snake would be a nice addition, but it would have would improve overall performance by only a slight margin over the halo .... but the halo are dirt cheap ... hence the preference YARRRR!!

quygen
Minmatar
Acting Neutral
Posted - 2009.11.06 14:32:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Valadeya uthanaras
Its just that agasint some target, like the armageddon, you need to get to maximal velocity fast to evade the pulse laser shots that gonna come as soon as you are targeted(and that hurt real bad)

the hound as bomber of choice for soloing is for several reason:

ArrowHighest base velocity and agility are extremly usefull
Arrowthe powergrid/cpu output are just perfect to squeeze the fit
Arrowthe damage type is among the best (thermal and kinetic being simply bad for soloing)
Arrow slot layout is perfect, because it aim toward maximisation of efficiency, including the 2 speed mods in the lows, high overall resist in the base sheild...

to a small extent the 2nd best would be, in my opinion, the purifier, its jsut not as good as the hound in the speed/agility department, but it got same layout, more cargo space, good damage type, and slighty better built in tank

SO to conclude, snake would be a nice addition, but it would have would improve overall performance by only a slight margin over the halo .... but the halo are dirt cheap ... hence the preference YARRRR!!


Ah, didn't know the Halo's where that cheap (will check when i get on-line)

On the Hound I can understand Speed and have an CPU/PG collision on all the others indeed, the Nemisis is Awful, teethgrinding, when it comes to fitting. Didn't look at resist as it is all about 1,5k EHP anyways Razz

You said that Them and Kin are the worst damagetype's I just somewhat agree, might you not say that you should prefer on damage off/par with the type of damage the rats in the region (you hunt in) do? that way you might have some advantage taking out lonely ratters right?

Also found some squeeze fit for a 4 med SB. While taking down speed a bit, it does have some real handy room for some E-war. Making your chances in a 1vs1 quite a fair bit higher in terms of survivability.

I will go EFT warrior again when I get to my own PC, I seem to have missed the DG Warp disruptor. I was looking at RF/Domination for improved range/CPU but they where just as expensive as the rest of the bomber.

Also what is your best way to escape a bubble camp? Just hit MWD and go? I haven't looked up Sig.raduis tbh. so don't know how fast your targeted. Will look that up soon.

Also, when being in a group of SB (2-6) will you change you thought on RSD being useful (range scripts)? How many does it take to be effective? Or should a group prefer a mix of E-war?

Please feel free to comment, I'm happy with your shared experience.
Q

Valadeya uthanaras
GK inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.11.06 15:46:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: quygen

Ah, didn't know the Halo's where that cheap (will check when i get on-line)


A full low grade set cost me like 150mil last time ugh

Originally by: quygen

You said that Them and Kin are the worst damagetype's I just somewhat agree, might you not say that you should prefer on damage off/par with the type of damage the rats in the region (you hunt in) do? that way you might have some advantage taking out lonely ratters right?



Yeah, kind of what i wanted to express. Always better to use damage type that npc are the least likely to use in the region where you are .... and with 80% of the region npc doing either kinetic or thermal, with their awfull slot layout, and horribe fitting, manticore and nemesis are the worst for solo-pvp

Originally by: quygen

Also found some squeeze fit for a 4 med SB. While taking down speed a bit, it does have some real handy room for some E-war. Making your chances in a 1vs1 quite a fair bit higher in terms of survivability.



Sadly this doesnt really aply in solo pew, mainly because 1 ewar slot wont do much agaisnt 95% of the targe:
Arrowdamp with range script is straight useless (under 24k to point)
Arrowdamp with lock speed just delay further the targeting at expense of a lot of speed tank
Arrowecm is chance based and very unreilable with only 1 fittted
ArrowAnd painter/extender are good choice, but not as usefull as the full speed of the 3 mid/3 low ... for soloing

Originally by: quygen

I will go EFT warrior again when I get to my own PC, I seem to have missed the DG Warp disruptor. I was looking at RF/Domination for improved range/CPU but they where just as expensive as the rest of the bomber.



They are really cheap , and are like t2 in term of range, only using 4 cpu less

Originally by: quygen

Also what is your best way to escape a bubble camp? Just hit MWD and go? I haven't looked up Sig.raduis tbh. so don't know how fast your targeted. Will look that up soon.



Hit mwd then immediatly cloak after it, you will get a full cycle of cloaked mwding at 2.7km/s, more than enought to escape most bubblecmap (cloaking doesnt shut down mwd immediatly, it let it finish its cycle)YARRRR!!YARRRR!!

Originally by: quygen

Also, when being in a group of SB (2-6) will you change you thought on RSD being useful (range scripts)? How many does it take to be effective? Or should a group prefer a mix of E-war?



In gang, I would immediatly have 1 SB pilot switch to an arazu with
bonused damp and long range point, pack some sb with painters instead of point, and keep a few bombers with point ( kind of use them like interceptor with big damage but less speed)

fivetide humidyear
Gallente
Fool Mental Junket
Posted - 2009.11.06 15:53:00 - [59]
 

Edited by: fivetide humidyear on 06/11/2009 15:54:07
excellent guide. I may have to train up matari frigate 5 in the near future.

One thing i've found useful to do when out either as recon for a gang or solo(ish) in a cov ops and i'm on a gun based target is to look at the target and work out what guns are fitted and how many vs slot layout. it doesn't take long to work out what guns look ilke especially t1 v t2 and thus the ammo options open. and it may well alter your tactics depending on what you see.

Terminus Vindictus
Caldari
Posted - 2009.11.06 16:02:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Valadeya uthanaras

Arrowdamp with lock speed just delay further the targeting at expense of a lot of speed tank



Wouldn't speed locking be a form of tanking on its own? I've been playing around with different fittings, and taking them out to try, and one of them has a speed lock damp on it with a damp enhancement rig with the disruptor instead of the cap booster. Uncloak at 23, launch bomb, point and damp, then start the torp barrage while keeping him from locking you. Start speed-tanking him once he has you locked.


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