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Louis deGuerre
Gallente
Malevolence.
Posted - 2009.09.09 15:37:00 - [91]
 

EVE is a mirror to real life as usual Razz
Gotta say I found the whole 'I'm just a guy, you'd have acted just like me, hell why not vote for me again' pretty disgusting.
As a matter of fact...*BARFS*

Eefel
The Littlest Hobos
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2009.09.09 15:42:00 - [92]
 

Dunno what you guys are saying, but I would vote for lark again. Especially after the recent events!

He is exactly what eve needs!

Sanitorium Lady
Posted - 2009.09.09 16:26:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: Eefel
Dunno what you guys are saying, but I would vote for lark again. Especially after the recent events!

He is exactly what eve needs!


Eve needs people that ruins the game for he's own profit ?!?

Just let me ask you this , if Lark didnt get caught ,
should be fair for other people ingame what he was doing ?


Resign from the CSM was the best thing he could do !
Get back that position knowing he can act against ccp rules again
dosent seems to be a good idea .


Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente
The Crane Family
Posted - 2009.09.09 16:48:00 - [94]
 

Originally by: Sanitorium Lady
Originally by: Eefel
Dunno what you guys are saying, but I would vote for lark again. Especially after the recent events!

He is exactly what eve needs!


Eve needs people that ruins the game for he's own profit ?!?

Just let me ask you this , if Lark didnt get caught ,
should be fair for other people ingame what he was doing ?


Resign from the CSM was the best thing he could do !
Get back that position knowing he can act against ccp rules again
dosent seems to be a good idea.



This is nothing to get all butthurt about. The dude got drunk, did a stupid thing, got caught immediately, and was kicked from his holiday party, and banned for his troubles. That's it. Nothing to make a lot of hoopla about.

Now little miss substitute gets a bit uppity because she missed out on her holiday trip. Fine, be all uptight about it. By the way you're going on, I'll doubt you'll get enough votes even if you are allowed to run again.

For the rest, take comfort in the fact that the system, as flawed as it is, seems to work.

Jebus ...

Wemo
Caldari
Guerrilla Cartel
INVICTUS ALLIANCE
Posted - 2009.09.09 17:10:00 - [95]
 

The Scorpion and the Frog

A scorpion asks a frog to carry him across a river. The frog is afraid of being stung, but the scorpion reassures him that if it stung the frog, the frog would sink and the scorpion would drown as well. The frog then agrees; nevertheless, in mid-river, the scorpion stings him, dooming the two of them. When asked why, the scorpion explains, "I'm a scorpion; it's my nature."

I voted for you boss and I'd do it again.



Hiro Cephalus
Posted - 2009.09.09 17:20:00 - [96]
 

Originally by: Serenity Steele
As for Adam Ridgway (aka Larkonis Trassler); you're a disgrace and unworthy of the responsibility of CSM, let alone your own signature on an NDA. I hope you're name is quickly forgotten.


If anything, his name should, and must, be remembered. Through this debate, we are skirting round the one true issue here.

It was not Larkonis Trassler who broke the NDA and exploited his role in the CSM. It was Adam Ridgway.

He signed a legally binding Non Disclosure Agreement.

He broke this agreement, by using his role in the CSM to further his own ends.

He was caught doing it. And only then was he apologetic.

He posted on Scrapheap Challenge after this apology, referring to such market manipulation as 'Jew Trading'. Clearly alluding to offensive anti-semitic stereotypes.

He also posted a degrading comment in the same thread about the prospect of 'spit-roasting' an Icelandic native, all while being supposedly apologetic.

Recruiting employers are not dumb people, and routinely search for applicant names on Google. A search for him will reveal him to be an untrustworthy applicant, incapable of fulfilling the obligations of any future contract, as well as having issues with regards females and those of the jewish faith.



The internet has a long memory.


Zex Maxwell
Caldari
Posted - 2009.09.09 17:21:00 - [97]
 

Originally by: Adam Ridgway
I will be allowed to run for another term in the future if I so desire.


