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Af'ilia
Posted - 2009.10.10 07:47:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Af''ilia on 10/10/2009 07:47:43
No. Just no. They are way to over f*cking powered.... and my eyes hurt like hell from the strain of 15+ bombers... AHHHH

there dps can take a bs down in 2 shots and there literaly like a friggin fleet of 50+ brutix's... just? no.
Please find another fit... please?

Sign if you agree, if not, explain why?

EdFromHumanResources
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.10.10 07:56:00 - [2]
 

No.

They were my idea Cool

Neriel Odershank
Posted - 2009.10.10 08:04:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: EdFromHumanResources
No.

They were my idea Cool


Yeah yeah, you are awsome, now go and play with that little ball near those tigers, kid.

Sam LongSon
Posted - 2009.10.10 08:06:00 - [4]
 

No,

You forget, both carriers and super carriers *hate name* are designed to be able to combat both capital and conventional ships.

As someone with a mom/SC i love the changes.. I MIGHT use it in combat now.

Af'ilia
Posted - 2009.10.10 08:12:00 - [5]
 

in all seriousness... this cant be released with the shear amount of dps and eye pain...

i have probably the worst headache from when i undocked to see 3 moms

the teddybear
Posted - 2009.10.10 08:22:00 - [6]
 

um... no they are not, supercarriers (from what i have heard from many people) have been underpowered and essentally useless untill now, they get their combat effectiveness and get a little closer to being that "thing you have up your sleeve incase you get hot dropped" imo i like them and tbh why complain about a MOTHERSHIP killing you? i think a titan that can instapop almost everyship in game would be a little scarrier for anyone facing the barrel rather than a swarm of drones that you can easily outrun. just my .02 isk

Bobbechk
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.10.10 08:26:00 - [7]
 

just kill the bombers and carry on killing the mom....

Af'ilia
Posted - 2009.10.10 08:30:00 - [8]
 

hard to kill them if you cant target them and pop them in under 10 seconds...

Time on targeting? 30+
Time on killing? Gl hitting it with torps man

smarts bombs barely hurt em

Rudolf Miller
Dawn of a new Empire
The Initiative.
Posted - 2009.10.10 08:33:00 - [9]
 

The only thing wrong with new moms is the lag they generate and the "worse than sensor booster" blinding effect the bombers torps make when zoomed in. Tbh a 12 bil ship should be able to face **** a 100 mil BS. Just means strategy needs to adapt and change because the torps are like normal torps and have sig radius and explo. velocity issues so you gotta out run them and make them miss.

LeBelInconnu
Tribal Liberation Force
Posted - 2009.10.10 08:53:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Af'ilia
hard to kill them if you cant target them and pop them in under 10 seconds...

Time on targeting? 30+
Time on killing? Gl hitting it with torps man

smarts bombs barely hurt em



hmmmmh mmmm

if only there was some sort of ship in eve that locks faster than 30 seconds and using medium weapons instead of torps... and that could take minimal damage when facing down bombers... hmm ... hmmm..

oh well I guess CCP will never release HICs/HACs/Cruisers/AF/Bombers/Battlecruisers/Interceptors.

That would be a novel thought wouldn't it?

Ryan Coolness
The Littlest Hobos
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2009.10.10 08:54:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Af'ilia

there dps can take a bs down in 2 shots and there literaly like a friggin fleet of 50+ brutix's... just? no.



Unless they have been massively boosted since I tested them on SiSi I call shennanigans on that statement.
Were you tanked at all? Were you target painted heavily?

Anyway when I tested the bombers with bombers skill at 4 last week they were as fast in taking down an unpainted BS as a flight of heavy t2 drones, in other words less effective then regular fighters on BS sized targets and I havent read of a massive dps buff within the last week for them so yea....not a believable statement from your side, move along troll?

Af'ilia
Posted - 2009.10.10 09:05:00 - [12]
 

it was a uber shield tank golem (we all know how uber that is) and remember how everyones skills are at 5?

Batolemaeus
Caldari
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.10.10 11:46:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Af'ilia
it was a uber shield tank golem (we all know how uber that is) and remember how everyones skills are at 5?


So no hp buffer an paper tank. Try pvp ships with other people in pvp ships instead..

Adam Ridgway
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.10.10 11:59:00 - [14]
 

Try surviving 20 closerange player BS shooting at you with that sort of tank and tell me how wrong is it...

Seriouslly, you should be using a buffer tank and obviouslly you wouldn't take them 1 on 1. One of these ships has the cost of a full plated bs fleet, and if they remove insurance...

Leave them as they are.

Cenna Ravenholt
Posted - 2009.10.10 13:04:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Cenna Ravenholt on 10/10/2009 13:04:48
Edited by: Cenna Ravenholt on 10/10/2009 13:04:21
Originally by: Af'ilia
in all seriousness... this cant be released with the shear amount of dps and eye pain...

i have probably the worst headache from when i undocked to see 3 moms




http://imgkk.com/i/_sqodl.jpg

Dark Spartan796
Caldari
So Cash Industries
Posted - 2009.10.10 15:23:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Dark Spartan796 on 10/10/2009 15:26:10
22 million effective HP. From what I can tell these monsters have more EHP than the Titans.

