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brutoid
Caldari
Posted - 2009.10.25 00:05:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: Boomershoot
every year, at some point of time, people start whining because their "uber overclocked <brand> <cpu clock> <random tech term for coolness>" is obsolote.

in about 6 months my desktop will get to the 10-years theresold, and since i bought it 9 years and 6 months ago it ran well, without any major problem (eve nthe hard drives are in good conditions after 8 years).

Now, since it's going to be obsolete (for real) in the near future, i decided to wait until USB 3.0 is implemented on motherboards and the prices start to drop (june? maybe i'll wait till next september.)

then, my computer won't be the best, but it will last (hopefully 10 more years).

That's to avoid spending money on stuff that gets minor improvements over time.







As for DX11, i couldn't care less. when (and IF) it will become as stable as DX9c we can start thinking of DX11 in EVE


If your pc is really that ancient (almost 10 yrs old) and you're able to use DX9c then there must have been a gfx upgrade at some point?

I'd also like to hear your technical reasoning as to the 'stability' issue regarding DX11 over DX9. Question

illford baker
STK Scientific
IT Alliance
Posted - 2009.10.25 00:47:00 - [92]
 

i saw a youtube video, and tessellation(basically, you can draw more triangles with less lag(for those who don't know, all your games are drawn with triangles)) would make this game a visual orgy of epix graphics! though i don't have a DX11 card yet, i will buy one when the selection becomes more diverse and when more games i want start supporting them. check out the difference here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkKtY2G3FbU

EvilW33d
Posted - 2009.10.25 03:54:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: Zahidra
I always find XP vs Vista arguments interesting.
Sure, vista was buggy and not all that great until SP1.
Since then Vista > XP in most aspects (yes, even benchmark performance in many regards).
Win 7 is bascially a repacked and optimized Vista so i quite frankly find it hilarious when the vista haters praise win 7.
...


If you are going to argue, please do it right.
Vista has been an epic failure, since the day was launched. Even with SP1, there is no way, that OS would be better in *any* regard with that kind of system requirements, it *may* be in a high-end performance computer, but not in any computer. Plus, any tweaked XP would beat the cr*p out of any version of Vista.
Last, but not least... Win7 is *NOT* a repacked/optimized Vista. Please read an OS book and learn the basic concepts behind registries, multi-threathing, multi-cores, and such... and if you read a bit more on W7, you would see that W7 was entirely redesigned.
W7 will not get slower by installing lot of stuff and it will process stuff faster with multi core processors. Did i mention system requirements ? guess not... but i hope you get the point.

Lork Niffle
Gallente
External Hard Drive
Posted - 2009.10.25 10:08:00 - [94]
 

Originally by: EvilW33d


If you are going to argue, please do it right.
Vista has been an epic failure, since the day was launched. Even with SP1, there is no way, that OS would be better in *any* regard with that kind of system requirements, it *may* be in a high-end performance computer, but not in any computer. Plus, any tweaked XP would beat the cr*p out of any version of Vista.
Last, but not least... Win7 is *NOT* a repacked/optimized Vista. Please read an OS book and learn the basic concepts behind registries, multi-threathing, multi-cores, and such... and if you read a bit more on W7, you would see that W7 was entirely redesigned.
W7 will not get slower by installing lot of stuff and it will process stuff faster with multi core processors. Did i mention system requirements ? guess not... but i hope you get the point.


Wow, you really couldn't be more wrong.

Sure Vista launched and for the first years certainly wasn't a good idea in general. But SP1 and all the updates since really push it above XP, Suer ti has hiher minimum requirements but it does use them better once you go above 2GB or RAM. This was the same wwith the launch of Win2k and XP. Current systems weren't powerful, current drivers were incompatible, transistion zones for companies with new support meaning old reliable hardware would never work and you would have to wait for new companies to make new hardware for XP. This happens every time a New OS is launched from Microsoft, when yo control 90% of the market problem will statistically occur.

Win7 is a repackaged Vista, Microsoft did not want another Vista failure so kept the original VIsta shell and improved it enough to warrent a new OS. Like 2k to XP. Vista was the complete redesign, Win7 is the refinement.

Jim Luc
Caldari
Rule of Five
Vera Cruz Alliance
Posted - 2009.10.27 04:28:00 - [95]
 

So, this thread is supposed to be about when EvE will be receiving the many benefits of DX11, most notably tessellation. NOT a thread about why you run XP and won't upgrade to Vista or Win7....

The bottom line is how Eve will benefit with tessellation and lighting improvements. Trinity is still beautiful, and they're adding some great planet effects with Dominion, but if they could tessellate the planets and ships, then you could fly seamlessly to the planet's surface, or at least see the planet's mountains and valleys, or buildings, etc from high up. The stations would also be more in detail, with cars moving in the little cities, etc. It opens up a whole new world for artists, who can create a high-res/high-poly model, leaving the detail levels to the software and hardware.

Anyone from CCP care to speak up? Very Happy

Tiny Tove
Posted - 2009.10.27 12:10:00 - [96]
 

Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Originally by: Tiny Tove
Computers understand 1's and 0's.

They can add them, they can subract them, they can compare them, and they can move them from one place to another.
That's pretty much it.


I guess to you, hardware architecture means nothing since transistors are either on or off.

New DirectX version levels standardize new hardware features so that developers actually use them. ATI has had a hardware tessellator on their cards for something like five years, now that DX11 spec includes it, Nvidia will have to support it as well. Hell, Xbox360 has one and nearly every game uses it, but no PC games use it despite having the computing horsepower and hardware to do it better for years.

In any case, you sound bitter.



I canz downloadz and installz hardwarez hurrrrrrr

Prat.

StealthNet
Gallente
Posted - 2009.10.30 01:21:00 - [97]
 

http://www.lockergnome.com/theoracle/2009/10/28/microsoft-wastes-no-time-releasing-directx-11-for-vista/

Oh well.


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