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Windryder
Posted - 2009.11.22 22:54:00 - [541]
 

Edited by: Windryder on 22/11/2009 22:57:35
I had a dream.

It was about EvE.

A Titan hot-drops into a fleet battle because the enemy has capital supremacy and their fighters are tearing the blue battleships apart. It starts-up its massive array of gang-warfare links and the advanced computing power, direct neural interface and powerful field generators on the Titan flood the fleet boosters with a magnitude of extra power for their mindlinks. The fleet rallies around the Titan, its presence giving them hope against the 2:1 odds.

The Erebus fires-up it's direct-fire DD and vapourises a hapless carrier that was stationary. Friendly carriers start remote cap transferring and after a minute the DD goes off again. Because the Dread exited seige and got up to 50m/s it is barely scratched by the DD's power and limps across the battlefield aflame, leaving a trail of debris. Support carriers rush to put out the fires and shore-up it's ailing defences while AFs and HACs swarm in for the kill.

The cry goes out over comms "Cyno on grid! Cyno on grid" and a Leviathan lands on the battlefield. It instantly enters Titan Siege Mode and a POS shield goes-up around it, enveloping it's allies and protecting them from harm - but also taking them from the battle.

In response the Erebus sieges, and a POS-like shield goes up too. Its DD fires on the Leviathan. A solid hit that removes a chunk of its shields. Reflected energy cascades off the Leviathan's shields and the explosion vaporises sub-capitals nearby. Carriers on both sides start broadcasting for repairs as they take major damage. The nearby control tower registers the hit and modules blink offline as the structures shake. Sub-caps rush for the safety of the Titans shields with logistics desperately trying to rescue the crippled and raise the dead. Pods flee for the carriers and heavy carriers - the safety of a fresh hull and the chance to fight back.

The Leviathan fires back, denting the Erebus' siege shields. The massive gravitronic shockwave reflects off the shields and rips nearby ships apart. Pods a hundred kms away are shredded, interceptors are thrown off course and their MWDs burn-out from the distortion of space-time. Targetting locks are broken and the hardier sub-capitals survive but with heat damage to their modules.

Dreads tank the damage well and start responding once more to the FCs' primaries. Carriers lurk on the edge of the siege shields repping friendlies and each other. Every few minutes a DD fires and the sub-caps conducting hit-and-run assaults on carriers either scamper for cover or go down in flames.

When the Titans take the field, it eclipses even the Gods.

Le Cardinal
Spricer
Raiden.
Posted - 2009.11.23 12:02:00 - [542]
 

Personally i think that CCP admitting they was a bit hasty on supercarriers is a good thing. With all the negative feedback on SC's they at least deserve a thumbs up for listening to the community this time.

Above poster: Nice "story" :) Actually the idea of Titans as mobile pos's would be cool. That would completely redefine their role on the battlefield.

Zerakix
Minmatar
The White Mantle
Posted - 2009.11.26 15:55:00 - [543]
 

Originally by: Windryder
Edited by: Windryder on 22/11/2009 22:57:35
I had a dream.

It was about EvE.

A Titan hot-drops into a fleet battle because the enemy has capital supremacy and their fighters are tearing the blue battleships apart. It starts-up its massive array of gang-warfare links and the advanced computing power, direct neural interface and powerful field generators on the Titan flood the fleet boosters with a magnitude of extra power for their mindlinks. The fleet rallies around the Titan, its presence giving them hope against the 2:1 odds.

The Erebus fires-up it's direct-fire DD and vapourises a hapless carrier that was stationary. Friendly carriers start remote cap transferring and after a minute the DD goes off again. Because the Dread exited seige and got up to 50m/s it is barely scratched by the DD's power and limps across the battlefield aflame, leaving a trail of debris. Support carriers rush to put out the fires and shore-up it's ailing defences while AFs and HACs swarm in for the kill.

The cry goes out over comms "Cyno on grid! Cyno on grid" and a Leviathan lands on the battlefield. It instantly enters Titan Siege Mode and a POS shield goes-up around it, enveloping it's allies and protecting them from harm - but also taking them from the battle.

In response the Erebus sieges, and a POS-like shield goes up too. Its DD fires on the Leviathan. A solid hit that removes a chunk of its shields. Reflected energy cascades off the Leviathan's shields and the explosion vaporises sub-capitals nearby. Carriers on both sides start broadcasting for repairs as they take major damage. The nearby control tower registers the hit and modules blink offline as the structures shake. Sub-caps rush for the safety of the Titans shields with logistics desperately trying to rescue the crippled and raise the dead. Pods flee for the carriers and heavy carriers - the safety of a fresh hull and the chance to fight back.

