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Lt Shard
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.09.19 15:48:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Mutnin
Confirming that I will be collecting the tears tax..


Can I have some of those tasty tasty tears?

MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.09.19 15:50:00 - [32]
 

Again, if pain and suffering is what some of you are after there are plenty of pirate tears around. O wai... pirate emorages don't count, amirite? ugh

De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2009.09.19 15:58:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Again, if pain and suffering is what some of you are after there are plenty of pirate tears around. O wai... pirate emorages don't count, amirite? ugh


Count or not, they're funny.

Some Advisor
Posted - 2009.09.19 16:00:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Grimpak
HOLY ****! THE TEARS! THE ****ING TEARS!Twisted Evil


the new expansion has just become the bestest ever with this.



It was already the best ever with the 0.0 changes... but now this. And the faction ships. And the AF boost. And the supercap changes. There's almost too much awesome in this expansion. I'm approaching critical levels of awesome overload.

Be careful, CCP, because this expansion is really going to raise the bar of people's expectations for the next one. Incarna had better be goddamb fantastic.



...lacks ambulation... nuff said


;P of course its awesome :P
as usual.. maybe one day we get an unscheduled minipatch and suddenly we have ambulation ;)


....i still remember somewhere about "player controlled sentry guns" or somethign for 0.0 sov stuff

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2009.09.19 16:02:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Khemul Zula
Originally by: Gunnanmon
Quick, every player corp change your tax to 100% for a bit.
Already doing my part to throw off the average. Twisted Evil

Pfft, I've been throwing the average off in the opposite direction for years Twisted Evil

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
Posted - 2009.09.19 16:12:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Again, if pain and suffering is what some of you are after there are plenty of pirate tears around. O wai... pirate emorages don't count, amirite? ugh


All tears count, but since you are tied to your perspective, you can't enjoy them all. Some tears feel more justified then others and sometimes you shead the tears instead of drinking them, but whatever happens the game goes on.

Michwich
Posted - 2009.09.19 16:14:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Again, if pain and suffering is what some of you are after there are plenty of pirate tears around. O wai... pirate emorages don't count, amirite? ugh



Hey easy, some people are really low on tears due to losing them all in real life, so let the emo ***gots drink their tears here. Better then in RL where theyd be serial raging in our neighbourhoods, but damn it would be so easy to pwn them there, why CCP insists on tieing our hands behind our backs to fight these losers is beyond me. Maybe they are ones themselves? I But there isnt enough tears emo ***gots can drink to replace the ones they lose on a daily basis unfortunately. Let them drink.YARRRR!!

Caelum Mortuos
Gallente
Zero G Research and Development
Posted - 2009.09.19 16:47:00 - [38]
 

oh lord, fantastic!

In before the ****storm Shocked

Jen Khai
Black Hawk Down Syndrome
Posted - 2009.09.19 16:55:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Grimpak
HOLY ****! THE TEARS! THE ****ING TEARS!Twisted Evil


the new expansion has just become the bestest ever with this.



It was already the best ever with the 0.0 changes... but now this. And the faction ships. And the AF boost. And the supercap changes. There's almost too much awesome in this expansion. I'm approaching critical levels of awesome overload.

Be careful, CCP, because this expansion is really going to raise the bar of people's expectations for the next one. Incarna had better be goddamb fantastic.


What's incarna?

Faife
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2009.09.19 16:56:00 - [40]
 

it's a good thing. it'll get people to join 5% player corps to make more money and actually fly in groups.

as a bonus, they'll learn about intermediate level eve skills like remote repping and war dec corp hopping

Kerfira
Kerfira Corp
Posted - 2009.09.19 17:00:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Faife
it's a good thing. it'll get people to join 5% player corps to make more money and actually fly in groups.

No, it won't!

A few people might jump into one-man corp (ready to make a new one if wardec'ed), another few into 'real' corp. The large majority of NPC players will most likely stay in NPC corp.

Frankly spoken, since only a relative small part of a mission runners income is taxed (30-50% depending on how you run the missions), we're looking at a maximum of about 5% effective tax. I think most people are willing to pay that to avoid wardec's....

Lexa Hellfury
Immortal.
Posted - 2009.09.19 17:10:00 - [42]
 

And how hard is it to make a 1-man corp?

