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Stainless Rat
Gallente
Hakata Group
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Posted - 2009.09.20 03:10:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Stainless Rat on 02/10/2009 02:36:32
In light of Tripoli's recent accomplishment I ran the numbers through EVEMon to see how long it would take to go from newb to having every skill at level 1. The best I could come up with is 1330 days (about 3 years 8 months) at a cost of 29 billion ISK.

My strategy was to set everything in EVEMon to level 1, assume +5 learning implants (with +4s add 60 days) and then tinker with the training order to make best use of remappings. The order tries to group as many skills with the same primary attribute together as possible. Memory comes first because that's what most learning skills require. Then Intelligence as many Int skills are prereqs for others. Then Perception, Willpower and finally Charisma (no really compelling reason for that order).

Its too large to fit in one post, so here it is!

UPDATE The plan has been updated to show the remappings.

There's some oddities in the plan. Instead of going from Eidetic Memory 5 to Learning 5 like normal a bunch of other learning skills are trained along with Cybernetics 3. This is to take maximum advantage of the 1.6 mil newbie training bonus 80k of which would be wasted otherwise. It also allows jumping to +3 implants slightly earlier. In the long run it likely doesn't matter.

Also there's not a full year of Int based skills so the remapping to Perception is delayed for 5 million SP. Its possible that gap could be removed.

PS The longest skills to train to level 1 (including prereqs) are...

* Titan: 238 days
* Carrier: 135 days
* Dread: 105 days
* Fleet Command: 81 days
* Large X Specialization: 61 days
* Black Ops: 57 days
* Capital Industrial: 52 days
* Doomsday Operation: 50 days
* Marauders: 50 days
* Jump Portal Generation: 49 days
* Strategic Cruiser: 47 days
* Sovereignty: 42 days
* Command Ships: 41 days
* Tactical Logistics: 41 days

NoNah
Posted - 2009.09.20 03:48:00 - [2]
 

Love the project, but I have a hard time seeing that's an optimized plan. A good example is how you train the tier 1 learnings to 5, but do not train the first levels of the tier 2's, until you've trained Cybernetics 5. Even if cybernetics give +1.5 learning it's more than some 750 * 1.5 sp to train. =)

Also, you meantion +4 learning implants, being a three year project and all, wouldn't +5 be a reasonable assumtion?

Washell Olivaw
Posted - 2009.09.20 10:47:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Stainless Rat
at a cost of 29 billion ISK.


Originally by: Stainless Rat
assume +4 learning implants


I think it's safe to assume +5's and raise the cost to 29.5 billion.

Condylura cristata
Posted - 2009.09.20 12:24:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Condylura cristata on 20/09/2009 12:25:40
You should also plan for remaps every 12 months or so

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Good luck on finding the skill book

Other than that - good plan

Stainless Rat
Gallente
Hakata Group
Blade.
Posted - 2009.10.02 02:18:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: NoNah
Love the project, but I have a hard time seeing that's an optimized plan. A good example is how you train the tier 1 learnings to 5, but do not train the first levels of the tier 2's, until you've trained Cybernetics 5. Even if cybernetics give +1.5 learning it's more than some 750 * 1.5 sp to train. =)


Ahh, I train them after all the Memory and Int skills are done (almost, see below) which effect Cybernetics training. Then you have the full +5 boost for the rest of the learning skills which aren't Mem/Int based.

There's also some tinkering done to maximize the newbie 1.6 million SP boost. If you went straight from Eidetic Memory 5 to Learning 5 you'd lose almost 100K of it (though it probably doesn't mean squat).

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Also, you meantion +4 learning implants, being a three year project and all, wouldn't +5 be a reasonable assumtion?


I wasn't sure they actually exist given I didn't see any orders on eve-central. Seems I did do it with +5's. With +4's its 1380 days.

Originally by: Condylura cristata
You should also plan for remaps every 12 months or so


Yes, remaps were done I just forgot to include them. I'll fix that.


 

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