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ciapek
Amarr
Reikoku
IT Alliance
Posted - 2009.09.09 15:43:00 - [241]
 

Originally by: g0ggalor
Originally by: Ceralio
And angry? No, i'm having a blast
Lol, you got jipped out of 182Billions ****ing isk and you aren't angry. Suuuuuure...


not rly cause he have like 300-400b left ?

F900EX - what ever reasons u had, but if owners of the ships get money new my new internet hero :D

trust ? ship and situation, its not a mothership ffs, cause of that he did what he think was right, imho nothing to do with trust with usual business he does, cause it was not usual

SFS - i thought u r f*cking around (expected) but you just did in a wrong way, to bad ( like you give a crap) but now dian took "my favorite fc" position.

WTB another hero to scam sfs from rest of the ships :D

now let me crawl back under my stone Cool


SFCrazy
Posted - 2009.09.09 16:40:00 - [242]
 

here i am again i dont know what to say i just like to see myself pop up in this thread YARRRR!!

Waagaa Ktlehr
Amarr
GeoCorp.
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2009.09.09 17:47:00 - [243]
 

Originally by: Le Skunk
Edited by: Le Skunk on 09/09/2009 01:06:49
The situation as i understand it:

1) F900 claims to want to give the State Raven back to what he considers "the rightfull owner" Sir Molle (Molle incidentally has show with Hedgemons Rast Titan he has his own dubious definitions of Right full Owner)
2) SFS claims Molle was an accomplice in the "theft".
3) F900 demands proof Molle was an accomplice, and if this proof is shown, he will pay SFS the 180 billion
4) SFS is happy to give this proof - with the provisio CHRIBBA (the only fully trusted 3rd party remaining in game) holds onto the Isk. When Chribba has the isk SFS will release the proof.

Well what have you got to lose f900?.


After you have admited to not fufilling your side of the bargain with SFS - he is in his rights to ask for a middle man and Chribba is trustworthy.

Consider the following scenarios

ArrowBest case scenario - SFS is talking **** - Chribba gives you your isk back. Molle gets his ship. Your decision is validated and you regain your E-Honour LOSER --> SFS

ArrowWorst case scenario - SFS proves Molle was an accomplice - Chribba gives SFS the isk - You keep a 180 billion isk ship. You repair your E-Honour.LOSER --> MOLLE

ArrowOutside Chance Scenario- Chribba steals the isk. You keep a 180 billion isk ship. LOSER --> MOLLE AND SFS

Please note that you are not the loser in either scenario. So you have nothing to lose.

Since you have set yourself on the path of "moral honest righteousness" - the least you can do is finish it off.

SKUNK



ITT: SFS getting so desperate that he's burning his alts to back his own reasoning.
Class. :)

F90OEX
F9X
Posted - 2009.09.09 17:48:00 - [244]
 

SFS can get all his alts and his pirate passari friends to bump the thread, but for me its running out of stream. This is his last chance and by that I mean mail me this convo with Molle that took place. All I need to see is between 1933-1941pm.

Session Start: Wed Aug 26 19:33:29 2009
Session Ident: SFShootme

You have until DT today to make your mind up, if you don't then I'm not continuing to put fuel on the fire, I have said all I needed to say, at this stage all where doing is beating a dead horse. If I do not get anything then I will stick to the plan mentioned when the time is right.

You can stick your alts in WI you chase me around the Eve universe you can all me all the names you want, nothing is going to change it's like water on a ducks back to me and at DT I am done.

Ran Khanon
Amarr
Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
Posted - 2009.09.09 17:56:00 - [245]
 

Tick, tack, tick, tack ...

*In before falsified logs*

Albiose
Posted - 2009.09.09 19:02:00 - [246]
 

Did 'Unholy Rage' kill your CNR supply, needed something else to do Smile

And giving 180 billion isk to BoB members must be a popular move with the rest of the NC Wink

F90OEX
F9X
Posted - 2009.09.09 19:13:00 - [247]
 

Originally by: Albiose
Did 'Unholy Rage' kill your CNR supply, needed something else to do Smile

And giving 180 billion isk to BoB members must be a popular move with the rest of the NC Wink



BOB as an alliance are no longer around.

CNR selling can start back up when ever I feel like it, that's the great thing about it LaughingLaughing

All "Unholy Rage" will do for me is increase the profit margin and less time spend managing the complete CNR market.

Plus the nice CNR buff coming soon it's a win win

When it comes to trading, timing is everything Cool

Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
Posted - 2009.09.09 19:36:00 - [248]
 

F90, why is this discussion between you and Shootme even happening? Why haven't you returned the Raven to Molle as you said you would?