Please tell me that this is not true. for his little **** up, He shouldn't be allowed to run for CSM. Who says that he wouldn't try this again?

UfoTRADER
Relentless Technologies
Quod Erat Demonstrandum
Posted - 2009.09.09 17:35:00 - [98]
 

While I agree this act was bad, but I have to scratch my head. Look at the huge swings in pricing of numerous items when the new CSM group came into office. I specifically noticed a 600% increase in the number of Titans being raffled/sold. Am I the only one that's wondering why no research has been done to find out who leaked this out to the large Alliances? Seems interesting that the NDA all CSM's signed appears to be of little importance.

There now is a rabbit hole, so is anyone going to do research as to how deep it goes?



Serenity Steele
Dynamic Data Distribution
Posted - 2009.09.09 19:07:00 - [99]
 

Originally by: Hiro Cephalus
He signed a legally binding Non Disclosure Agreement.

He broke this agreement, by using his role in the CSM to further his own ends.

He was caught doing it. And only then was he apologetic.

....



Very valid and good points Hiro. I should have been more explicit, that any (previous) accomplishments are forgotten within the EVE universe. Long live the memory of the Internet!


De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2009.09.09 19:12:00 - [100]
 

Edited by: De''Veldrin on 09/09/2009 19:15:20
I posted this in the assembly hall, forum, but as this seems to be the "official" thread for these comments, I'll repeat myself.

1. All of Larkonis Trassler accounts should be permanently banned, the characters deleted from the system, and the resources associated with those characters expunged from the EVE universe. Because I'm in a good mood, I won't recommend disbanding any organization he is the CEO/executor of.

2. The current CSM needs to substantially and publically distance themselves from these actions, or risk removal from office. No one backpedals faster than a politician who might lose office because the guy "who bought me a drink" screwed the pooch.

3. Failure in step 2 should result in the disbanding of the current CSM due to a lack of confidence in their ability to actually keep to their real life agreements. Forget the damned ISK, the man violated a legal binding agreement to try and get ahead a little, and has been patentedly unremorseful about the whole thing; his "apology" is Socratic at best. The CSM can either be replaced from the current ranks of backups, or a special election could be held to replace them.

Unfortunately for the rest of us what Adam did will not end here - it will cause future concerns over the viability of the CSM process. There will now always be doubts that the members of the CSM are simply using that position to enrich themselves and their friends, though the ultimate act of meta gaming, unless the current CSM and CCP act to put a halt to those doubts.

Pat McCrotch
Posted - 2009.09.09 19:41:00 - [101]
 

I saw the title of the blog and I knew it was Larkonis.... that is why I voted 3 times and will vote 3 times more if he runs again.

Funny that CCP wants the Corp and Alliance models to mimic that of the real world by allowing espionage and treason, yet when it actually hits their real world model, they cry foul.

Oh the irony!!!!

He is a great mind who knows how to think outside of the box. He would be an asset to any enterprising business or business venture. He is merely a viictim of his own intelligence and should not be punished for doing exactly what has helped to put EVE on the REAL WORLD map. You are my hero.

Abrazzar
Posted - 2009.09.09 19:50:00 - [102]
 

Anything below a permanent ban of lark and all associated accounts is merely a invitation to future CSM members to try such stunts in much larger scale. Dropping legal action should be the only leniency in this incident.

A 30 day ban is a laughable slap on the wrist for a blatant breach of trust between the CSM and CCP and a permanently staining of the trustworthiness of the CSM.

There can be no tolerance for this.Evil or Very Mad

VCBee 516
Posted - 2009.09.09 20:10:00 - [103]
 

ITT CCP holds CSM delegates to more accountability than their own employees.

Machine Delta
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.09.09 20:18:00 - [104]
 

All the corrupt goonies should be banned from the CSM for insider Neodymium trading.

Dasfry
Caldari
Demio's Corporation
United Stellar Alliance
Posted - 2009.09.09 20:21:00 - [105]
 

Twisted Evil Natural Human greed strikes again!

