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Aurican Tetro
The Accursed
Posted - 2009.10.27 05:26:00 - [151]
 

I thought the average IQ of the EVE community was above average. Then I read the comments in this thread. On a positive note, nice work OP.

/facepalm

Omara Otawan
Posted - 2009.10.27 06:05:00 - [152]
 

Originally by: Aurican Tetro
I thought the average IQ of the EVE community was above average. Then I read the comments in this thread. On a positive note, nice work OP.

/facepalm


You dont get out much, do you?

Given what else goes through these forums I'd say this thread is a shining beacon of hope. Or something like that Razz

Merbusent
Posted - 2009.10.27 11:25:00 - [153]
 

Edited by: Merbusent on 27/10/2009 11:25:13
Originally by: Terianna Eri
Originally by: Ayssith D'ark
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
fit, etc
Wouldn't this just be phat lewts if you nossed and neuted it??
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dont get it.

skye orionis
Posted - 2009.10.27 17:28:00 - [154]
 

Give Drake Respect, - it's his birthday today after all.
http://www.imeem.com/jukebox/playlist/y7Fb5Jg4/happy-b-day-drizzy-music-playlist/

Ruban Spangler
Caldari
24th Imperial Crusade
Posted - 2009.10.27 18:06:00 - [155]
 

This is a trick question. Every noob knows that drakes are indestructible

Kail Storm
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.10.27 20:49:00 - [156]
 

Edited by: Kail Storm on 28/10/2009 06:30:22
Edited by: Kail Storm on 27/10/2009 20:56:58
Is the drake the best in 1v1 and ver ysmall gangs yes.....Is it over powered absolutely NO

Since its huge sig radius is bigger than some BS`s it basically melts very fast against BS gangs also since cald has no remote rep like other races it gets double owned also since missles can be used in big fights its triple ganked against BS RR gangs

Drake does its role very well king of the NON RR BC`s, but if you take 7 drakes and 7 RR Harbis with Scorch I think the harbis will win since they can all rep the primaried target while the drake can only rep what it can rep solo.

I hate the fact that the Guys on the forums have had to defend the drakes honor and keep arguing [and owning ugh] the guys who said forever the drake blows and will never be used in combat well etc etc

Now these are the same idiots who whine and say that the drake needs a nerfing LOL

We as cald guys have very few ships and almost 0 that are viable in large fleets, leave us our niche in small gang fights and solo fights, the drake owns 1v1 anything smaller than BS, but against BS`s it is slower than any other ships in its class with a BS sized sig radius meaning the BS has no trouble locking it and killing it and it doesnt get the tank of most full blown buffer fit BS`s.

It loses to most BS`s and ALL RR BS`s and it will lose in 20+ Battles most the time RR VS LOCAL TANK.

LEAVE US OUR 1 GREAT SHIP, just cause you blow hard and now you realized you were wrong when you were bragging about your awesome Armor ships now you want it changed...lol pathetic, 2 months ago you would have bet it all on the drake losing, and all that has changed???? OH YEAH YOU WERE OWNED IN ARGUMENTS

IF YOU WANNA BEAT THE DRAKE, use buddys its a MMO its supposed to make you work as teamates or just use 1 well fit BS and own it...


TL:DR

The IDIOTS said the drake is so weak and can not PVP and that it will get owned by all the others in PVP and should only mission.

Then Merin, Dav, Gypsio and all the other smart drake guys Owned them in arguments and made it clear drake would kill them solo or in very small gangs...They had no replys

Now the same idiots are whining saying that the drake is overpowered and needs to be nerfed LOL when nothing in game has changed....Basically since they wised up and were owned in convo about 1V1 and small gang fights, now they think it should be nerfed...Make up your minds, leave it alone...

To the OP 2 weeks ago Gypsio [In his Cerb] and 4 of his buddys Lit up my Ham Drake very fast the other day all with 3 hacs and 2 cruisers, I lasted maybe 2.5 mins.

