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Cippalippus Primus
eXceed Inc.
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2009.09.10 11:17:00 - [271]
 

Originally by: Lana's Alt

I believe Molle official statement is something along the lines of 'aint got nuffin to do with me'. I mean think about it for a second.. If Molle had something to do with he hes going to want to cover his tracks and say nothing, if Molle didn't have anything to do with it hes going to say nothing and not get involved.. If he gos around making public statements one way or the others its just going to harm his reputation..

Like I said 3 or 4 posts up.. This is just about all over now.




As I said, I don't care at all about what you and others think Molle said or did. I want to hear what the main party has to say. Otherwise this thread is just a big smoke curtain.

Lana's Alt
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
Posted - 2009.09.10 11:22:00 - [272]
 

Originally by: Cippalippus Primus
Originally by: Lana's Alt

I believe Molle official statement is something along the lines of 'aint got nuffin to do with me'. I mean think about it for a second.. If Molle had something to do with he hes going to want to cover his tracks and say nothing, if Molle didn't have anything to do with it hes going to say nothing and not get involved.. If he gos around making public statements one way or the others its just going to harm his reputation..

Like I said 3 or 4 posts up.. This is just about all over now.




As I said, I don't care at all about what you and others think Molle said or did. I want to hear what the main party has to say. Otherwise this thread is just a big smoke curtain.

You really are that stupid aren't you.

Sanguis Fluibant
Amarr
The Guiding Greg Social and Best Friend Club
Posted - 2009.09.10 11:29:00 - [273]
 

Originally by: Lana's Alt
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus
Originally by: Lana's Alt

I believe Molle official statement is something along the lines of 'aint got nuffin to do with me'. I mean think about it for a second.. If Molle had something to do with he hes going to want to cover his tracks and say nothing, if Molle didn't have anything to do with it hes going to say nothing and not get involved.. If he gos around making public statements one way or the others its just going to harm his reputation..

Like I said 3 or 4 posts up.. This is just about all over now.




As I said, I don't care at all about what you and others think Molle said or did. I want to hear what the main party has to say. Otherwise this thread is just a big smoke curtain.

You really are that stupid aren't you.



ahahaha u mad

go back to can flipping


Lana's Alt
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
Posted - 2009.09.10 11:32:00 - [274]
 

Originally by: Sanguis Fluibant
Originally by: Lana's Alt
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus
Originally by: Lana's Alt

I believe Molle official statement is something along the lines of 'aint got nuffin to do with me'. I mean think about it for a second.. If Molle had something to do with he hes going to want to cover his tracks and say nothing, if Molle didn't have anything to do with it hes going to say nothing and not get involved.. If he gos around making public statements one way or the others its just going to harm his reputation..

Like I said 3 or 4 posts up.. This is just about all over now.




As I said, I don't care at all about what you and others think Molle said or did. I want to hear what the main party has to say. Otherwise this thread is just a big smoke curtain.

You really are that stupid aren't you.



ahahaha u mad

go back to can flipping



I would.. but you know.. :patchday:

Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
Posted - 2009.09.10 11:32:00 - [275]
 

Originally by: F90OEX
Where did I say I would return the actual ship to molle....

Please link it


The very first post in this thread?

Quote:
F90OEX > np, this is not about the isk. SFS... don;t know how to stay this but this ship is going back to the righfull owner/s .... whoever that might be. I dont need the isk from it nor do I need the ship, but what u did was not right.


So, which of the following will you claim?

a) OMG faked chatlog!
b) Molle is not the rightful owner. Molle stole the ship himself. :tinfoil:

One thing is for sure though... I don't have a damn clue what's going on. I don't know why Molle unnecessarily lent the ships to Shootme, I don't why Shootme unnecessarily contracted the ship to you, I don't know why you unnecessarily claimed to want to return the ship to Molle, I don't know why you don't dare use Chribba, I don't know why you now refuse to return the ship as you promised, and I don't know why you'd throw away your Third Party business for a ship that you could buy with your petty change. But I don't think that your grasp of the situation is much better.

I don't have any useful inside information, and every cunning conspiracy theory that I come up with is wildly implausible. So I'm focusing on the very simple issue of you claiming to want to do the "right" thing and return the ship but then getting cold feet and burning your credibility. Why?

Xtreem
Gallente
The Collective
White Noise.
Posted - 2009.09.10 12:10:00 - [276]
 

we need an official statement already :D

f9 - i'm glad your 3rd party program is not you isk maker as it is most prob ruined now.

SFS- always use the most trusted with such expensive things like you are with chribba and the tribal.