Wotcher Renyolds
Posted - 2009.09.09 20:21:00 - [106]
 

the idiots at ccp are apparently banning people for posting what this was despite that everyone with half a brain already figured it out because they gave the exact time and isk amount, and once someone figured that out the market in jita rapidly emptied out

I have no inside information but literally anyone can figure out at this point the product is one or both of the unused r64s and that was so obviously it that it was the first thing I checked when I wanted to find out what the material at issue was

just publish the damn devblog already about it since the cat is already out of the bag, I'll make it simple : "we realized the faulty way we designed the moon mining system made two r64's worthless because there is a huge excess of those two when all prom/dyspro has been used that can never be used, so we're rebalancing reactions to fix that horrible mistake/we are introducing alchemy to make there be some use for them/we are introducing new reactions exclusively using the bad r64s, more details to come soon"

Dasfry
Caldari
Demio's Corporation
United Stellar Alliance
Posted - 2009.09.09 20:27:00 - [107]
 

Originally by: Hiro Cephalus
Recruiting employers are not dumb people, and routinely search for applicant names on Google. A search for Adam Ridgway will reveal him to be an untrustworthy applicant, incapable of fulfilling the obligations of any future contract, as well as having issues with regards females and those of the jewish faith.


That was such a silly argument.

For example If I type my RL name into google.
Like 30+ different people come up, none have anything to do with me.

Type his name in google and you'd probably get an even wider result.

Abrazzar
Posted - 2009.09.09 20:34:00 - [108]
 

Originally by: Dasfry
Type Adam Ridgway, in google and you'd probably get an even wider result.

Done. Fourth result was this thread.

Nexus Kinnon
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2009.09.09 20:35:00 - [109]
 

Originally by: Hiro Cephalus
Originally by: Serenity Steele
As for Adam Ridgway (aka Larkonis Trassler); you're a disgrace and unworthy of the responsibility of CSM, let alone your own signature on an NDA. I hope you're name is quickly forgotten.


If anything, his name should, and must, be remembered. Through this debate, we are skirting round the one true issue here.

It was not Larkonis Trassler who broke the NDA and exploited his role in the CSM. It was Adam Ridgway.

He signed a legally binding Non Disclosure Agreement.

He broke this agreement, by using his role in the CSM to further his own ends.

He was caught doing it. And only then was he apologetic.

He posted on Scrapheap Challenge after this apology, referring to such market manipulation as 'Jew Trading'. Clearly alluding to offensive anti-semitic stereotypes.

He also posted a degrading comment in the same thread about the prospect of 'spit-roasting' an Icelandic native, all while being supposedly apologetic.

Recruiting employers are not dumb people, and routinely search for applicant names on Google. A search for him will reveal him to be an untrustworthy applicant, incapable of fulfilling the obligations of any future contract, as well as having issues with regards females and those of the jewish faith.



The internet has a long memory.




hahaha

De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2009.09.09 20:52:00 - [110]
 

Originally by: Abrazzar
Originally by: Dasfry
Type Adam Ridgway, in google and you'd probably get an even wider result.

Done. Fourth result was this thread.


I luvs da intertubez

Andrest Disch
Amarr
Debitum Naturae
Posted - 2009.09.09 21:05:00 - [111]
 

Holy ****ing **** people, this is a GAME.

G-A-M-E.

The things you do in a game, don;t mean you'd do those things in real life, or you'd all be in prison right now.


PERSPECTIVE, learn to use it.

Cornette
Gallente
Solar Revenue Service
TAXU
Posted - 2009.09.09 21:12:00 - [112]
 

I voted for Larkonis and I would do so again.

Any day of the week.


And to all you tools who are crying for blood I just say: lol

Abrazzar
Posted - 2009.09.09 21:14:00 - [113]
 

Originally by: Andrest Disch
Holy ****ing **** people, this is a GAME.

G-A-M-E.

The things you do in a game, don;t mean you'd do those things in real life, or you'd all be in prison right now.