25 fighter bombers.

I took down a Titan by myself. His doomsday did maybe 10% armor damage every time he used it.

Incredibly fun to use, but there may be a bit of an issue. Very Happy

MIND SCR4MBLER
Posted - 2009.10.10 15:46:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Dark Spartan796
Edited by: Dark Spartan796 on 10/10/2009 15:26:10
22 million effective HP. From what I can tell these monsters have more EHP than the Titans.

25 fighter bombers.

I took down a Titan by myself. His doomsday did maybe 10% armor damage every time he used it.

Incredibly fun to use, but there may be a bit of an issue. Very Happy


post your fitting before you ask for the nerfbat, lets see how realistic it is for tranq fleet first or just another sisi lolfit.



Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2009.10.10 16:27:00 - [18]
 

One titan (And possibly one supercarrier) took my large control tower down to 50% shields in about 5 minutes Neutral

Acrid Acid
Posted - 2009.10.10 16:34:00 - [19]
 

A si-silly fit. Laughing

EdFromHumanResources
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.10.10 21:56:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Af'ilia
hard to kill them if you cant target them and pop them in under 10 seconds...

Time on targeting? 30+
Time on killing? Gl hitting it with torps man

smarts bombs barely hurt em


Surprise, anti capital weapons aren't easily killed by capitals.

Pierced Brosmen
Priory Of The Lemon
Posted - 2009.10.11 17:54:00 - [21]
 

Having tested the supercarriers, both at the giving and recieving end, my view of the changes is that it's finally gonna be worth it's massive pricetag in combat operations.

And even though it has no problem killing carriers and dreads, it's still gonna be highly dependent on a support fleet.

It will be interesting to watch the killboards in the first months after Dominion Very Happy

Private Bank
Posted - 2009.10.11 17:59:00 - [22]
 

they are not that bad. my maelstrom got 20 on her today, i could tank them with about 3000dps tank. so its not like they do 10kdps

Stupid1324
Highwaymen
Posted - 2009.10.11 18:34:00 - [23]
 

Reduce mom's bandwidth. Keep the fighter bombers at a required 500 bandwidth so smaller ships can't use them (ie carriers), but reduce the mom's bandwidth for their control. A lot. 15+ of those bombers is just rediculous, I was testing a NYX earlier and was suprised to see it's 12.5k drone bandwidth... That should be reduced to something a lot, lot lower, giving control to only a few bombers at a time...
No I'm not an actual NYX pilot on TQ, but when I see 20 fighter bomber crippling a Thanatos with relative ease, I think the nerf bat needs to come out.

Cracken
Gallente
Posted - 2009.10.11 19:09:00 - [24]
 

torps are slow does anyone even try too use defenders anymore a large part of the dps of the fighter bombers comes from torps know how ccp can counter that make the torps from fighter bombers slower making defenders useful against them.

Ideal counter would be you sick medium drones on em and have rocket launchers spitting out defenders like candy.

Af'ilia
Posted - 2009.10.11 19:12:00 - [25]
 

^^ that kills ur dps man

and oh... btw... The bombers killed the nerf bat =/

Cracken
Gallente
Posted - 2009.10.11 19:15:00 - [26]
 

yes but the beauty of it is a mom's dps is it's fighter bomber's or fighters. so once you kill the fighter bombers that's it no more dps.

ShadowGod56
Posted - 2009.10.11 19:24:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Af'ilia
Edited by: Af''ilia on 10/10/2009 07:47:43
No. Just no. They are way to over f*cking powered.... and my eyes hurt like hell from the strain of 15+ bombers... AHHHH

there dps can take a bs down in 2 shots and there literaly like a friggin fleet of 50+ brutix's... just? no.
Please find another fit... please?

Sign if you agree, if not, explain why?




stop right their criminal scum!

now their actually useful and you want to nerf them

for shame!

girlybabe
Posted - 2009.10.11 19:52:00 - [28]
 

Also you cant smartbomb bombers with a tech1 smartbomb,
only with faction or officer smartbombs :)

They orbit and stay at a range of 7.500m and a normal smartbomb is around 6.000m :P

justin666
Posted - 2009.10.11 20:13:00 - [29]
 

i love the new motherships i was tryin out the new nyx on sisi and tbh i think they are the ships u rely wana worry bout coz they are so leathal when used right u can tank a titan dd easily on a well fitted nyx

Af'ilia
Posted - 2009.10.11 20:26:00 - [30]
 

Titan vs mom > mom

Mom vs mom > mom

Carrier vs mom > mom

Fleet of bs vs mom > mom...

Do you see the problem? moms are now the best ship in the game... and they got a **** to of cargo (corp hangar) and oh god.... the maint bay... and it repairs your fleet to? (Like it needs it...)


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