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Aphoticus
Posted - 2009.10.12 20:29:00 - [1]
 

Aside from the ideas of Formations, and Stealth Bombers decloaking themselves, I offer an alternative.

Because cloaking devices on stealth bombers work in conjuction with the mechanics of warp drives (theoretically), the reason that stealth bombers decloak themselves maybe related not to them getting close to each other but because of deharmonization of the cloaking systems.

Formations have nothing to do with this, because in warp drive, the principles governed therein, make distance between ships a moot point. The reasoning, is because of the same reasoning you can not target, fire upon, another ship in warp - therefore how can you maintain distance in warp?

In theory, being in warp, does not adhere to the same physics in real space/time.

But, because of the principle physics of cloaking devices being akin to sub-space, therein may be the solution.

The recommendation, the formation, as a squad, based on a skill, that allows for limited cloaking harmonizing, thereby preventing decloaking, maybe the solution.

The benefits are obvious, but the cons are as follows.

Because it is a skill like squad command, only a limited number of stealth bombers (or more accurately, those who can use a covert ops cloaking device) can be in this squad.

Now, they can be within 2k of each other because their cloaking devices are harmonized.

Another con would be that if one of the stealth bombers decloak within the field of harmony (2k of another stealth bomber), so to speak, they would deharmonize the others within that proximity of one another. And in the same respect, any other ship coming within proximity of a stealth bomber, like a chain reaction to anyone in the 2k limit of the harmozing effect, would so be uncloaked.

In order to not have these harmozing effects decloak each other under those circumstance the pilot would have to navigate beyond the 2k distance of another stealth bomber and decloak.

One Pro would be that because of this harmonizing effect, it would be possible, within the effective 2k radius of harmonization, be able to detect one another until they leave the harmozing field of influence.

Being a skill would work similiar to the regular squad command skill, and no other ship types (covert op ship) could be part of the squad. I envision, if you have 1 point in the skill, you can be in the squad (command it) and be with one other, thus making the total of this type of squad, 1 + 5 at level 5 in the skill of Cloaking Harmonics.

That's my idea.

Cygwin Gaad
Caldari
The Element Syndicate
Blazing Angels Alliance
Posted - 2009.10.13 03:48:00 - [2]
 

i would probably suggest that there is a 15% reduction in the distance you can be from a stellar object or cloaked ship per level of Cloaking Harmonics before you are decloaked.

so at 5 you can be 500m from something before being decloaked.

this would be a good counter to some sort of cloak countermechanism.


Cygwin Gaad
Caldari
The Element Syndicate
Blazing Angels Alliance
Posted - 2009.10.13 03:58:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Cygwin Gaad on 13/10/2009 23:10:02
actually. i kinda get what you are saying, just in a rather elaborate way.


Scout Command: Allows command of a scout squadron. Increases maximum squadron size by 2 members per skill level, up to a maximum of 10 members. Scout squadrons have harmonised cloaking fields and do not decloak each other when within 2000m of another squad member.

Grants a 2% bonus to fleet members' sub-warp ship velocity per skill level. Only the bonus of the fleet member with the highest level in this skill is used.

Note: Fleet bonuses only affect fleet members in space within the same solar system

Primary Attribute: Charisma
Secondary Attribute: Intelligence (it takes smarts to harmonise cloaks rather than willpower)

Skill Requirements: Leadership 3, Cloaking 4 (covops cloak), Electronics 5 (prereq)
Training time multiplier: 3x

hows that sound?

Cygwin Gaad
Caldari
The Element Syndicate
Blazing Angels Alliance
Posted - 2009.10.13 23:10:00 - [4]
 

/bump
edits dont bump.

Aphoticus
Posted - 2009.10.13 23:52:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Aphoticus on 13/10/2009 23:54:18
It is much shorter than my explanation.

Although with it being a scouting squad, I would limit it back down to 1+5 for a total of 6 pilots that make up the squad.

The idea of lessoning the distance, as you may have re-thought, defeats the purpose of the harmonics. I get you may have gotten that too.

In so far as the Cons listed, because of the idea of Harmonics, do you see the fact that if another ship breaks one SB's harmonics, anyone within the chain will become upcloaked? Remember, this is a Con to a pretty nice Pro, of course, considering that they are all in the effective range of each other where harmonizing is in effect.

What else? I was thinking that another prerequisite may be the regular Squad Command too, as the Scouting Squad is a Step Up...Perhaps?


Cygwin Gaad
Caldari
The Element Syndicate
Blazing Angels Alliance
Posted - 2009.10.14 05:04:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Cygwin Gaad on 14/10/2009 05:04:36
Originally by: Aphoticus
Edited by: Aphoticus on 13/10/2009 23:54:18
It is much shorter than my explanation.

Although with it being a scouting squad, I would limit it back down to 1+5 for a total of 6 pilots that make up the squad.


perhaps.

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The idea of lessoning the distance, as you may have re-thought, defeats the purpose of the harmonics. I get you may have gotten that too.

yeah, scrap the first response, its silly.

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In so far as the Cons listed, because of the idea of Harmonics, do you see the fact that if another ship breaks one SB's harmonics, anyone within the chain will become upcloaked? Remember, this is a Con to a pretty nice Pro, of course, considering that they are all in the effective range of each other where harmonizing is in effect.

might be hard to code and would this affect the entire squad if they are more than 2000m away from each other?

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What else? I was thinking that another prerequisite may be the regular Squad Command too, as the Scouting Squad is a Step Up...Perhaps?

hence, Leadership, and cloaking.


 

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