PERSPECTIVE, learn to use it.

He crossed the line between the game and reality by violating the NDA that exactly defined the line where the game ends and reality begins. This is a real violation of trust, not just a game.

Andrest Disch
Amarr
Debitum Naturae
Posted - 2009.09.09 21:22:00 - [114]
 

Edited by: Andrest Disch on 09/09/2009 21:29:28
Originally by: Abrazzar

He crossed the line between the game and reality by violating the NDA that exactly defined the line where the game ends and reality begins. This is a real violation of trust, not just a game.


And the consequences of crossing that line were decided by CCP, just as they decide on how to punish people who break the EULA.

I just don't understand why people care as much to try and bring his real life into it; he did something stupid, he got punished with a ingame ban and no more free trips to Iceland.

ugh

Evil D3moN
Posted - 2009.09.09 21:24:00 - [115]
 

Originally by: Wemo
The Scorpion and the Frog

A scorpion asks a frog to carry him across a river. The frog is afraid of being stung, but the scorpion reassures him that if it stung the frog, the frog would sink and the scorpion would drown as well. The frog then agrees; nevertheless, in mid-river, the scorpion stings him, dooming the two of them. When asked why, the scorpion explains, "I'm a scorpion; it's my nature."




Cool Story bro !


Originally by: Wemo

I voted for you boss and I'd do it again.


Of course you do !
You and all he's Laconian Syndicate Aliance !!! Wink


Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente
The Crane Family
Posted - 2009.09.09 21:32:00 - [116]
 

Originally by: Hiro Cephalus

... vindictive nonsense ...



Seriously dude, what's wrong with you? Internet spaceships serious business? Got podded by the guy? Scammed you on a contract? No friends in RL and didn't get any votes in the election? You really need to get some perspective on this. Better yet, step away from the keyboard for a second. Leave your basement for a while. It's really not that scary. Seriously, this is just not very healthy ...

The dude did a stupid. Got caught. And now has to play WoW for a month. Punishment enough already ...

Evil Edna
Jian Products Engineering Group
Atlas.
Posted - 2009.09.09 21:42:00 - [117]
 

a ban doesnt go far enough, he should be publically castrated and then made to watch a years worth of hollyoaks episodes while rubbing sand into his gentials.

this is serious people, serious.

Haakelen
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2009.09.09 21:43:00 - [118]
 

Originally by: OV Marius
Will vote again

mazzilliu
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.09.09 21:48:00 - [119]
 

Originally by: Hiro Cephalus
Originally by: Serenity Steele
As for Adam Ridgway (aka Larkonis Trassler); you're a disgrace and unworthy of the responsibility of CSM, let alone your own signature on an NDA. I hope you're name is quickly forgotten.


If anything, his name should, and must, be remembered. Through this debate, we are skirting round the one true issue here.

It was not Larkonis Trassler who broke the NDA and exploited his role in the CSM. It was Adam Ridgway.

He signed a legally binding Non Disclosure Agreement.

He broke this agreement, by using his role in the CSM to further his own ends.

He was caught doing it. And only then was he apologetic.

He posted on Scrapheap Challenge after this apology, referring to such market manipulation as 'Jew Trading'. Clearly alluding to offensive anti-semitic stereotypes.

He also posted a degrading comment in the same thread about the prospect of 'spit-roasting' an Icelandic native, all while being supposedly apologetic.

Recruiting employers are not dumb people, and routinely search for applicant names on Google. A search for him will reveal him to be an untrustworthy applicant, incapable of fulfilling the obligations of any future contract, as well as having issues with regards females and those of the jewish faith.



The internet has a long memory.





i too would like to file a complaint about Adam Ridgway. He killed my alt in lowsec. An act which is clearly murder, even if it happens on the bad side of town. It's just no excuse. Im going to call his boss to complain about him bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork

Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente
The Crane Family
Posted - 2009.09.09 21:57:00 - [120]
 

And the things Adam Ridgway did to that poor donkey. That ain't pretty either ...


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