The Leviathan fires back, denting the Erebus' siege shields. The massive gravitronic shockwave reflects off the shields and rips nearby ships apart. Pods a hundred kms away are shredded, interceptors are thrown off course and their MWDs burn-out from the distortion of space-time. Targetting locks are broken and the hardier sub-capitals survive but with heat damage to their modules.

Dreads tank the damage well and start responding once more to the FCs' primaries. Carriers lurk on the edge of the siege shields repping friendlies and each other. Every few minutes a DD fires and the sub-caps conducting hit-and-run assaults on carriers either scamper for cover or go down in flames.

When the Titans take the field, it eclipses even the Gods.


This would be epic...

James Detair
Posted - 2009.11.27 03:45:00 - [544]
 

Edited by: James Detair on 27/11/2009 04:04:08
I cant speak for everyone here but all i can say is I'm furious that my skilling to perfect my dread is now worthless... I can get use out of the drone skills in other ships but looking at Dread 5 hm don't see anything other than the Moros that the particular skill went for giving my 250% drone dmg bonus for. Seeing as i dont often have the luxury of being bored out of my mind to go into sieged. I now have a overpriced domi with a big target sign stamped on it...
I know im rambling but seriously this particular nerf makes me furious. Going from being good at something to being just another is ridiculous in sieged it's not #1 in tanking or DPS anyways so taking away the drones dps and HP makes it what....... Balanced i think not.

P.S.
May as well train another toon for a nag seeing as the Moros is much less desirable now...

killing the drones of the moros was an effective way to drop the dps.

Andreas Kallesoee
Celestial Horizon Corp.
United Corporate Ventures
Posted - 2009.11.27 18:17:00 - [545]
 

CCP can you please remove any referenc to the Fighter bombers and Supercarrier upgrades from the Dev blog as you have aprently sc****d the changes from dominion.

Thank you in advance......

okay who are taking bets wheather or not this will be changed before the first ?

shalai
Posted - 2009.11.30 05:43:00 - [546]
 

I like most of the ideas that came up here, except for Super Carrier or mothership nerf.

One big problem: What do CCP do with all those 1000 pilots and corps that built one or several motherships for 20bill if reducing its pricetag to 10bill ? This is a huge problem. People spent alot of time researching, mining for that mothership.

The mothership is fine as it is, but it need a role. Therefore I see the role as a rescue station in space with a deployable shield.

It can be done like keeping a pos in its stomach and fuel, then link the POS to the siege module to deploy shield. Once siege link with POS is active, it runs for 10 min each cycle and ship cannot move.

A 200km buffer towards any anchored objects like station or stargate has to apply, as getting too close is a I win mechanics.

This allows fellow pilots to get inside shield, having normal carriers outside shield to rep any inside and get back into the fight.

If shield is shut down, the mothership and linked POS will go into reinforced, having the pilot logging out keeps the ship reinforced until fuel is out. This allows corp mates or alliance time enough to gather to save the ship.

This mechanic puts the mothership straight into battlefield where its supposed to be.

Daelin Felagund
Caldari
ShadowRun LLC
Disciples of Crom
Posted - 2009.11.30 15:11:00 - [547]
 

Originally by: shalai
One big problem: What do CCP do with all those 1000 pilots and corps that built one or several motherships for 20bill if reducing its pricetag to 10bill ? This is a huge problem. People spent alot of time researching, mining for that mothership.

"What does CCP do?" Why nothing, of course! EVE is a cold place, and CCP simply does not care because they do not believe they have to. (Never mind things like mission statements and so forth as are published on their home site.)

Trust me, I feel the exact same way wrt to my Phoenix based on what I've seen hereabouts, albeit that is not nearly the resource expenditure as MS pilots have.

I am curious about one thing, tho. The new Patch Notes - which I read most carefully, last night - do not seem to say anything about dreadnoughts which Nozh's devblog indicated was going to happen (save for corrections to the bonuses on the Phoenix and the Nag). Did they sneak the language into the notes in such a manner as to avoid notice?

Final note to CCP Hammerhead (and really all CCP personnel): Speaking as a former customer service professional in r/l, CCP's customer service is once again dramatically failing both publicly and visibly here, in the worst possible manner. You never, ever, under ANY circumstances allow the people who are paying for your livelihood to simply eat silence in response to their bringing forth genuine issues to you. Especially not in so public a manner. This is how you destroy your company - slowly, if you are so fortunate, but inevitably nonetheless. It's understood you are busy; but that simply is no excuse for not taking a moment - or delegating to someone (who should be wisely chosen) to take that moment - to brief your customers and conduct diplomatic correspondence at the absolute minimum. It does not have to be terribly long or involved, necessarily; but it DOES have to exist.

