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Burning Horizon nul-li-fy Atlas.	Posted - 2009.09.19 14:22:00 - [1] Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia Edited by: CCP Eris Discordia on 19/09/2009 13:22:14 It's not in the sisi patch notes because I don't know how to edit them, I think I have to mail them to someone who has access to it and then it is edited in. This hasn't been properly set up yet but for the next sisi update I think there will be more and more accurate notes ( at least from me) It's a change meant to encourage people to join a player corporation and ofcourse concord needs to pay wages to their pilots on a regular basis Oh we came to 11% after researching what the average tax was in player corporations, the NPC tax is a little bit above that average. Looks like those isk farmers in Npc corps are getting a nerf Source
Khemul Zula Amarr Keisen Trade League	Posted - 2009.09.19 14:25:00 - [2] Note to self, take a forum vacation before patch-day.
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2009.09.19 14:27:00 - [3] I love the fact they used 11% as tax rate instead of the standard 10%. 11% for wardec immunity sounds fine to me and it's only a nerf to mission/ratting bounty income anyway, so industry and trade alts are unaffected.
Irida Mershkov Gallente The Reformed Chaos Theory Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.19 14:28:00 - [4] Now raise it to 50%. I WANT REAL TEARS CCP. REAAAAAAAAAAAAAL TEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARS! Commencing forum ****down in 5... 4... 3... (timefluxdetected).. 1..
Gunnanmon Gallente PURPLE.	Posted - 2009.09.19 14:31:00 - [5] Quick, every player corp change your tax to 100% for a bit.
Grimpak Gallente Midnight Elites Echelon Rising	Posted - 2009.09.19 14:33:00 - [6] HOLY **! THE TEARS! THE **ING TEARS! the new expansion has just become the bestest ever with this.
Celeritas 5k Connoisseurs of Candid Coitus	Posted - 2009.09.19 14:34:00 - [7] Or add an 11% tax to all sell orders as well...
baltec1	Posted - 2009.09.19 14:36:00 - [8] CCP Eris Discordia deserves a beer from every player!
Grimpak Gallente Midnight Elites Echelon Rising	Posted - 2009.09.19 14:43:00 - [9] Originally by: baltec1 CCP Eris Discordia deserves a beer from every player! better yet, a keg.
Troll Bridgington Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2009.09.19 14:44:00 - [10] I can't wait for this expansion...
Caiman Graystock Caldari Cornelius Starship and Computer Design	Posted - 2009.09.19 14:45:00 - [11] Dominion is shaping up to be possibly the BEST expansion yet?
Khemul Zula Amarr Keisen Trade League	Posted - 2009.09.19 14:47:00 - [12] Originally by: Gunnanmon Quick, every player corp change your tax to 100% for a bit. Already doing my part to throw off the average.
Skalet	Posted - 2009.09.19 14:48:00 - [13] and the people rejoiced
Malcanis Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.09.19 14:52:00 - [14] Originally by: Grimpak HOLY **! THE TEARS! THE **ING TEARS! the new expansion has just become the bestest ever with this. It was already the best ever with the 0.0 changes... but now this. And the faction ships. And the AF boost. And the supercap changes. There's almost too much awesome in this expansion. I'm approaching critical levels of awesome overload. Be careful, CCP, because this expansion is really going to raise the bar of people's expectations for the next one. Incarna had better be goddamb fantastic.
Troll Bridgington Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2009.09.19 14:53:00 - [15] Maybe CCP *does* listen after all...
Dasola Minmatar	Posted - 2009.09.19 15:01:00 - [16] now i would just love to see hove much those npc corps actually make throw this tax. Hope they keep records unlike real goverments that seems to lose money without knowing where it gone.
Tippia Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2009.09.19 15:08:00 - [17] Originally by: Gunnanmon Quick, every player corp change your tax to 100% for a bit. Good plan, but how would that work? For every 100 ISK they would have earned, 1 is removed form their wallets?
Gunnanmon Gallente PURPLE.	Posted - 2009.09.19 15:15:00 - [18] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Gunnanmon Quick, every player corp change your tax to 100% for a bit. Good plan, but how would that work? For every 100 ISK they would have earned, 1 is removed form their wallets? Or every isk is removed, depends on your definition of 100% tax :P
Kerfira Kerfira Corp	Posted - 2009.09.19 15:17:00 - [19] This'll actually not matter all that much for mission runners..... According to my statistics, taxable ISK income from L4 missions is 31% of the total you can earn. The rest comes from LP, loot and salvage. This means that for a mission runner, the 11% will actually be an effective tax of 3.41%. Not really that high a cost for wardec immunity.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.09.19 15:19:00 - [20] Originally by: Kerfira This'll actually not matter all that much for mission runners..... According to my statistics, taxable ISK income from L4 missions is 31% of the total you can earn. The rest comes from LP, loot and salvage. This means that for a mission runner, the 11% will actually be an effective tax of 3.41%. Not really that high a cost for wardec immunity. Not entirely true. That assumes that you are looting and salvaging. Many times, believe it or not, you can make more isk/hour without salvaging all together, and only looting choice wrecks when you have time.
