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Ratey
Posted - 2009.10.11 01:38:00 - [1]
 

I see very low prices on decrypters and data cores in relatively large volumes. Is this artificially flooding the market to drive down prices? I appreciate that the T3 market is developing, and its interesting to see prices on materials vary so much.

Same with salvage items. The only reasonable sell prices are the nano ribbon things.

To sell the radar site stuff for so dirt cheap, people must be easily finding hundreds of them in a few minutes.

If decrypters and data cores are going to be so cheap, like below 60K isk, it's not worth it for me to scan down radar sites.

I'll just find a bunch of anomalies in 10 seconds, and just pickup sleeper tags that are always a good set price with npc corps.

Is it similar in other regions? haven't had time to check.

XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
Posted - 2009.10.11 02:09:00 - [2]
 

yeah...

ccp boosted the drop rates for datacores/decryptors by a ton a while back...effectively making them dirt cheap

but IMO radars are still worthwhile because they have lots of sleepers

lots of sleepers = more tags and more importantly, more chances to salvage those nicely price nanoribbons

Deathvoucher
Easy Co.
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2009.10.11 02:28:00 - [3]
 

plus radar sites are safer.
if you laps on your directional scanner for 30 seconds someone can do a probe scan and see all the sleeper sites.
they bounce them cloaked and call in the calvary to pew pew pew

MightyRhinox
Minmatar
Rhinox Heavy Industries
Twilight Military Industrial Complex Alliance
Posted - 2009.10.11 08:26:00 - [4]
 

Oh yay, a new "It's too cheap, I can't get rich" topic.

Ratey
Posted - 2009.10.11 13:43:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: MightyRhinox
Oh yay, a new "It's too cheap, I can't get rich" topic.

I think you missed my point.

Wondering how you make isk by spending 1Bill+ on stuff to find rare radar sites, and then sell decrypters for only 64,000 isk in quantities, where only a couple weeks ago the average was 2.5 mil?

Good advice that taking the effort to scan down more difficult sites improves concealment. Thanks!

I'll help anyway and pitch in cheap materials for the builders especially if the drop rates are up as mentioned in above post.

In the end better for T3 buyers, as mine went down from 500-600mil to 315mil, and the subsystems are much more reasonable now and I'm buying them all just to have them.

I'd like to see T3 ships get affordable enough for pvp eventually.

Catherine Frasier
Posted - 2009.10.11 14:28:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Deathvoucher
if you laps on your directional scanner for 30 seconds
If you do what to your scanner? Shocked

Enkindu's Ghost
Posted - 2009.10.11 22:14:00 - [7]
 

The reason that stuff is so cheap is because everyone living in W space has it coming out of their ears.

We spent months in W space with an entire T3 research/ production line set up. In the end it became nothing more than a grind for melted nanoribbons. We had a massive oversupply of EVERYTHING else including BPCs to build both T3 hulls and subsystems. But the nanoribbon droprate was terrible. Even the top tier BS (large advanced sleeper wrecks)were only dropping a couple (if they dropped any at all).

Quite frankly it stopped being fun. I took the whole operation down and basically sold everything off. The only things that brought any kind of real money were the malfunctioning/ intact hulls and parts and some of the racial decryptors and polymers.

I have no problem with things in eve being difficult and taking a long time- hell I like it like that. But I don't like to grind, and shooting sleeper after sleeper for days on end hoping for nothing but a few nanoribbons really did remind me of killing pigs in WoW (which I left after a very short while).

JitaPriceChecker2
Posted - 2009.10.11 22:50:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Enkindu's Ghost
The reason that stuff is so cheap is because everyone living in W space has it coming out of their ears.

We spent months in W space with an entire T3 research/ production line set up. In the end it became nothing more than a grind for melted nanoribbons. We had a massive oversupply of EVERYTHING else including BPCs to build both T3 hulls and subsystems. But the nanoribbon droprate was terrible. Even the top tier BS (large advanced sleeper wrecks)were only dropping a couple (if they dropped any at all).
null

Quite frankly it stopped being fun. I took the whole operation down and basically sold everything off. The only things that brought any kind of real money were the malfunctioning/ intact hulls and parts and some of the racial decryptors and polymers.

I have no problem with things in eve being difficult and taking a long time- hell I like it like that. But I don't like to grind, and shooting sleeper after sleeper for days on end hoping for nothing but a few nanoribbons really did remind me of killing pigs in WoW (which I left after a very short while).


I have a feeling your the one of "The minerals i mine are free" dudes.

Enkindu's Ghost
Posted - 2009.10.11 23:12:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2
Originally by: Enkindu's Ghost
The reason that stuff is so cheap is because everyone living in W space has it coming out of their ears.