F90OEX
F9X
Posted - 2009.09.09 19:46:00 - [249]
 

Originally by: Gypsio III
F90, why is this discussion between you and Shootme even happening? Why haven't you returned the Raven to Molle as you said you would?


Gypsio III your not playing attention nor have your read what I have posted, I cannot be bothered repeating myself like a parrot.

But after talking with him today, we came to agreement he is happy with and so am I, when the time is right HE will make a post about it and tbh at this stage it is between me and him.

Kaigon Jane
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2009.09.09 19:49:00 - [250]
 

at SFS . . . why?

Sad ex-SFS fan

Taedrin
Gallente
Kushan Industrial
Posted - 2009.09.09 20:02:00 - [251]
 

Originally by: Gypsio III
F90, why is this discussion between you and Shootme even happening? Why haven't you returned the Raven to Molle as you said you would?


From what I understand, he hasn't done so yet because of two reasons:

1) Molle doesn't want it back - he wants it to be sold and have the ISK split between those who originally won the prize

2) SFS claims that Molle was part of the original scam and claims he has proof. F90 will pay SFS the 180 billion ISK if he releases the proof and the proof is adequate. SFS demands that F90 use Chribba as a neutral 3rd party before he releases the proof.

F90 refuses to use Chribba - tells SFS to play by his rules or no dice.

TBH, dragging Chribba into this mess is a bad idea. Chribba's 3rd party services are based upon his neutrality as a 3rd party. However, this mess would force Chribba to lose his neutrality as he would have to make subjective judgements about the validity of the proof that SFS provides. If Chribba accepts the proof, people claim that Chribba is favoring SFS. If Chribba rejects the proof, then people claim that he is favoring F90/Molle.

Albiose
Posted - 2009.09.09 21:13:00 - [252]
 

Originally by: Taedrin
TBH, dragging Chribba into this mess is a bad idea. Chribba's 3rd party services are based upon his neutrality as a 3rd party. However, this mess would force Chribba to lose his neutrality as he would have to make subjective judgements about the validity of the proof that SFS provides. If Chribba accepts the proof, people claim that Chribba is favoring SFS. If Chribba rejects the proof, then people claim that he is favoring F90/Molle.


I see what you did there.

Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
Posted - 2009.09.09 22:34:00 - [253]
 

Originally by: F90OEX
Originally by: Gypsio III
F90, why is this discussion between you and Shootme even happening? Why haven't you returned the Raven to Molle as you said you would?


Gypsio III your not playing attention nor have your read what I have posted, I cannot be bothered repeating myself like a parrot.

But after talking with him today, we came to agreement he is happy with and so am I, when the time is right HE will make a post about it and tbh at this stage it is between me and him.


But your posts makes very little sense. "Oh, I'll do the honourable thing and return the ship"... but you haven't. Is the green-eyed monster whispering in your ear?

Or are you just scared? Scared that someone is playing you for a fool? Scared that you're being lied to by Molle? How much love for the NC do you think he has? Is the doubt gnawing away at you...?

You're in an awkward situation, certainly. You'll have to find a way out that doesn't ruin your reputation and make you look like a fool.

Halkin
Caldari
Locus Evolved
Posted - 2009.09.09 22:49:00 - [254]
 

Originally by: F90OEX
Originally by: Le Skunk
Hmmm could be some giant egg on the face of F9 who's vain attempts at "mega rich" moralizing look to have backfired.

Excellent thread - keep up the good posts :)

SKUNK





Could be, but IF he's trying to spin this another way to hurt me lol Everything he has said up to this point has been nothing but lie's including his thread SFS Cashing out thread.

Who is going to want to believe a -10 pirate who stole 3 prizes (ships) from Bob and then make a huge thread about it ....


Either post the truth or I am done with it.




keep the ship, spin it in station if you want to, and let the morality/wanna be bad boys argue in here about it

F90OEX
F9X
Posted - 2009.09.09 23:14:00 - [255]
 

Originally by: Gypsio III
Originally by: F90OEX
Originally by: Gypsio III
F90, why is this discussion between you and Shootme even happening? Why haven't you returned the Raven to Molle as you said you would?


Gypsio III your not playing attention nor have your read what I have posted, I cannot be bothered repeating myself like a parrot.

But after talking with him today, we came to agreement he is happy with and so am I, when the time is right HE will make a post about it and tbh at this stage it is between me and him.


But your posts makes very little sense. "Oh, I'll do the honourable thing and return the ship"... but you haven't. Is the green-eyed monster whispering in your ear?

