Edited by: Venkul Mul on 02/11/2009 11:04:16
Originally by: Ranger 1
Venkul Mul I haven't brought this to the level of personal insults, perhaps you should refrain from that.
Sorry to have been offensive but you really don't want to look the situation with the eyes of a new player.
I try to consider the balance starting with the point that the NPC corps
should work for the new players and if that allow old players alts or mains to "game" the system it is a necessary evil.
You try to balance it with from the point of view that old players (both main and alts) in NPC corps
should be nerfed and that it that damage new players it is a necessary evil.
Probably two totally opposite positions with no meeting point. Sometime your absolutist position and unwillingness to acknowledge the effect on new players grate my nerves, so the harsh reply.
For me someone 1 month old and running level 3 missions in a BC is a new player and should not be affected by the tax, for you the tax affecting a 1 week old character running level 2 mission in a cruiser is the right point to apply it.
Originally by: Ranger 1
Yes, access to information for the new player looking for a corp can be improved. I would suggest keeping your eye peeled for further information on New Eden. However it is difficult for new players not to find information on reputable starter player corps within the first few months of play even as things are now.
If you don't agree with that assessment, that's fine... difficult to believe, but fine.
Sigh, Q.E.D.
"find information on reputable starter player corps within the first few months"
That kind of griefing is done in the first few days/weeks, not months.
And the first few weeks are the point were EVE lose most new players I think.
Originally by: Ranger 1
I know what you are trying to say, but the fact remains that the number of new players that end up stumbling into a corp that recruits them to die is pretty low. How many healthy player corps are out there?
And how many of those healthy corps recruit noobs with less than 2-3 months of play from the NPC corps?
Originally by: Ranger 1
Open your eyes. The VAST majority of EVE players happily existing in player corps.
If you don't see that, I'm afraid you are deep in denial.
Curious then that CCP feel the need to push people in players corps.
If the VAST majority is already there and so happy they should be capable of convince the other players to join them.
Originally by: Asuri Kinnes
Originally by: Malcanis
38 pages is a lot of thread. Has a single person who was opposed to this tax become reconciled to it?
I'm becoming reconciled to it, in spite of the ham-handed and patently idiotic manner it was introduced.
Accepted it: yes.
Reconciled with something that will no work unless the goal is to get more 1 man corp? no.
Personally it will not touch me. All my characters have been in PC corps for most of their life. I have only 1 R&D car in a NPC corp over several accounts.
But it still irritate me as it is useless for the stated goal.
It is only a bit of salve for the ego of those that want more targets to wardec.
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