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Tristante
Posted - 2009.10.19 01:43:00 - [1]
 

I've been trying to figure out how to stop the onyxs from can tipping. Is there any one caldari ship that could break an Onyx's tank? Thanks for any thoughts.

Rilwar
BlackStar Industrial
Posted - 2009.10.19 01:45:00 - [2]
 

If it's set up for pure tank, very likely no.

Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
Posted - 2009.10.19 01:52:00 - [3]
 

CNR. Rage torps. Dead Onyx.

Proxyyyy
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.10.19 02:35:00 - [4]
 

Have a tanking match...

Mansoto
Posted - 2009.10.19 03:23:00 - [5]
 

Quote:
If it's set up for pure tank, very likely no.


This. If he's setup for single-person-tank (i.e. shield regen rather than pure buffer) it'll be hard / impossible for one ship to break his tank- you're looking at anywhere from 1k-2k DPS tanked, depending on damage type / his skills / fittings, etc. Regardless- if you get close, he'll take off :(

Don Pellegrino
Pod Liberation Authority
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2009.10.19 04:42:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Don Pellegrino on 20/10/2009 01:35:27
I recall duelling a friendly Broadsword in my Megathron...

I finally broke his tank after several cycles of my medium neut because it turned his hardeners off.
Definetly put some neuts on your ship and, after a while, you should be able to do break his tank...

Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
Posted - 2009.10.19 09:59:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Merin Ryskin
CNR. Rage torps. Dead Onyx.


You'll need three painters, then. And a web. And a point. Giving you a one-medslot tank. It would work, though. But so would a normal Raven with a couple of med neuts and CN torps.

Darcon Kylote
Posted - 2009.10.19 12:15:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Darcon Kylote on 19/10/2009 12:25:49
Blaster eagle with a medium neut. You should be able to fit neutrons if you don't fit an MWD. Even electrons would do it though, with the neut. You'll want a cap injector too.

He won't see it coming either, everyone knows eagles are for sniping with rails.

If he's pure passive fit, then a well fit HAM drake should break him, but just barely.

Beltantis Torrence
Wolfsbrigade
ShadowWolves.net
Posted - 2009.10.19 22:43:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Darcon Kylote
Edited by: Darcon Kylote on 19/10/2009 12:25:49
Blaster eagle with a medium neut. You should be able to fit neutrons if you don't fit an MWD. Even electrons would do it though, with the neut. You'll want a cap injector too.

He won't see it coming either, everyone knows eagles are for sniping with rails.

If he's pure passive fit, then a well fit HAM drake should break him, but just barely.


You're not going to break an onyx tank with an eagle. Its resists are too good against kinetic/thermal.

Tristante
Posted - 2009.10.20 02:01:00 - [10]
 

You think if i use a rook to jam the onyx and holdem, sick the drones on him... then use my newb alt in a harbringer, think we could takem? the rook should be able to perma jam him, the harbringer could be fitted for neutralizers to make sure he never has any cap. Think it would work?

Rilwar
BlackStar Industrial
Posted - 2009.10.20 03:05:00 - [11]
 

or you could find him, scan his ship and EFT his fit and see what it's capable of, instead of asking a hypothetical question that relies 100% on what said mystery ship has fitted.

stu007
Posted - 2009.10.20 17:24:00 - [12]
 

Rook FTW! If its just buffer fit, you would wear its tank down eventually, especially if you have HAMs fit (EM or explosive missiles). Caldari specific jammers would ensure that it is jammed most of the time. However, if its a passive fit with purgers/shield power relays, nearly any ship is going to struggle to take it out solo.

Lars Lodar
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
Posted - 2009.10.21 12:33:00 - [13]
 

This will melt any Onyx even if it fits for full tank which it most likely wont if it expects to catch anything. Swap the TP for a Disruptor if you don't have a tackler.

[Raven, Torp Buffer Tank]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II
Reactor Control Unit II
Power Diagnostic System II

Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Target Painter II

Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo

Large Core Defence Field Extender I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I


Warrior II x5
Hammerhead II x5

Tozmeister
Digital Fury Corporation
Posted - 2009.10.21 13:28:00 - [14]
 

Rage torps have a 650 explosion radius vs an onyx's (with 4 extenders) 257 sig radius.

You'll need navy torps, T2 drones and at least one painter.

GavinGoodrich
Posted - 2009.10.21 19:03:00 - [15]
 

Drake or Raven with precision missiles is best.

Biggest likely weakness is EM, so anything that allows you to do EM damage within caldari (EM missiles) and acolyte/infiltrator/praetor/curator II's for EM drone damage.

It's likely buffed at least a lil' bit by the player, but the innate tank of kin/thermal is rather high on an onyx, so shoot something else. Do a couple test shots on 'em if possible if it won't get you killed of each missile damage type, find out which one hit hardest, and reload that quickly.

oodin
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.10.22 00:02:00 - [16]
 

learn to fly a "real" race Very Happy

el Sabor
Posted - 2009.10.22 01:54:00 - [17]
 

If he's can tipping in a belt just point him. We did this a year or so ago with a few T1 fitted frigs and just waited for him to exhaust his ammo. Then didn't let him go until someone with a high DPS ship nearby logged in. Was just over an hour Laughing

If you want ransom him or something, that could work too.

MarieFrance Tessier
Posted - 2009.10.22 04:28:00 - [18]
 

Quote:
acolyte/infiltrator/praetor


Those drones are TERRIBLE and should probably never be used. They have roughly half the base damage of the thermal counterparts, so unless the disparity in shield resonance is more than that much, you are better off with ogres.

Curators are fine because sentries are balanced somewhat more sensibly.

Lubomir Penev
Dark Nexxus
S I L E N T.
Posted - 2009.10.22 11:42:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: MarieFrance Tessier
Quote:
acolyte/infiltrator/praetor


Those drones are TERRIBLE and should probably never be used. They have roughly half the base damage of the thermal counterparts, so unless the disparity in shield resonance is more than that much, you are better off with ogres.

Curators are fine because sentries are balanced somewhat more sensibly.


Well that's exactly the case here.

Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
Posted - 2009.10.22 12:23:00 - [20]
 

For thermal drones, yes. But not for explosive drones.


 

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