Spathi
Diabolus Ex Machina
Posted - 2009.09.10 13:10:00 - [277]
 

Edited by: Spathi on 10/09/2009 13:21:41

I love how this smacks of desperation from sfs.

I wonder how many of the people in this thread saying it has harmed f90's 3rd party business have ever actually used it, or ever would/will. Maybe 1? Rolling EyesLaughing If anything, it has boosted his trust rating since he wont handle stolen goods.

SirMolle
Evolution
The Initiative.
Posted - 2009.09.10 13:13:00 - [278]
 

F9 knows exactly what to do with the ship and/or the isk, when this whole thing is properly dealt with.


I'll refrain from commenting on all the idjit conspiracy theories.

Slinktress
Gallente
Evolution
The Initiative.
Posted - 2009.09.10 13:15:00 - [279]
 

Originally by: Xtreem
we need an official statement already :D

f9 - i'm glad your 3rd party program is not you isk maker as it is most prob ruined now.

SFS- always use the most trusted with such expensive things like you are with chribba and the tribal.


What would be the advantage of an "official statement"? What are you looking for? Don't trust SFS? SFS, where's your statement. Are you a hero or a mouse?

I've done and would be happy to again, if you can catch me, do 3rd party transfers. I would be up front though and say I refuse to deal in stolen goods unless it's to return them to the owner. Long time diplomat and alliance leadership have taught me you cannot put a price on trust. References available. Cost is a donation to the Timecards for Needy charity founded by FLA, which has provided help to honest players without discrimination on political alignment for years.

I'd like to applaud all the players out there faced with similar temptations who resisted and have subsequently made true friends and the game a little more fun.

Cheers o/


Ceralio
The Carebear Stare
Hydroponic Zone
Posted - 2009.09.10 14:10:00 - [280]
 

My statement states i want Chribba

As i've posted about a million times

Spathi
Diabolus Ex Machina
Posted - 2009.09.10 15:21:00 - [281]
 

Except f90 has zero incentive to do anything you want and yet you have everything to gain doing what he wants.

Non existent bargaining position

RansomList
Posted - 2009.09.10 15:24:00 - [282]
 

f90 cant be trusted, i'd say involving Chribba is a neccesity at this point given both partys have good reason to lie through thier teeth.

Dianabolic
Reikoku
Posted - 2009.09.10 15:37:00 - [283]
 

Chribba, who can obviously make his own decisions, is probably looking at this and thinking "I'm not touching this with a barge pole", it's lose:lose for him with a 50% split either way.

And given how much business he does with both sides of the argument I very much think he sees it that way, too.

RedSplat
Posted - 2009.09.10 15:41:00 - [284]
 

This affair has really brought all of the roaches out of the woodwork...

Xianbei
Posted - 2009.09.10 16:30:00 - [285]
 

Originally by: RedSplat
This affair has really brought all of the roaches out of the woodwork...


/as he cleans his antennae with his forelegs and wanders off looking for another thread to poop in

Kva Plexcha
Gallente
Doing You Right
Posted - 2009.09.10 16:35:00 - [286]
 

Edited by: Kva Plexcha on 10/09/2009 16:37:26
Edited by: Kva Plexcha on 10/09/2009 16:36:09
I still think both if Ceralio insists on Chribba, and insists he has "proof" then all 3 ships should be sent to Chribba .... if you are so sure Ceralio, then you have nothing to lose here.

If not, shut up and keep the two you have instead of trying to whine to get the third one back.

Also it has been noted that F9 has nothing to lose not using Chribba, so it must be suspicious that he doesnt chose this option ... the flip side to this is Ceralio can also simply post his "proof" right now and get the ship returned if hes right, but chooses not to do so ... hmm

Its all how you look at it I guess.

since I tend to believe that F9 did this with a sense of "morals", as is his argument, if Ceralio actually proved what he was saying and F9 didnt return the ship, then he would have nothing left as far as reputation goes.

Edit spelling
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Builder Robert
Posted - 2009.09.10 16:54:00 - [287]
 

I'd be happy with just a few million to be honest.

Grimrian
Cash Money Brothers
Posted - 2009.09.10 17:14:00 - [288]
 

Originally by: RedSplat
This affair has really brought all of the roaches out of the woodwork...

I have a mental picture of a giant anthill..
Then someone comes along and pokes the crap out of it with a big stick. like he's on coke n' crack, just banging away with his stick in the anthill in a raging ant stick poking fury.

The ants are mad ants now, and then the dude got pee'd to death by ant madness fury pee fest..Neutral

Albiose
Posted - 2009.09.10 17:22:00 - [289]
 

Look at all the bobits Shocked

Guess F9 has a few alts his NC buds don't know about..

