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MynChu NicAtoch
Caldari
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.09.30 12:01:00 - [61]
 

Edited by: MynChu NicAtoch on 30/09/2009 12:05:10
This is probably an insane thing to do (treating CAOD members as if there were real people behind those keyboards rarely works) but .. anyone got any ideas on the extent of this bug?

Of the four dreads I came in with I had long enough to try a few things.

One dread had grouped weapons. Its weapons were firing ok on the first target. I toggled the weapons to switch them off, and although the single gun icon went red, it continued to spin. I tried ungrouping, but they were already red. I tried unloading ammo, but it wouldn't as the guns were in use. I tried offlining a gun, and it did indeed go offling. The guns weren't using cap and I wasn't being shot so had almost max cap, but it wouldn't go back online. Tried to leave siege to trigger the lock clearing code .. but then I was lit up and was down in less than thirty secodns .. someone wasn't having my problem .. lots of someones!

Tried another dread. This one didn't have grouped guns. Same problem. Tried unloading ammo .. wouldn't as gun was in use. tried spamming F3 key a few times to try to get a signal through to stop firing on a single gun, but nothing changed. Guns icon kept spinning and stayed red till this too died before the end of its first cycle.

Meanwhile I'd jumped a third account's dread pilot in. Didn't get to try much on this one as I was immediately primaried and popped. Thanks Tomas!

As this was going on I logged a fourth dread on that was already in system. This dread warped into the figth rather than cyno'ing in. This had the same problem again. Helped kill one dread, unable to switch off guns. Tried ammo unload. Nothing. Tried leaving siege. This one lived till the end of the cycle, but wouldn't leave siege, so I couldn't try the lock clearance on resieging.

Got a fifth and sixth dread undocked ready to jump in ... fortunately the FC had realized we were just ****ing them away at this ponit and called it off.

Anyone have a different experience? Some of you were able to shoot. Though the lossmails only show a single dread doing damage on each and the rest are zero damage. Yes, even MY logs show nothing!

Myn

Manterror
Gallente
Fuzzy Duck Flying V Squadron
Predatory Instincts
Posted - 2009.09.30 12:06:00 - [62]
 

Originally by: MynChu NicAtoch
node lag


Start a new thread in the issues forum

MynChu NicAtoch
Caldari
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.09.30 12:19:00 - [63]
 

Edited by: MynChu NicAtoch on 30/09/2009 12:21:41

and immediately I get a great reply on MSN. Thought I'd share this with you guys. Anonymized as like me the guy's alliance is one of those that don't allow posting here.
Originally by: aaa.dood
him> manual fire :P
me> post it
him> guns always lock upp when it's lag :(
me> how do you do manual fire?
him> no chars that can post on coad atm he he
him> Sett guns to manual
him> eg : turn off "auto repeat"
him> tapp the gun icons after two cycles
me> and then just F1 f2 f3?
him> and they wil stop to fire..
him> and then fire again.
me> we never came down south
him> it's a ****ing pain... but it's how its ben for 6 months now
me> so this is the first cap batlle we have been in and suffered this
him> hehe
him> it happends in normal battles to
him> always on laggy nodes
me> yeah .. I told you we don't do the large battle stuff
him> hehe
me> we just don't get that sort of lag up here
him> Leason hard learned :P but it wil go bether nextime :)
me> do you mind if I copy this?
him> drones\guns\missiles it's all lagged to ****
me> I'll take your name out
him> shure np
him>

-set guns to manual fire
-after two cycles double tap the gun icon (next to target your are shooting )
-activate guns, and start at step two


Blazde
Minmatar
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.09.30 12:27:00 - [64]
 

Edited by: Blazde on 30/09/2009 12:29:14
Originally by: MynChu NicAtoch

This is probably an insane thing to do (treating CAOD members as if there were real people behind those keyboards rarely works) but .. anyone got any ideas on the extent of this bug?


Did you have autorepeat on? If so you probably should have paid better attention to the FCs/others explaining how to prevent lockups/extended cycles Smile This was apparently one of the things that lost us the fight, too many people that lacked experience of fighting in heavy lag.

Edit: Yea that's it. Same deal with seige mod/reper too.

MynChu NicAtoch
Caldari
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.09.30 12:30:00 - [65]
 

Edited by: MynChu NicAtoch on 30/09/2009 12:30:30
Originally by: Blazde
Originally by: MynChu NicAtoch

This is probably an insane thing to do (treating CAOD members as if there were real people behind those keyboards rarely works) but .. anyone got any ideas on the extent of this bug?


