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KiFuso
Gallente
Posted - 2009.11.30 20:44:00 - [1021]
 

Maybe im noob.. i dont play much this game. I love dominix and drones.. I think that new Navy Dominix dont deserve to call it Navy, there is no big changes, give us something big. Like, make -1 high slot for a +20% bonus to drone hitpoints per battleship skill lvl, it would be cool. I realy dont need any more slots, I need bigger DPS for my drones :P

Leocadminone
Posted - 2009.12.01 17:11:00 - [1022]
 

Edited by: Leocadminone on 01/12/2009 17:16:36
Originally by: CCP Ytterbium
II. Navy Tier 2 Battleships:

General: all navy battleship shield recharge time has been increased to 3390s.





I wish I'd seen this thread sooner. Why are you reducing shield regen rates on the Navy ships to something that is little IF ANY better than the shield regen rate of a STANDARD non-Navy same-type of ship?


To add insult to injury - the DRAKE (a Battle CRUISER) can in fact tank better now than your new NAVY Raven. I believe, but haven't actually crunched the numbers yet, that the FEROX (another Battle CRUISER) can also outtank a Navy Raven with this change. Hint, BattleCRUISERS are supposed to mount most of the firepower of a BattleSHIP while having little if any better defence than a CRUISER. Mabey y'all should read up on your naval history sometime.


This change is a contradiction to your "The following changes are aimed to fix this" when you're making them noticeably WORSE instead of fixing "little and disparate boost". If you were going to mess with their shield recharge, the shield recharge time should have been REDUCED to less than the time on the base version of the ship, rather than INCREASING that time to over 30% WORSE than on the base ship.

Marcus Gwynn
Posted - 2009.12.01 17:56:00 - [1023]
 

I just tested out the new CNR using the updated EFT and the shield tank on it has gotten a MAJOR castration. Using all level 5 skills, the passive tank set up I had dropped from a defense of 770 to 520 with EHP remaining the same at 94618. As a result, a standard Raven, averaging 75 mil ISK, has a higher tank (defense of 619) using identical setup than a 600 - 650 mil ISK Navy issue version. When you consider the only thing you get for almost 10 times the cost is about a 35% higher EHP (standard Raven tops out at 71825), one more launcher slot, and a slightly better scan resolution and sensor strength, it can hardly be said that this is even close to worth the added expense, much less grinding missions for the 600K LP it takes to 'upgrade'. I dont know what they were trying to do, but unless they lessen the nerf to shield recharge times, the days of seeing a Navy Raven as a shield tank are pretty much over thanks to CCP. Add this to the new faction BS released, it looks like they pushing people to go for faction warfare to get the new ships instead...

Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
Posted - 2009.12.01 18:57:00 - [1024]
 

lol passive-tanking CNRs. Laughing

Mylena Gnarn
Posted - 2009.12.01 19:16:00 - [1025]
 

Well before the changes, passive tanks could give alot higher defense than perma boosted ones.. Now they about on par and just a matter of preference and skill choices...

Sgt Hilger
Posted - 2009.12.01 21:26:00 - [1026]
 

Originally by: Mylena Gnarn
Well before the changes, passive tanks could give alot higher defense than perma boosted ones.. Now they about on par and just a matter of preference and skill choices...


This is true but that came at the sacrifice of dps which was to make it equal, now with this you cannot compete passively anymore... With the CNR being nuetered im glad I went T2 cause I dont see any future for the scorpian as well. I am sure that T2 is the next in the chute to get whacked but hopefully that will take a bit longer so I can pay off my ship at least this time.

Ezekiel Sulastin
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.12.01 21:34:00 - [1027]
 

Originally by: Sgt Hilger
Originally by: Mylena Gnarn
Well before the changes, passive tanks could give alot higher defense than perma boosted ones.. Now they about on par and just a matter of preference and skill choices...


This is true but that came at the sacrifice of dps which was to make it equal, now with this you cannot compete passively anymore... With the CNR being nuetered im glad I went T2 cause I dont see any future for the scorpian as well. I am sure that T2 is the next in the chute to get whacked but hopefully that will take a bit longer so I can pay off my ship at least this time.


Why the everliving crap would you want to passive tank a BS?!

Sgt Hilger
Posted - 2009.12.01 21:40:00 - [1028]
 

Originally by: Ezekiel Sulastin
Originally by: Sgt Hilger
Originally by: Mylena Gnarn
Well before the changes, passive tanks could give alot higher defense than perma boosted ones.. Now they about on par and just a matter of preference and skill choices...


