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Speedtouch
Gallente
Deliverers of Pain
Ev0ke
Posted - 2009.09.26 16:20:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Speedtouch on 26/09/2009 16:23:09
I currently have Caldari State at -2.15 and Amarr Empire at -4.43, unfortunately I already have Diplomacy skill at lv 5 so it cannot help anymore.
I decided to do missions for Ammatars that are liked from both, but after a storyline mission, a lv2 one, the standing rised only 0.03 for Caldari and a bit more for Amarr, like 0.08 .....Is there any faster way? I'm sure lv4 storyline will give better results but how much? Because even if lv4 storyline double the gain it'll still take AGES to go back to neutral standing with Amarr/Caldari....
And why, even if Caldari standing isnt so bad, I dont have access to any of their agents, neither lv 1 Q-20??? For example I have Kaalakiota at +1.70 but no agent avaitable, do I have to bring the Caldari State faction standing to -1.89 and up to have any?

Horchan
Gallente
Posted - 2009.09.26 16:37:00 - [2]
 

Originally by: Speedtouch
but after a storyline mission, a lv2 one

Get to doing L4 missions and storylines with the Ammatar, it gives exponentially more standing gains. Actually, at your present rate, you should be above -2.00 faction standing towards the Caldari before you hit L4's, possibly even L3's. Once over that threshold, you'll be able to do missions for the Caldari again.

Originally by: Speedtouch
And why, even if Caldari standing isnt so bad, I dont have access to any of their agents, neither lv 1 Q-20??? For example I have Kaalakiota at +1.70 but no agent avaitable, do I have to bring the Caldari State faction standing to -1.89 and up to have any?

You must have a faction standing of over -2.00 to be able to use any agent belonging to that faction, even if you have good corp/agent standing with that agent.

Speedtouch
Gallente
Deliverers of Pain
Ev0ke
Posted - 2009.09.26 16:50:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Horchan
Originally by: Speedtouch
but after a storyline mission, a lv2 one

Get to doing L4 missions and storylines with the Ammatar, it gives exponentially more standing gains. Actually, at your present rate, you should be above -2.00 faction standing towards the Caldari before you hit L4's, possibly even L3's. Once over that threshold, you'll be able to do missions for the Caldari again.

Originally by: Speedtouch
And why, even if Caldari standing isnt so bad, I dont have access to any of their agents, neither lv 1 Q-20??? For example I have Kaalakiota at +1.70 but no agent avaitable, do I have to bring the Caldari State faction standing to -1.89 and up to have any?

You must have a faction standing of over -2.00 to be able to use any agent belonging to that faction, even if you have good corp/agent standing with that agent.


Thx for the answer!
Atm I can use lv4 agents for ammatar. I'm wondering how much a lv4 storyline will bring up the standing, you know 15 lv4 missions takes long time to complete Crying or Very sad

Horchan
Gallente
Posted - 2009.09.26 17:00:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Speedtouch
Thx for the answer!
Atm I can use lv4 agents for ammatar. I'm wondering how much a lv4 storyline will bring up the standing, you know 15 lv4 missions takes long time to complete Crying or Very sad

L4 storylines generally give around an 8% boost to faction standing, though you'll only gain 60% of that towards Caldari (Ammatar is liked by Caldari to 6.0), so a 4.8% Caldari faction boost. I'd do the rest of the math, but I don't know your unmodified Caldari standing. However, I'm pretty sure one L4 Ammatar storyline should push you over the threshold to using Caldari agents again.

Speedtouch
Gallente
Deliverers of Pain
Ev0ke
Posted - 2009.09.26 17:09:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Speedtouch on 26/09/2009 17:10:43
Originally by: Horchan
Originally by: Speedtouch
Thx for the answer!
Atm I can use lv4 agents for ammatar. I'm wondering how much a lv4 storyline will bring up the standing, you know 15 lv4 missions takes long time to complete Crying or Very sad

L4 storylines generally give around an 8% boost to faction standing, though you'll only gain 60% of that towards Caldari (Ammatar is liked by Caldari to 6.0), so a 4.8% Caldari faction boost. I'd do the rest of the math, but I don't know your unmodified Caldari standing. However, I'm pretty sure one L4 Ammatar storyline should push you over the threshold to using Caldari agents again.


Thx again! Last question: to get a lv4 storyline do I have to complete 15 Lv4 missions? Or I can do like the first 10 missions with a lv2 agent and the rest with lv4 one?

EDIT: My unmodified caldari standing is -5.19

Horchan
Gallente
Posted - 2009.09.26 17:37:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Speedtouch
Thx again! Last question: to get a lv4 storyline do I have to complete 15 Lv4 missions? Or I can do like the first 10 missions with a lv2 agent and the rest with lv4 one?

EDIT: My unmodified caldari standing is -5.19

You need to do 16 missions of the same level for the same faction to get offered a storyline of that level. Each faction/level combo keeps a separate tally, so mixing and matching levels won't get you storyline offers any quicker.

Ok, so (10 - -5.19) * 0.048 = 0.729 increase, which would put you at -4.46, which with Diplomacy 5 will definitely put you over -2.00, allowing you to run missions with Caldari agents again.

Alexander Leviathan
Amarr
Posted - 2009.09.26 17:39:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Alexander Leviathan on 26/09/2009 17:39:21
Thx !


 

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