Or are you just scared? Scared that someone is playing you for a fool? Scared that you're being lied to by Molle? How much love for the NC do you think he has? Is the doubt gnawing away at you...?

You're in an awkward situation, certainly. You'll have to find a way out that doesn't ruin your reputation and make you look like a fool.


Where did I say I would return the actual ship to molle....

Please link it

Harotak
Malicious Destruction
Posted - 2009.09.10 00:12:00 - [256]
 

Of all the reasons to break your word, this is probably the worst. I would have much more respect if he had just stolen it for himself tbh.

Ceralio
The Carebear Stare
Hydroponic Zone
Posted - 2009.09.10 00:18:00 - [257]
 

Edited by: Ceralio on 10/09/2009 00:18:00
Originally by: F90OEX
SFS can get all his alts and his pirate passari friends to bump the thread, but for me its running out of stream. This is his last chance and by that I mean mail me this convo with Molle that took place. All I need to see is between 1933-1941pm.

Session Start: Wed Aug 26 19:33:29 2009
Session Ident: SFShootme

You have until DT today to make your mind up, if you don't then I'm not continuing to put fuel on the fire, I have said all I needed to say, at this stage all where doing is beating a dead horse. If I do not get anything then I will stick to the plan mentioned when the time is right.

You can stick your alts in WI you chase me around the Eve universe you can all me all the names you want, nothing is going to change it's like water on a ducks back to me and at DT I am done.


Having a pretty good idea of what you think is morally correct, i think what you at the moment see as "correct" would NOT be so correct once the full truth comes out. At the moment thats something between me and Molle. Noone else.

If you don't want to use Chribba its over for me, live with the thought that you actually don't even have a clue why you gave your 3rd party service up, that your "morally correct" actions might not be so moral after all.

You not wanting to use Chribba because your ego is to big is your problem, not mine, i honestly find it hilarious your going to act without knowing the full truth, and now probably wont ever know. Personally i don't trust you for another cent anymore. And i'm sure i'm not the only one.

And about the alt thing, no. I have not posted with a single alt in this thread. My friends have tough, and i can't blame them.

Eitherway, cya.

Loki Farseer
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.09.10 00:47:00 - [258]
 

Originally by: Yakovv
http://killboardlink.com/statement.html

Here is Htrag's statement


Ummm... M8 I am nobody's alt. As a matter of fact you have the alts and real accounts in that little paragraph soo wrong it's rather funny.

Why don't you stick to what you're good for/at, and tell me when you figure it out. YARRRR!!

Loki

Kaigon Jane
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2009.09.10 00:48:00 - [259]
 

Dude, I loved you man and you broke my heart.

If you are claiming Molle was involved, then
a- Proof or stfu
b- Return the other 2 ships back to BoB
c- Leave Chribba out, this is between you and Bob

But if you are just a basic thief,

Why?

This is just an internet game. Doesn't matter what Molle said or planned, why steal from your corpmates.


Lana's Alt
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
Posted - 2009.09.10 01:01:00 - [260]
 

Originally by: F90OEX
Where did I say I would return the actual ship to molle....

Please link it


Wait.. so you stole it with no intention of returning it to its 'rightful' owner? That's just regular run of the mill theft.. Just cut your losses now and post something like 'haha, scammed you all' and keep the unique.. If nothing else it gives the ship an absolutely amazing background.

F90OEX
F9X
Posted - 2009.09.10 01:25:00 - [261]
 

Originally by: Ceralio
Edited by: Ceralio on 10/09/2009 00:18:00
Originally by: F90OEX
SFS can get all his alts and his pirate passari friends to bump the thread, but for me its running out of stream. This is his last chance and by that I mean mail me this convo with Molle that took place. All I need to see is between 1933-1941pm.

Session Start: Wed Aug 26 19:33:29 2009
Session Ident: SFShootme

You have until DT today to make your mind up, if you don't then I'm not continuing to put fuel on the fire, I have said all I needed to say, at this stage all where doing is beating a dead horse. If I do not get anything then I will stick to the plan mentioned when the time is right.

You can stick your alts in WI you chase me around the Eve universe you can all me all the names you want, nothing is going to change it's like water on a ducks back to me and at DT I am done.


Having a pretty good idea of what you think is morally correct, i think what you at the moment see as "correct" would NOT be so correct once the full truth comes out. At the moment thats something between me and Molle. Noone else.

If you don't want to use Chribba its over for me, live with the thought that you actually don't even have a clue why you gave your 3rd party service up, that your "morally correct" actions might not be so moral after all.