We spent months in W space with an entire T3 research/ production line set up. In the end it became nothing more than a grind for melted nanoribbons. We had a massive oversupply of EVERYTHING else including BPCs to build both T3 hulls and subsystems. But the nanoribbon droprate was terrible. Even the top tier BS (large advanced sleeper wrecks)were only dropping a couple (if they dropped any at all).
null

Quite frankly it stopped being fun. I took the whole operation down and basically sold everything off. The only things that brought any kind of real money were the malfunctioning/ intact hulls and parts and some of the racial decryptors and polymers.

I have no problem with things in eve being difficult and taking a long time- hell I like it like that. But I don't like to grind, and shooting sleeper after sleeper for days on end hoping for nothing but a few nanoribbons really did remind me of killing pigs in WoW (which I left after a very short while).


I have a feeling your the one of "The minerals i mine are free" dudes.


Not at all, I factor market value of every build component I use into calculations when I'm looking at profitability. I have a feeling you are one of those "jump to baseless illogical conclusions" guys.

Signore Kaeota
Caldari
Terra Incognita
Posted - 2009.10.12 02:38:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2
I have a feeling your the one of "The minerals i mine are free" dudes.


I have a feeling you just wanted someone to troll.

Yes I do to. So what?

JitaPriceChecker2
Posted - 2009.10.12 11:13:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2 on 12/10/2009 11:15:21
Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2 on 12/10/2009 11:14:28
Originally by: Enkindu's Ghost
Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2
Originally by: Enkindu's Ghost
The reason that stuff is so cheap is because everyone living in W space has it coming out of their ears.

We spent months in W space with an entire T3 research/ production line set up. In the end it became nothing more than a grind for melted nanoribbons. We had a massive oversupply of EVERYTHING else including BPCs to build both T3 hulls and subsystems. But the nanoribbon droprate was terrible. Even the top tier BS (large advanced sleeper wrecks)were only dropping a couple (if they dropped any at all).
null

Quite frankly it stopped being fun. I took the whole operation down and basically sold everything off. The only things that brought any kind of real money were the malfunctioning/ intact hulls and parts and some of the racial decryptors and polymers.

I have no problem with things in eve being difficult and taking a long time- hell I like it like that. But I don't like to grind, and shooting sleeper after sleeper for days on end hoping for nothing but a few nanoribbons really did remind me of killing pigs in WoW (which I left after a very short while).


I have a feeling your the one of "The minerals i mine are free" dudes.


Not at all, I factor market value of every build component I use into calculations when I'm looking at profitability. I have a feeling you are one of those "jump to baseless illogical conclusions" guys.


If what you say is true , you wouldnt be whining about lack of nanoribbons.

You would do this instead.
1 Buy nanoribbons from market
2 Produce t3 stuff
3 Sell above manufacturing costs
4 ????
5 Profit

But no , you had to farm nanoribbons yourself to cut down production costs right ?

So no my conclusion is very logical.

Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation
Posted - 2009.10.12 11:37:00 - [12]
 

Confirming Jitapricechecker is jumping to illogical conclusions again, with borderline troll behaviour.

There will almost always be bottlenecks in any production, but CCP seem to delibrately design them into the game with insanely low drop rates for certain items to try to "control" prices.

This for me is poor game design, and counters their "emergent" gameplay.

If T3 production allowed T3 cruisers + subsystems to be built for 50 Mil, do CCP really think players would all fly T3? No, the market would rebalance itself and manufacturers might actually make a decent profit for a change.

Enkindu's Ghost
Posted - 2009.10.13 02:30:00 - [13]
 

For those in this thread suffering from a child-like inability to see past their own misinformed preconceptions:

A large part of the "industry" that goes on in eve happens not particularly for profit, but for the joy of putting something together yourself. Have you ever cooked a dinner with ingredients that you grew/gathered/caught yourself? No probably not, because it seems likely that your mother still cooks for you.

When you make baseless statements all it does is make you look like an ass. This would be a good lesson for you to learn early in life.

XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
Posted - 2009.10.13 02:56:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Enkindu's Ghost
For those in this thread suffering from a child-like inability to see past their own misinformed preconceptions:

A large part of the "industry" that goes on in eve happens not particularly for profit, but for the joy of putting something together yourself. Have you ever cooked a dinner with ingredients that you grew/gathered/caught yourself? No probably not, because it seems likely that your mother still cooks for you.

When you make baseless statements all it does is make you look like an ass. This would be a good lesson for you to learn early in life.


are you implying that some people participate in this virtual simulation that is called EvE for....personal satisfaction...or even...fun?

OUTRAGEOUS MAN! COMPLETELY PREPOSTEROUS I SAY!

JitaPriceChecker2
Posted - 2009.10.13 06:23:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2 on 13/10/2009 06:27:31

Dezonian
Posted - 2009.10.13 07:06:00 - [16]
 

bump


 

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