Gunnanmon Gallente PURPLE.	Posted - 2009.09.19 15:20:00 - [21] Originally by: Kerfira This'll actually not matter all that much for mission runners..... According to my statistics, taxable ISK income from L4 missions is 31% of the total you can earn. The rest comes from LP, loot and salvage. This means that for a mission runner, the 11% will actually be an effective tax of 3.41%. Not really that high a cost for wardec immunity. True or not, it's still fodder for teh whiners. So it will prolly matter more than it actually does,if you know what I mean.
Malcanis Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.09.19 15:21:00 - [22] Originally by: Kerfira This'll actually not matter all that much for mission runners..... According to my statistics, taxable ISK income from L4 missions is 31% of the total you can earn. The rest comes from LP, loot and salvage. This means that for a mission runner, the 11% will actually be an effective tax of 3.41%. Not really that high a cost for wardec immunity. Maybe so, but it will at least strongly incentivise looting and salvaging and LP over the wholly non-competitive pure ISK making component of mission income. This means that the PvP part of mission income is made more attractive. Also, it's counter inflationary (more stuff created, less ISK created). Let the ninja salvage whines begin.
Kerfira Kerfira Corp	Posted - 2009.09.19 15:22:00 - [23] Edited by: Kerfira on 19/09/2009 15:30:34 Originally by: Blane Xero Not entirely true. That assumes that you are looting and salvaging. Many times, believe it or not, you can make more isk/hour without salvaging all together, and only looting choice wrecks when you have time. True... However, even if it goes up to 5% or so effective tax, I still think it is cheap It'll also change the 'when-is-it-worth-salvaging/looting' equation slightly.... Originally by: Malcanis Maybe so, but it will at least strongly incentivise looting and salvaging and LP over the wholly non-competitive pure ISK making component of mission income. I think 'strongly' is too big a word.... 'nudge' is probably more apt... Originally by: Malcanis Also, it's counter inflationary (more stuff created, less ISK created). I don't actually think this is what is needed! Minerals are hitting the artificial 'floor' under mineral prices set by insurance, which indicates that there are in fact too MANY minerals in the game and not enough ISK. Salvage is also going down, though it'll still take a while before we know where it'll settle after the rig changes.
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2009.09.19 15:22:00 - [24] It's a fair change. Good IMO. BTW, Originally by: Grimpak HOLY **! THE TEARS! THE **ING TEARS! the new expansion has just become the bestest ever with this. If tears is what you're looking for, check out GD and Assembly Hall. Plenty of tears there due to recent scanner changes, unless of course pirate tears don't count .
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.09.19 15:24:00 - [25] Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 It's a fair change. Good IMO. BTW, Originally by: Grimpak HOLY **! THE TEARS! THE **ING TEARS! the new expansion has just become the bestest ever with this. If tears is what you're looking for, check out GD and Assembly Hall. Plenty of tears there due to recent scanner changes, unless of course pirate tears don't count . Why am i the only non-pirate who hates the scanner changes
Jowen Datloran Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.09.19 15:30:00 - [26] Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 19/09/2009 15:32:45 Ohnoes! Need a market alt in a one man corp to sell my stuff. Wait. I got 3 of those already. Phew... EDIT: And the reason for not putting it in the patch notes... it is not like this would be the first time where CCP implements hugely unpopular changes and "forgetting" to put it in the patch notes.
Malcanis Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.09.19 15:33:00 - [27] Originally by: Jowen Datloran Ohnoes! Need a market alt in a one man corp to sell my stuff. Wait. I got 3 of those already. Phew... Corp tax doesn't apply to market activity.
Jowen Datloran Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.09.19 15:36:00 - [28] Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 19/09/2009 15:35:56 Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Jowen Datloran Ohnoes! Need a market alt in a one man corp to sell my stuff. Wait. I got 3 of those already. Phew... Corp tax doesn't apply to market activity. Dang, no reason to leave STI at all then.
Benwah Empire Arms Dealers	Posted - 2009.09.19 15:40:00 - [29] Originally by: Jowen Datloran Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 19/09/2009 15:32:45 Ohnoes! Need a market alt in a one man corp to sell my stuff. Wait. I got 3 of those already. Phew... EDIT: And the reason for not putting it in the patch notes... it is not like this would be the first time where CCP implements hugely unpopular changes and "forgetting" to put it in the patch notes. Why would you need market alts in one man corps? The tax only applies to mission rewards and bounties. Also, I don't think this idea will be unpopular. More carebears in player corps = more fun Come and get it
Mutnin Amarr Mutineers	Posted - 2009.09.19 15:43:00 - [30] Confirming that I will be collecting the tears tax..

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