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Shade nighthand
Posted - 2009.10.22 07:14:00 - [1]
 

hey i have a golem an im using it to ratt in drone region for mineral what is the fastest killing set up to kill scoop an loot?

Zar Terra
Posted - 2009.10.22 07:30:00 - [2]
 

Agro train the entire mission, then cut engines.
After everything is swarming around you, hit the self destruct button and eject (or don') that way, the explosion will destroy all the rats and you can get your salvage buddy to clean it all up.

Basicly:
1. warp in
2. agro entire room
3. self detonate
4. ???
5. PROFIT !!



GGjita
Posted - 2009.10.22 07:57:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Zar Terra
Agro train the entire mission, then cut engines.
After everything is swarming around you, hit the self destruct button and eject (or don') that way, the explosion will destroy all the rats and you can get your salvage buddy to clean it all up.

Basicly:
1. warp in
2. agro entire room
3. self detonate
4. ???
5. PROFIT !!





This, defiantly this.

Stanfer
Posted - 2009.10.22 08:16:00 - [4]
 

Hey, can I join you? I've never ratted in 0.0 before.

Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa
Minmatar
The Perfect Harvesting Experience
Posted - 2009.10.22 08:49:00 - [5]
 

I thought it had to do with warp to room, eject, warp back to station...

But my golem seems to be bugged.

Bromine Mercury
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
Posted - 2009.10.22 10:04:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Zar Terra
Agro train the entire mission, then cut engines.
After everything is swarming around you, hit the self destruct button and eject (or don') that way, the explosion will destroy all the rats and you can get your salvage buddy to clean it all up.

Basicly:
1. warp in
2. agro entire room
3. self detonate
4. ???
5. PROFIT !!



I tried this twice, with two different golems. Do I need to use more expensive modules to make the explosion larger?

Dr Fighter
Posted - 2009.10.22 10:34:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Bromine Mercury
Originally by: Zar Terra
Agro train the entire mission, then cut engines.
After everything is swarming around you, hit the self destruct button and eject (or don') that way, the explosion will destroy all the rats and you can get your salvage buddy to clean it all up.

Basicly:
1. warp in
2. agro entire room
3. self detonate
4. ???
5. PROFIT !!



I tried this twice, with two different golems. Do I need to use more expensive modules to make the explosion larger?



filling the hold with megacyte and morphite will increase the blast diameter significantly.

Tiyah
Posted - 2009.10.22 11:05:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Shade nighthand
hey i have a golem an im using it to ratt in drone region for mineral what is the fastest killing set up to kill scoop an loot?


[Golem, Epic Mining/Ratting]
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
100MN MicroWarpdrive II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager II
Salvager II
Salvager II
Salvager II

Large Cargohold Optimization I
Large Cargohold Optimization I


Hammerhead II x5
Mining Drone II x5

There now you can kill rats and mine minerals

Miyamoto Uroki
Caldari
Sarum Industries
Posted - 2009.10.22 13:38:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Shade nighthand
hey i have a golem an im using it to ratt in drone region for mineral what is the fastest killing set up to kill scoop an loot?


Simple:

Tech2 siege launchers with torps
rigs that increase torp range
hardwirings that increase damage output and range of torps
faction MWD to get into range fast
2 best named target painters
2 tractor beams
1 salvager II
4 faction ballistic control units
Med tech2 drones for smaller rats (in case you kill them)

...profit

Ralavina
Vivicide
Posted - 2009.10.22 13:46:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Miyamoto Uroki
Originally by: Shade nighthand
hey i have a golem an im using it to ratt in drone region for mineral what is the fastest killing set up to kill scoop an loot?


Simple:

Tech2 siege launchers with torps
rigs that increase torp range
hardwirings that increase damage output and range of torps
faction MWD to get into range fast
2 best named target painters
2 tractor beams
1 salvager II
4 faction ballistic control units
Med tech2 drones for smaller rats (in case you kill them)

...profit


all MWDs have the same speed boost.

Drek Grapper
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.10.22 13:57:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Tiyah
Originally by: Shade nighthand
hey i have a golem an im using it to ratt in drone region for mineral what is the fastest killing set up to kill scoop an loot?


[Golem, Epic Mining/Ratting]
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
100MN MicroWarpdrive II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager II
Salvager II
Salvager II
Salvager II

Large Cargohold Optimization I
Large Cargohold Optimization I


Hammerhead II x5
Mining Drone II x5

There now you can kill rats and mine minerals


Needs moar faction...