Kryztal
Caldari
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2009.09.10 17:50:00 - [290]
 

lol i just love how desperate SFS is in this thread. Would love to see this so called proof and anything he has thats so bad that it will split us all up forever and ever and ever and ever ...

Lol we dont like you anymore, your reputation is shot, what do you have to lose ? :P The desperation is sooooooooo obvious. I wouldnt care tbh if the ship got scammed and it wouldnt be returned and so do a lot of people. We just love seeing someone scamming a scammer and thats all you are today ... a scammer and a thief.

[15:34] <Molle> right then, thanks for nothing
[15:34] <SFShootme> sry bro

Xtreem
Gallente
The Collective
White Noise.
Posted - 2009.09.11 02:21:00 - [291]
 

Originally by: Slinktress

What would be the advantage of an "official statement"? What are you looking for? Don't trust SFS? SFS, where's your statement. Are you a hero or a mouse?

I've done and would be happy to again, if you can catch me, do 3rd party transfers. I would be up front though and say I refuse to deal in stolen goods unless it's to return them to the owner.

I'd like to applaud all the players out there faced with similar temptations who resisted and have subsequently made true friends and the game a little more fun.

Cheers o/




Official statement from all sides stating exactly what they are saying was my request.

and I have lead 2 alliance (both null sec) and held the bank wallets for both, and had a hi sec pos setup business where I took 10's of billions without collateral, I do not condone the theft of these ships and in the same situation I would not have taken them, but on the same note f9 did not state in his threads he will not take stolen goods.

my sole and only point all along was he has done a very bad job on the 3rd party thing regardless of what the morality of the issue at hand is.

Lana's Alt
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
Posted - 2009.09.11 03:30:00 - [292]
 

Originally by: Xtreem

Official statement from all sides stating exactly what they are saying was my request.

and I have lead 2 alliance (both null sec) and held the bank wallets for both, and had a hi sec pos setup business where I took 10's of billions without collateral, I do not condone the theft of these ships and in the same situation I would not have taken them, but on the same note f9 did not state in his threads he will not take stolen goods.

my sole and only point all along was he has done a very bad job on the 3rd party thing regardless of what the morality of the issue at hand is.

Given what you said (and I agree with you) I don't see how any official statements would make any difference. At no point have I ever said it was a bad moral choice (I don't feel qualified to comment on other peoples morality in a game of internet spaceships) but I have stated over and over again that F90 simply can not be trusted as a 3rd party anymore. Hearing an official 'why i did it' from anyone isn't going to change the facts of what F90 did, even if it turns out he was justifiably and morally correct.

I'm not sure if chibby would have even touched this one with a 50ft pole right from the start (actually, im sure hes smart enough to just stay away), but if he had decided he was going to take it there would have been no question that he would have given the ship to whoever SFS asked him to and no one else. After all, SFS was paying for a service which F90 for whatever reason, did not complete.

CamMan
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2009.09.11 06:08:00 - [293]
 

Edited by: CamMan on 11/09/2009 06:08:40
Originally by: Kva Plexcha
Edited by: Kva Plexcha on 10/09/2009 16:37:26
Edited by: Kva Plexcha on 10/09/2009 16:36:09
I still think both if Ceralio insists on Chribba, and insists he has "proof" then all 3 ships should be sent to Chribba .... if you are so sure Ceralio, then you have nothing to lose here.

If not, shut up and keep the two you have instead of trying to whine to get the third one back.



SFS, if you are so certain then take this mans challenge! (PS. great thinking Kva Plexcha).

PS. I am not sure what SFS even wants Chribba to be used for, F90 currently has the ship, the buyer has the isk, so what does SFS have that needs to be traded by a 3rd party?

Common sense would dictate that if there was any truth to SFS's story then he loses nothing by showing F90 the logs that prove it and getting his ship back by a direct trade, so again why is Chribba's name being mentioned?

Lana's Alt
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
Posted - 2009.09.11 06:40:00 - [294]
 

Edited by: Lana''s Alt on 11/09/2009 06:40:19
Originally by: CamMan

Common sense would dictate that if there was any truth to SFS's story then he loses nothing by showing F90 the logs that prove it and getting his ship back by a direct trade, so again why is Chribba's name being mentioned?

I think SFS is not convinced that F90 will return the ship after the information has been released. And TBH neither am I.. So far F90 has refused to give the ship to anyone else and has refused to use Chibby. If the information were released then it is likely that F90 will just say its made up and never give up the ship. Even if it were 100% verifiable then I think it would be likely that F90 wouldn't return the ship because he had been played..