This is another reason why "customer service" is often called "customer care" - if you (CCP) don't care for your customer, how long do you suppose your customer will continue to care for you? Just a thought ...Idea

Future Mutant
Republic Military School
Posted - 2009.11.30 18:20:00 - [548]
 

Originally by: Daelin Felagund
Originally by: shalai
One big problem: What do CCP do with all those 1000 pilots and corps that built one or several motherships for 20bill if reducing its pricetag to 10bill ? This is a huge problem. People spent alot of time researching, mining for that mothership.

"What does CCP do?" Why nothing, of course! EVE is a cold place, and CCP simply does not care because they do not believe they have to. (Never mind things like mission statements and so forth as are published on their home site.)

Trust me, I feel the exact same way wrt to my Phoenix based on what I've seen hereabouts, albeit that is not nearly the resource expenditure as MS pilots have.

I am curious about one thing, tho. The new Patch Notes - which I read most carefully, last night - do not seem to say anything about dreadnoughts which Nozh's devblog indicated was going to happen (save for corrections to the bonuses on the Phoenix and the Nag). Did they sneak the language into the notes in such a manner as to avoid notice?

Final note to CCP Hammerhead (and really all CCP personnel): Speaking as a former customer service professional in r/l, CCP's customer service is once again dramatically failing both publicly and visibly here, in the worst possible manner. You never, ever, under ANY circumstances allow the people who are paying for your livelihood to simply eat silence in response to their bringing forth genuine issues to you. Especially not in so public a manner. This is how you destroy your company - slowly, if you are so fortunate, but inevitably nonetheless. It's understood you are busy; but that simply is no excuse for not taking a moment - or delegating to someone (who should be wisely chosen) to take that moment - to brief your customers and conduct diplomatic correspondence at the absolute minimum. It does not have to be terribly long or involved, necessarily; but it DOES have to exist.

This is another reason why "customer service" is often called "customer care" - if you (CCP) don't care for your customer, how long do you suppose your customer will continue to care for you? Just a thought ...Idea


The thought of the smallest population in eve not being catered to would lead to the "downfall of eve" is amusing really.

If i worked for ccp and had to put up with the ppl who have posted their whines in this thread- first thing id do is permaban anyone that was belligerent and/or insulting.

Seriously some of you need to take a step back, take a deep breath, and realize this is a game. A game you dont run btw. If you want total control of a game- feel free to design one.

Daelin Felagund
Caldari
ShadowRun LLC
Disciples of Crom
Posted - 2009.12.01 14:57:00 - [549]
 

Originally by: Future Mutant
The thought of the smallest population in eve not being catered to would lead to the "downfall of eve" is amusing really.

First, I seriously doubt it's the "smallest population." Secondly, you're ignorant of the fact it is one of the longest-term loyal ones.

But this aside, if all you are seeing is the mistaken notion that the customer service issue spoken of only exists in this capital ship topic, then you are sadly myopic to the fact that CCP's customer service is dramatically failing quite broadly aside from the poor job they've done on this singular issue. It is in fact wider than that.

I have personal experience of customer service issues leading directly to the downfall of a company (look up the VOIP provider ZingoTel, if you are so led); and service provided at that company was honestly more conscientiously and personally provided there than at CCP. Do not believe for a moment that poor service cannot harm and even bring down such entities.

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If i worked for ccp and had to put up with the ppl who have posted their whines in this thread- first thing id do is permaban anyone that was belligerent and/or insulting.

Now you are being irrational. I understand how such a foolish reaction might be satisfactory to certain parties, at times; I've been there. But the only thing this would serve to do is compound your already serious customer service problem with an even more poorly considered and hot-headed response. It is FAIL of the highest order, where customer service is considered.

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Seriously some of you need to take a step back, take a deep breath, and realize this is a game. A game you dont run btw. If you want total control of a game- feel free to design one.

You have somewhat of a point, here, in the original sentence. (The rest is simply more foolishness regurgitated.) All parties do need to calm down and seriously consider the issues involved without the emotional trappings. Very hard to do, but necessary for a substantial solution to be found.

Darius Nikano
Posted - 2009.12.02 02:11:00 - [550]
 

I'm not all that clued up on capital ships in general, so I'm not sure how these changes are affecting people, but one thing. The fighter bombers look great, and I'm glad they've been added in, even if just for aesthetics. Please CCP make the fighter bombers pilotable for players, I so want to fly around in one of those >_<


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