Dramaan
Posted - 2009.09.19 17:10:00 - [43]
 

Edited by: Dramaan on 19/09/2009 17:12:27



Some Advisor
Posted - 2009.09.19 17:31:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Lexa Hellfury
And how hard is it to make a 1-man corp?

very...
you need to learn 1 or 2 skills in corp management *GASP* and even social stuff maybe
carebears wont like it :>

fuze
Gallente
Quam Singulari
Posted - 2009.09.19 17:42:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Lexa Hellfury
And how hard is it to make a 1-man corp?

How hard is it to dec a 1-man corp?

Andrest Disch
Amarr
Debitum Naturae
Posted - 2009.09.19 17:52:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: fuze
Originally by: Lexa Hellfury
And how hard is it to make a 1-man corp?

How hard is it to dec a 1-man corp?


How hard is it to disband and reform your one man corp every time it gets decced?


ceaon
Posted - 2009.09.19 17:54:00 - [47]
 

Edited by: ceaon on 19/09/2009 17:54:24
Originally by: Lexa Hellfury
And how hard is it to make a 1-man corp?

now CCP only have to make 100m tax to make a corporation LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing

edit: also add some skill to lvl 5 LaughingLaughingLaughing

Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups
Posted - 2009.09.19 18:07:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Faife

as a bonus, they'll learn about intermediate level eve skills like remote repping and war dec corp hopping


lol

SKUNK

Furb Killer
Gallente
Posted - 2009.09.19 18:09:00 - [49]
 

Oh great exactly what eve needs, getting more risk-free pvpers wardeccing rookies.

Frug
Omega Wing
Snatch Victory
Posted - 2009.09.19 18:10:00 - [50]
 

\Very Happy/

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2009.09.19 18:18:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Furb Killer
Oh great exactly what eve needs, getting more risk-free pvpers wardeccing rookies.


Exactly.

Karlemgne
Tides Of War
Posted - 2009.09.19 18:19:00 - [52]
 

Epic. LaughingLaughing

Kaar
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2009.09.19 18:21:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Furb Killer
risk-free pvpers


kk

Haakelen
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2009.09.19 18:22:00 - [54]
 

I had to read the OP about three times. It's kinda hard wrapping my head around the words "CCP devs" and "great decisions", but thankfully it looks like I'll have to get used to it.

Three cheers for the devs! Now, just implement a corp refining tax. Cool

Marcel Resnais
Posted - 2009.09.19 18:37:00 - [55]
 

Sounds pretty good to me. 11% isn't that much and hi-sec mission running is already grossly out of whack. This won't make it unprofitable, but it might encourage some hi-sec npc corp people to jump into player corp to make a little extra isk.

I'm curious as to whether this will be applied to Faction Warfare militias as well. I can see it going both ways. On the one hand, people in FW corps cannot be war decced. On the other, there is a kind of permanent "war dec" in relation to other FW corps. Should be interesting to hear the details as they develop.

James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2009.09.19 18:39:00 - [56]
 

11% is an excellent number, because it's prime - therefore there will never be round numbers dropping in the wallet.

And it's enough to make it worth forming your own corp, without actually being particularly crippling - anything that encourages people to group up is a good thing IMO.

Furb Killer
Gallente
Posted - 2009.09.19 18:40:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Kaar
Originally by: Furb Killer
risk-free pvpers


kk

Considering i notice sarcasm:
How large do you think the risk is for a bunch of abaddons with neutral guardian support to camp rookies in station?

Kerfira
Kerfira Corp
Posted - 2009.09.19 18:47:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Marcel Resnais
This won't make it unprofitable, but it might encourage some hi-sec npc corp people to jump into player corp to make a little extra isk.

By my calculations, it'll drop my L4 income from 52.2m/hour to 50.4m/hour....

People may create a one-man corp, but they'll drop from it as soon as the first wardec comes in, and probably not bother making another one.

Question: Can't one-man corp be dissolved instantly without the 24-hour waiting period?


Ekeim
Posted - 2009.09.19 19:18:00 - [59]
 

I doubt there would be much danger of wardecs if the npc corp players all split off and formed their own one man corps. Given wardec costs, it would be economically unfeasible for corps to dec a significant number of them.

Using one man corps to get around tax is kind of a hackish, fighting against the mechanics not with them, sort of solution - already enough of them in game as it is.

IMO, they should focus on giving players a reason to want to join up with others. This solution doesn't do that; it just makes them not want to be in an NPC corp.

Lui Kai
Better Than You
Posted - 2009.09.19 19:27:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Kerfira

Question: Can't one-man corp be dissolved instantly without the 24-hour waiting period?




Yes.


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