TL;DR: SFS has nothing to gain by just releasing the information without getting the ship back in return. F90 has nothing to gain either way. Its not going to happen.

Muad' Dib
Gallente
PWNED FACTOR HOLDINGS
Posted - 2009.09.11 06:53:00 - [295]
 

Originally by: Nick Curso
Edited by: Nick Curso on 09/09/2009 14:44:13
Originally by: Muad' Dib
Originally by: Nick Curso
Originally by: Ceralio
Lol wags, if you want a ****storm i can give you one. "Watch your back"

But then again i'm not rlly like that and i still got 2 more uniques.



I would doubt your intelligence to cause a storm in a tea cup tbh


Having witnessed your pvp prowess in low-sec and your posting prowess on the forums, i can say the same about you lot. :)


DON'T UNDOCK there's a BNC rapier in local....

short term selective memory 4tw

and the ex dev alliance comment... you do seem very bitter my friend, would you like to talk about it?


I'm sorry, you have me confused with someone who continued to give a **** about 0.0 after 2006.
It's just poking at a bee-hive, well ... i would like it to be a bee-hive.
Let me explain, i'm in the 'low-sec pirate corner who can't believe how butthurt ex anime-alliance members are after someone did a corp theft on them', who remembered your performance in caldari fw ... or should i say lack of performace.

Xtreem
Gallente
The Collective
White Noise.
Posted - 2009.09.11 06:56:00 - [296]
 

yeah your right, the official statement wont make any real difference, i just like seeing them lol :D

and yeah he wanted chribba to hold the state raven in 3rd party as he things f9 will not release it back even if the evidence does show any truths.

and tbh i see his point, if i did hold an ace up my sleeve i would not want to release it for no gain.
and lets be honest, if chribba held the ship, the "proof" should then be outed in public, and if there is any chance its a fake one of the many people who will look at the evidence will soon shout about it being fake.

but then again, i just want to see the evidence which is why i'm taking that stance lol

CamMan
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2009.09.11 10:05:00 - [297]
 

Originally by: Lana's Alt
Edited by: Lana''s Alt on 11/09/2009 06:40:19
Originally by: CamMan

Common sense would dictate that if there was any truth to SFS's story then he loses nothing by showing F90 the logs that prove it and getting his ship back by a direct trade, so again why is Chribba's name being mentioned?

I think SFS is not convinced that F90 will return the ship after the information has been released. And TBH neither am I.. So far F90 has refused to give the ship to anyone else and has refused to use Chibby. If the information were released then it is likely that F90 will just say its made up and never give up the ship. Even if it were 100% verifiable then I think it would be likely that F90 wouldn't return the ship because he had been played..

TL;DR: SFS has nothing to gain by just releasing the information without getting the ship back in return. F90 has nothing to gain either way. Its not going to happen.


Huh? in this game of theoreticals, SFS has nothing to lose bar some logs that supposedly varify his fancy tale. F90 has a 182 bill isk ship to lose, you do the math and work out who has more to lose. If SFS is so adamant then why doesnt he put his money where his mouth is and put up the other two special ships to Chribba, F90 puts up his state raven in Molle's name, and the person telling the truth between SFS and Molle gets them all? You wont see that happen as SFS knows he is lying, and is trying to scam the state raven back from F90, who is too intelligent to fall for his tricks.

TLDR; Lana's Alt has no clue

Sanguis Fluibant
Amarr
The Guiding Greg Social and Best Friend Club
Posted - 2009.09.11 10:16:00 - [298]
 

Originally by: CamMan

TLDR; Lana's Alt has no clue


lol burrrrn

Victor Vision
Amarr
Central Intelligence Service
Posted - 2009.09.11 10:23:00 - [299]
 

Edited by: Victor Vision on 11/09/2009 10:23:43
Originally by: SirMolle
I'll refrain from commenting on all the idjit conspiracy theories.



Good choice Mr.Molle, good choice.
It has been an amusing soap opera though, you have to admit.

And in every good soap opera, love plays a part.
So without further adue - did you know that Kryztal is in love with you?

Ceralio
The Carebear Stare
Hydroponic Zone
Posted - 2009.09.11 10:47:00 - [300]
 

Originally by: Victor Vision
Edited by: Victor Vision on 11/09/2009 10:23:43
Originally by: SirMolle
I'll refrain from commenting on all the idjit conspiracy theories.



Good choice Mr.Molle, good choice.
It has been an amusing soap opera though, you have to admit.

And in every good soap opera, love plays a part.
So without further adue - did you know that Kryztal is in love with you?


He did comment on it, on Scrapheap


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