Dacryphile
Posted - 2009.10.22 14:01:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Shade nighthand
hey i have a golem an im using it to ratt in drone region for mineral what is the fastest killing set up to kill scoop an loot?

Activating locator agent in 3... 2... 1...

Megan Aven
Amarr
Posted - 2009.10.22 14:08:00 - [13]
 

I have 5 million, can I help?

Marko Riva
Posted - 2009.10.22 14:16:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Marko Riva on 22/10/2009 14:33:49
Well, drones do a lot of em/thermal damage so shield tanking is out of the question, armor tanking on the other hand works really well. Adding some bulkheads is also handy because it gives you some extra buffer if your armor tank would fail, giving you more time to warp out (the armor tank is very powerful though, so you'll probably will never have to use the bulkheads but better safe than sorry).

In the mids I'd put an afterburner but not a BS class one as it takes a lot of cap, so a cruiser one works just fine. Apart from that I'd put a lot of ECCM so if someone comes into your belt and tries to jam you, it'll fail miserably.

For damage I'd go with standard missiles, the BS rats aren't what you should be afraid of, it's the smaller rats that scram and web you making your ratting way more dangerous if bad guys jump into your system. So fit standard missiles to quickly take out the frigate tackler rats (also great against tackling inties!), use Fury missiles for more damage.

The remaining high slots I'd fit with large T2 shield transfers, because no one in his right mind will attack you (you got the ECCM remember) but they might attack your friends, being able to heal them is quite handy!

Drone wise I'd go with TP-900's, they'll help you target paint the frigate rats that attack you meaning you'll kill them faster. Use the heavy ones as bigger is always better.

For rigs I'd use cargo ones to be able to haul the massive amount of ratting loot you'll gather.


[Golem, uberratter]
Large Armor Repairer II
Reinforced Bulkheads II
Reinforced Bulkheads II
Reinforced Bulkheads II

10MN Afterburner II
ECCM - Gravimetric II
ECCM - Gravimetric II
ECCM - Gravimetric II
ECCM - Gravimetric II
ECCM - Gravimetric II
ECCM - Gravimetric II

Standard Missile Launcher II, Piranha Fury Light Missile
Standard Missile Launcher II, Piranha Fury Light Missile
Standard Missile Launcher II, Piranha Fury Light Missile
Standard Missile Launcher II, Piranha Fury Light Missile
Large Shield Transporter II
Large Shield Transporter II
Large Shield Transporter II

Large Cargohold Optimization II
Large Cargohold Optimization II


Berserker TP-900 x3




And there you have it, it's a tight fit but you'll be ready for anything!

Taurus Millenium
Posted - 2009.10.22 14:48:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Marko Riva

[Golem, uberratter]
Large Armor Repairer II
Reinforced Bulkheads II
Reinforced Bulkheads II
Reinforced Bulkheads II

10MN Afterburner II
ECCM - Gravimetric II
ECCM - Gravimetric II
ECCM - Gravimetric II
ECCM - Gravimetric II
ECCM - Gravimetric II
ECCM - Gravimetric II

Standard Missile Launcher II, Piranha Fury Light Missile
Standard Missile Launcher II, Piranha Fury Light Missile
Standard Missile Launcher II, Piranha Fury Light Missile
Standard Missile Launcher II, Piranha Fury Light Missile
Large Shield Transporter II
Large Shield Transporter II
Large Shield Transporter II

Large Cargohold Optimization II
Large Cargohold Optimization II


Berserker TP-900 x3





Yeah, you CAN go that route, I guess, if you're poor.

It really shines with officer mods tho. More isk/hour and all that.

Marko Riva
Posted - 2009.10.22 14:53:00 - [16]
 

True, but I figured I'd bring some sensibleness to the thread.

My fit will work just fine but you are indeed correct; replacing the armor rep with an x-type or similar does help a lot and if you're willing to shell out for proper complex or officer mods I guess you could go for a 100mn afterburner, it'll make you go a LOT faster making the increased cap usage worth it.

Thanks!


Peckles
The Reformists of the West
Posted - 2009.10.22 15:30:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Megan Aven
I have 5 million, can I help?


No, sorry...

Now on the other hand, if you had had 17 million, we could have gotten somewhere...

Lance Fighter
Amarr
Posted - 2009.10.22 16:08:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Peckles
Originally by: Megan Aven
I have 5 million, can I help?


No, sorry...

Now on the other hand, if you had had 17 million, we could have gotten somewhere...

well ive got 12 million. can i help?

Shade nighthand
Posted - 2009.10.23 09:59:00 - [19]
 

yes you can come help over in the drone region but i cant promise you make it out of there alive


 

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