This is true but that came at the sacrifice of dps which was to make it equal, now with this you cannot compete passively anymore... With the CNR being nuetered im glad I went T2 cause I dont see any future for the scorpian as well. I am sure that T2 is the next in the chute to get whacked but hopefully that will take a bit longer so I can pay off my ship at least this time.


Why the everliving crap would you want to passive tank a BS?!


1.) I have a sick sense of humor
2.) To prove people Wrong
3. To get people to say WTF would you do that for??? Laughing



Marcus Gwynn
Posted - 2009.12.01 22:18:00 - [1029]
 

Originally by: Ezekiel Sulastin

Why the everliving crap would you want to passive tank a BS?!


1. The pilot doesnt have to learn new skills if he was passively tanking a smaller ship before then
2. Passive tank USED to have a much higher max defense
3. Ignores Neuts / Vamps

archangel1004
Posted - 2009.12.12 20:31:00 - [1030]
 

Im going to Jita.....Sad to buy a navy scorp Sad coz my rattlesnake is up 4 sale Sad.....i loved my rattlesnake Sad .....had it 3 years Sad 65 kms torpedoes for 3 yearsSmile but its all gone now Sad..... on my way 2 JitaSad..........

James Razor
Amarr
Fallen Angel's
White Noise.
Posted - 2009.12.13 19:37:00 - [1031]
 

Well, CCP does not care about our opinion.

I bought a Navy Apoc a while ago, loved the ship, paid a lot of ISK to get me a full set of Amarr Navy Intems (Hardeners, Guns, etc.).
Now i can not even look at it, it looks simply awfull. I bought a golden vessel, not one that looks like a little child did throw ink on a white hull.

Btw. everyone not happy with the changes should start filling some petitions. Maybee we can annoy them enough so they react.

In recent times CCP seems to get a fable to ruin ships (-> Naglfar, Moros (Drone nerv was not even in the patch notes), Motherships). I realy think this has gone far enoughEvil or Very Mad

William Caldon
Caldari
Golden Cross Enterprises
Posted - 2009.12.14 05:46:00 - [1032]
 

Originally by: James Razor
Well, CCP does not care about our opinion.

I bought a Navy Apoc a while ago, loved the ship, paid a lot of ISK to get me a full set of Amarr Navy Intems (Hardeners, Guns, etc.).
Now i can not even look at it, it looks simply awfull. I bought a golden vessel, not one that looks like a little child did throw ink on a white hull.

Btw. everyone not happy with the changes should start filling some petitions. Maybee we can annoy them enough so they react.

In recent times CCP seems to get a fable to ruin ships (-> Naglfar, Moros (Drone nerv was not even in the patch notes), Motherships). I realy think this has gone far enoughEvil or Very Mad


Uhh, so the greenish color was ok?

Guess it all comes down to taste and that CCP will never satisfy in this regard.

Spc One
Gallente
Posted - 2009.12.14 08:06:00 - [1033]
 

Edited by: Spc One on 14/12/2009 08:16:05
Take a look at Apocalypse Imperial Issue or Armageddon imperial issue.
It's covered in gold and it looks awesome in dominion.
Cool

James Razor
Amarr
Fallen Angel's
White Noise.
Posted - 2009.12.14 11:12:00 - [1034]
 

Imperial Issue? LoL^^

Ever heard that these ships are not available anymore for normal players?

And tbh. i dont care about someones taste. The point is: i bought a golden vessel and did not ask that this is changed. If u buy yourself a car and the manufacturer comes after half a year and repaints it in a color u dont like at all, would u accept this?

I want my ship back as it was. Navy Apoc was fine as it was, there was no need for changes. And especialy not colorwise.

And btw.: I also agree that the changes to the caldari vessels are a mess. The race with the best shield systems should not be *in line* with other races. There shields should be better than anything else that comes from the other races.

(Btw.: CCP should sometimes read their own background storys and stuff. Seems they forget some parts, i.e. Caldari = best shields ingame / Amarr = The Golden Fleet)

Anhenka
Minmatar
Burning Napalm
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2009.12.17 06:17:00 - [1035]
 

eh....if im wrong shoot me, but I belive almost, if not all the "Amarr Navy _____"s have been replaced with "Imperial _____"s now. I know my Amarr Navy LAR is now called Imperial LAR, and the same went for the ships, such as the slicer (only ship I know changed for sure, I dont fly amarr)


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