If you are so terribad you cant beat a solo drake ratting in a belt...then guess what warp away since he doesnt have tackle...GTFO or quit I dont care just gimme your stuff first.

SuperNova221
J5 Industries
Posted - 2009.10.27 21:46:00 - [157]
 

Longest TL;DR I've ever seen.

Pater Peccavi
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
Posted - 2009.10.27 23:09:00 - [158]
 

Shouldn't the tl;dr be shorter than the rest of his post?

Laur Khal
Posted - 2009.10.28 00:17:00 - [159]
 

So, I saw a gang of shield RRing + cap transferring passive shield drakes tank 3x their number in battleships + support yesterday.


Kingwood
Amarr
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2009.10.28 03:15:00 - [160]
 

First Drake who didn't use SPRs when ratting. Boost active tanking.

http://killboard.globaldisorder.de/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=964

Kail Storm
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.10.28 07:23:00 - [161]
 

Originally by: Laur Khal
So, I saw a gang of shield RRing + cap transferring passive shield drakes tank 3x their number in battleships + support yesterday.




Then the BS group was very bad, If they were equal lets say a mix of geddons and IDK even weak ass rail Domis they hae major advantages over the Drakes.

Drake= about 80k EHP and 600 DPS with a maxxed out pilot but those numbers drop Very quikly when just takingthem from some level 5 to 4 skills, For instance a 5 pilot with all but Ham spec 5 and Target Nav predict and a few other Hi end missle only skills thedrake goes to about 450-520 range very fast.

And following suit with good but not perfect lvl 5 skills the drake also stays at about 65k ehp with a good buffer. So when everI hear that the drakes numbers are godly I agree except I am one of the 485 dps and 68k ehp tank drake pilots even though I have 6.5 mil dedicated to the drake alone, but Since I dont have perfect fitting skills and therefore cant drop in the 3rd BCS even with a 3% implant I cant get the last bit of tweaked DPS that some can out of it.

Also the RR argument IMO is just rediculously favored to the armor, yes you can get a good setup with the Bassilisk but with a whole fleet of Repping BS`s its Way More powerful IMO, I mean come one 15 Bs`s all repping the primary from 15 drakes all spewing half the DPS, and some BS`s with dual reps.

Geddon= My 3 mil sp geddon pilot gets 80k Ehp and 600 DPS with [email protected] 13kmand 10 falloff that is well within and beyond ham range while out dpsing most if not all the Drakes in the gag assuming the ydont have perfect skills and they will have to swapp to javs to get the 24km shots.

When you get lvl 5 guys you get a modest BS [geddon] fit to 105k EHP and 900 DPS. Basically any way you slice it in teh BS`s world the Drake loses It has all the drwabacks of the BS, Sig radius so the ycan lock it fast and hit it ez with missles or track it with turrets, its to slow to be a "Nano fit" that can make turrets miss, and all in all is way to weak to break a good RR tank while the BS can have multiple repper. Also dont forget the Large drone bays of the BS`s that can fit ECM drones, or Just use Heavys which will track a Drake and murder it, while the drake can only field lights.


TL:DR

Id like to see this fleet you saw, and if it indeed happen that way it was

1] Crazy low SP BS fleet with no Fitting knowledge at all.

2] All perfect level 5 skilled drake pilots

3] You must have just seen all the Drake fleets BS beat up the other BS`s and warp off lol because there is no way a fleet vs fleet of RR BS VS DRAKEs the drakes win in open even fight lol, Esp since its biggest gap is EM.

The BS are Stronger by around 20-40k EHP have more powerful reps since you would have 1 per ship ad they can all rep there buddys, The DPS of BS is almost double. Drones on BS alone Would Cause major Ecm probs for the slow drakes.

I saw this video one time of a NH killing tons of ships...Doesnt make the Night Hawk viable in PVP ..Seeing doesnt mean its the case all the time.


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