Did you have autorepeat on? If so you probably should have paid better attention to the FCs/others explaining how to prevent lockups/extended cycles Smile This was apparently one of the things that lost us the fight, too many people that lacked experience of fighting in heavy lag.
Logged on halfway through the fight, unfortunatly. So yep .. looks like me and others who weren't at the pre-op briefing, or didn't know what you guys were talking about is the reason for such a sound thrashing. Fortunately only 30 of the dreads were from my alliance, so at least the blame can be shared :p

Maybe CCP can add this to the wiki!

Adamantium Beams
Gallente
Section XIII
Cursed Alliance
Posted - 2009.09.30 12:35:00 - [66]
 

**** this crappy TZ Mad

Vyktrr
Amarr
ANZAC ALLIANCE
IT Alliance
Posted - 2009.09.30 12:41:00 - [67]
 

Nice sounding battle. Just a shame that PL are soo 'Goonie'.

nunun
Caldari
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.09.30 14:22:00 - [68]
 

beeing up tell 10 am is bad but i love the fight nice done Viper great scoutting and nice fight evry one ....

ty for the allis that show up great job evry one ... looking for more blood here soon Twisted Evil

Halsoy
Gallente
Resilience.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2009.09.30 14:32:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: Nova Soldier
WE WANT VIDEO

if someone frapsed it we would like to see it please


Did, but there's really not much to watch Razz Just a carrier trying depserately to use RR's and neuts, just to get them stuck cycling for a few min, and pushing fighters around Neutral There's alot of explosions tho Laughing

Shadoo
Gallente
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.09.30 14:34:00 - [70]
 

Edited by: Shadoo on 30/09/2009 14:35:06
Originally by: MynChu NicAtoch
anyone got any ideas on the extent of this bug?


I'll just come out and post what your allied FCs are thinking:

:cripes:

I guess today's MH wasn't there with the rest of us in E-O/M-O when it mattered.

titanstory
Amarr
Cursed Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
Posted - 2009.09.30 15:07:00 - [71]
 

US TZ best TZ, was so ****ing epic, hard at the end of the fight (8am for french guys) but well i was here !

Brendalin Kerr
Caldari
The Knights Templar
Strategic Operations Brigade
Posted - 2009.09.30 15:33:00 - [72]
 

Was a very fun fight. Got pretty laggy after about 5 minutes or so once the main battle started. Pl's move to bubble the NC caps on the planet was very well done, thougt I think it was about 1/3 of the fleet that got stuck. Anyways great fight to both sides.

Belloc Slunv
Amarr
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.09.30 15:42:00 - [73]
 

Great fight. Went through a twelve pack of beer during all of it :D

Elektrea
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.09.30 15:46:00 - [74]
 

Originally by: Fintroll
i never thought killing capitals could get so boring, but after the first 50 or so i just felt like taking a nap

Balor Haliquin
Amarr
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.09.30 16:02:00 - [75]
 

I think my guns are still "red" and still cycling after that fight. Lag was bad >.<

Great fight PL/CH/ER/SoT see yah on the battle field again some time.

Martinez
Caldari
T-Cells
Moar Tears
Posted - 2009.09.30 16:18:00 - [76]
 

Originally by: Faife
Edited by: Faife on 30/09/2009 07:04:24
confirming that SoT didn't lose caps. our weekly efficiency blew up to something stupid like 90% cause of this.

also confirming that i'm **** at math, didn't bring enough fuel, and got stuck 1 jump out until someone came back and jetted me some isotopes Embarassed


guess you should do a cartoon about that.

Jslice
Amarr
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.09.30 16:19:00 - [77]
 

Originally by: MynChu NicAtoch
Edited by: MynChu NicAtoch on 30/09/2009 12:05:10
blah blah

Myn


You have 4 dreads and don't know how to cycle in lag? Honestly the lag wasn't too bad, been in many battles before where all the tricks in the book couldn't turn off the guns. I accidentally got a killing blow and missed out on 2 kills while I fixed my red guns.