You not wanting to use Chribba because your ego is to big is your problem, not mine, i honestly find it hilarious your going to act without knowing the full truth, and now probably wont ever know. Personally i don't trust you for another cent anymore. And i'm sure i'm not the only one.

And about the alt thing, no. I have not posted with a single alt in this thread. My friends have tough, and i can't blame them.

Eitherway, cya.



SFS

I will leave you with what you said in the many IRC logs and other Eve/Ts crap I was given over the last 2 days.


[15:34] <SFShootme> its a game man
[19:39] <SFShootme> not personal,
[19:39] <SFShootme> i made up my mind man. Sorry


Not been ****y SFS but one thing I got good at from 3years of trading in Eve is cutting through all the BS, seeing through the lies.... IF these logs and other items are faked someone spent a long time going through 20 hrs of what I have.

Like you said, only you and him know what really happened... He was more then willing to share what he has, I don't see why it should be a problem for you since you have nothing to lose. But you have your reasons and so do I. And with that I sign out of this thread and let people make there own mind up.

CYA Very Happy


Snake O'Donell
Gallente
Core Impulse
Posted - 2009.09.10 01:43:00 - [262]
 

/me grabs popcorn

This is getting entertaining!

zombu2
Caldari
Evolution
The Initiative.
Posted - 2009.09.10 01:54:00 - [263]
 

i dunno what this is all about but whatever it is and f900 had something to do with it it was prolly funny

Lana's Alt
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
Posted - 2009.09.10 02:04:00 - [264]
 

Originally by: Snake O'Donell
/me grabs popcorn

This is getting entertaining!

Naw.. It looks like this is all over bar the crying..

Drago Musevenii
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2009.09.10 05:49:00 - [265]
 

stealing is bad, ceralio. I hope you learned something from this.

PMolkenthin
TunDraGon
Posted - 2009.09.10 07:46:00 - [266]
 

Originally by: Loki Farseer
Originally by: Yakovv
http://killboardlink.com/statement.html

Here is Htrag's statement


Ummm... M8 I am nobody's alt. As a matter of fact you have the alts and real accounts in that little paragraph soo wrong it's rather funny.

Why don't you stick to what you're good for/at, and tell me when you figure it out. YARRRR!!

Loki


I can confirm that Loki is not F900's alt. I've spoken to both of them on TS together. Also @ F900, you're gramma is terrible! Keep the state raven, and sell me a CNR cheap for my alt.

Cippalippus Primus
eXceed Inc.
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2009.09.10 10:06:00 - [267]
 

This story is so dumb yet so strangely compelling and amusing. The equivalent of a silent slapstick comedy movie.

Can however people stop assuming what Molle said/didn't say/did/didn't do and just get the man to post here, so we have at least an official statement?

RedSplat
Posted - 2009.09.10 10:06:00 - [268]
 

Quote:

But you have your reasons and so do I.


Yeah, you are an EVOL alt- to be specific one that just burnt his credibility as an impartial 3rd party.

Lana's Alt
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
Posted - 2009.09.10 10:34:00 - [269]
 

Originally by: Cippalippus Primus
This story is so dumb yet so strangely compelling and amusing. The equivalent of a silent slapstick comedy movie.

Can however people stop assuming what Molle said/didn't say/did/didn't do and just get the man to post here, so we have at least an official statement?

I believe Molle official statement is something along the lines of 'aint got nuffin to do with me'. I mean think about it for a second.. If Molle had something to do with he hes going to want to cover his tracks and say nothing, if Molle didn't have anything to do with it hes going to say nothing and not get involved.. If he gos around making public statements one way or the others its just going to harm his reputation..

Like I said 3 or 4 posts up.. This is just about all over now.


Sanguis Fluibant
Amarr
The Guiding Greg Social and Best Friend Club
Posted - 2009.09.10 11:08:00 - [270]
 

Originally by: Lana's Alt
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus
This story is so dumb yet so strangely compelling and amusing. The equivalent of a silent slapstick comedy movie.

Can however people stop assuming what Molle said/didn't say/did/didn't do and just get the man to post here, so we have at least an official statement?

I believe Molle official statement is something along the lines of 'aint got nuffin to do with me'. I mean think about it for a second.. If Molle had something to do with he hes going to want to cover his tracks and say nothing, if Molle didn't have anything to do with it hes going to say nothing and not get involved.. If he gos around making public statements one way or the others its just going to harm his reputation..

Like I said 3 or 4 posts up.. This is just about all over now.




why are you always posting absolute garbage you know so little about


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