Was tons of fun, sat in the staging area for an hour or more thinking we were going to have some epic blue balls. The best part was when Viper said stack all stront... you knew it was gunna be fun. Lucky I had 7 stront cycles :)

Agmar
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.09.30 16:30:00 - [78]
 

pretty sure I swung the fight in our favor when I came back from the new left 4 dead map (which is p. good, btw) and started shooting the dreads with my 3x TECH 2 light neutron blaster CANNONS.

Calgus
Gallente
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2009.09.30 16:36:00 - [79]
 

aye gun lag management is pretty dam important skill to learn when it comes to lagged up nodes. Had to learn that pretty quickly during querious. A lot of dread pilots will not use grouped guns as there is less of a chance of all of em locking up.

I'm Down
Caldari
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.09.30 16:38:00 - [80]
 

Originally by: Shadoo
If I ever logon again, I will send you 200mil for primarying Yazoul <3.


I told the Battleship group we will go back to primarying Yaz every time he undocks in a new one. We only ever got 2 other targets down :-)

Teschan
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2009.09.30 16:45:00 - [81]
 

I missed it because I was incredibly drunk

Cupdeez
Caldari
Out of Order
Posted - 2009.09.30 17:00:00 - [82]
 

Edited by: Cupdeez on 30/09/2009 17:04:08
This is what EVE is all about.. 2 Major alliance shooting it out with help from a few pet alliance..

Not the normal 35 alliance vs 40 alliance we have been seeing...


This makes EVE more fun! Nice job to both sides for bringing it!



Yeah, on a side not if anyone needs a REV BPC package with all the BPC included send me a message I'll put it on contracts for you!

Togakure
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.09.30 17:00:00 - [83]
 

Originally by: Agmar
pretty sure I swung the fight in our favor when I came back from the new left 4 dead map (which is p. good, btw) and started shooting the dreads with my 3x TECH 2 light neutron blaster CANNONS.


Yeah that part was pretty sick. I was left wondering, how does Agmar do it time and time again.

Agmar
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.09.30 17:04:00 - [84]
 

Originally by: Togakure
Originally by: Agmar
pretty sure I swung the fight in our favor when I came back from the new left 4 dead map (which is p. good, btw) and started shooting the dreads with my 3x TECH 2 light neutron blaster CANNONS.


Yeah that part was pretty sick. I was left wondering, how does Agmar do it time and time again.
I'm looking for a new phobos fit btw... I do like 75 dps in that p.o.s.

Sgt Napalm
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2009.09.30 17:10:00 - [85]
 

By far the best fight I've had in my 4+ years of EvE.

ugh

Fantome
Gallente
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.09.30 18:35:00 - [86]
 

Originally by: Blazde
Edited by: Blazde on 30/09/2009 12:29:14
Originally by: MynChu NicAtoch

This is probably an insane thing to do (treating CAOD members as if there were real people behind those keyboards rarely works) but .. anyone got any ideas on the extent of this bug?


Did you have autorepeat on? If so you probably should have paid better attention to the FCs/others explaining how to prevent lockups/extended cycles Smile This was apparently one of the things that lost us the fight, too many people that lacked experience of fighting in heavy lag.

Edit: Yea that's it. Same deal with seige mod/reper too.


About bolded part, some "epic" fitting could explain too :

- one moros with gravimettric ECCM and no siege module (Captain Chip - Majesta Empire)
- one niddhoggur with ... XL Shield booster ... and 1600 mm + large armor repairer (Leomancer - MH)

and prolly some more epic fit like that...

ugh

Ethan Hunte
Gallente
Ninjas With Frikkin StarShips
Posted - 2009.09.30 19:03:00 - [87]
 

you won one fight PL, bravo.

MM has replaced those dreads already.

are you ready for the next round?

titanstory
Amarr
Cursed Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
Posted - 2009.09.30 19:21:00 - [88]
 

Originally by: Ethan Hunte
you won one fight PL, bravo.

MM has replaced those dreads already.

are you ready for the next round?


i've asked my revelation, and he's ready to kill other nc caps. dont worry.
who r you ?

Agmar
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.09.30 19:22:00 - [89]
 

Originally by: Ethan Hunte
you won one fight PL, bravo.

MM has replaced those dreads already.

are you ready for the next round?
u sound mad... u mad? I think ur mad

RED LIGHT! GREEN LIGHT!

Princess Jodi
Gallente
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2009.09.30 19:42:00 - [90]
 

Obviously PL was not fighting the elite Expeditionary Force NC... we know how to fight in Lag.

Sounds like it was a good fight. Sorry I missed it.




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