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minerboob
Gallente
Whiskey Loners
Whiskey Loners Alliance
Posted - 2009.08.31 23:03:00 - [1]
 

My guess since it shows an Orca in the screenshot that there will be Z E R O new upgrades for us miners. The only reason the Orca is in there is to ____ us off when there are no mining upgrades.

watch...

Sig Sour
Posted - 2009.08.31 23:08:00 - [2]
 

The devs promised they would listen to the suggestions about ORE faction stuff and the addition of a Gas Cloud Harvesting ship from Syndicate. So don't worry, they promised.

prof:
Originally by: CCPDevelopers
Yes we will do everything sig sour suggests, as he is very intelligent and good looking and his ideas about adding some ORE faction stuff and a Syndicate Gas Cloud Harvesting ship will be in the Domination expansion, we promise.


There you have it.

Khemul Zula
Amarr
Keisen Trade League
Posted - 2009.08.31 23:08:00 - [3]
 

This is exactly why CCP should stop announcing upcoming projects and releases.

It never ends well.

Another Liberthas
Caldari
Creative Cookie Procuring
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2009.08.31 23:09:00 - [4]
 

Miners don't need upgrades.
What do miners do? They mine.
What do miners NEED to do? Mine.
Miners can already do all they need to do, hence, GTFO, you get no upgrades.

minerboob
Gallente
Whiskey Loners
Whiskey Loners Alliance
Posted - 2009.08.31 23:11:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Another Liberthas
Miners don't need upgrades.
What do miners do? They mine.
What do miners NEED to do? Mine.
Miners can already do all they need to do, hence, GTFO, you get no upgrades.


Faster, better, stronger my man. I have stopped my mining career because it does not make enough isk. When they make mining comp to mission running im in. Maybe some of those !!!UPGRADES!!! would help. der der der

Another Liberthas
Caldari
Creative Cookie Procuring
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2009.08.31 23:12:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: minerboob
Originally by: Another Liberthas
Miners don't need upgrades.
What do miners do? They mine.
What do miners NEED to do? Mine.
Miners can already do all they need to do, hence, GTFO, you get no upgrades.


Faster, better, stronger my man. I have stopped my mining career because it does not make enough isk. When they make mining comp to mission running im in. Maybe some of those !!!UPGRADES!!! would help. der der der


There's not exactly a mineral shortage, is there?

P.S. I'm not your "man".

minerboob
Gallente
Whiskey Loners
Whiskey Loners Alliance
Posted - 2009.08.31 23:14:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Another Liberthas
Originally by: minerboob
Originally by: Another Liberthas
Miners don't need upgrades.
What do miners do? They mine.
What do miners NEED to do? Mine.
Miners can already do all they need to do, hence, GTFO, you get no upgrades.


Faster, better, stronger my man. I have stopped my mining career because it does not make enough isk. When they make mining comp to mission running im in. Maybe some of those !!!UPGRADES!!! would help. der der der


There's not exactly a mineral shortage, is there?

P.S. I'm not your "man".


Uhm.. there is an ISK shortage. In my bank account.

and yes.. you -are- my man, my man.

Another Liberthas
Caldari
Creative Cookie Procuring
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2009.08.31 23:15:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: minerboob
Originally by: Another Liberthas
Originally by: minerboob


Faster, better, stronger my man. I have stopped my mining career because it does not make enough isk. When they make mining comp to mission running im in. Maybe some of those !!!UPGRADES!!! would help. der der der


There's not exactly a mineral shortage, is there?

P.S. I'm not your "man".


Uhm.. there is an ISK shortage. In my bank account.

and yes.. you -are- my man, my man.


Your ISK shortage does not imply there is a need for mining upgrades, it implies you need to learn how to make ISK.

minerboob
Gallente
Whiskey Loners
Whiskey Loners Alliance
Posted - 2009.08.31 23:16:00 - [9]
 

quote]

Your ISK shortage does not imply there is a need for mining upgrades, it implies you need to learn how to make ISK.


Uhm.. I do. Its called missioning. Did you happen to see the part about "I have stopped my mining career because it does not make enough isk. When they make mining comp to mission running im in. Maybe some of those !!!UPGRADES!!! would help. der der der"

DER DER DER

Another Liberthas
Caldari
Creative Cookie Procuring
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2009.08.31 23:19:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Another Liberthas on 31/08/2009 23:20:14
Edited by: Another Liberthas on 31/08/2009 23:19:50
Edited by: Another Liberthas on 31/08/2009 23:19:29
Originally by: minerboob

Originally by: Another Liberthas

Your ISK shortage does not imply there is a need for mining upgrades, it implies you need to learn how to make ISK.


Uhm.. I do. Its called missioning. Did you happen to see the part about "I have stopped my mining career because it does not make enough isk. When they make mining comp to mission running im in. Maybe some of those !!!UPGRADES!!! would help. der der der"

DER DER DER


For one, learn to quote.
For two, if your wallet is fine, then why did you say
Quote:
Uhm.. there is an ISK shortage. In my bank account.
?
For three, I see no problem with the mining yields currently. You got your orca and your mining bonuses a while ago.
For four, what the hell does
Quote:
DER DER DER
mean? It makes you sound like a ******.

EDIT: Dude, your quote broke MY quote.

Spaztick
Terminal Impact
Kairakau
Posted - 2009.08.31 23:20:00 - [11]
 

Miners don't make enough money so they stop mining.
Mining falls off, so prices of minerals go up.
Mining becomes profitable, so miners start mining.

minerboob
Gallente
Whiskey Loners
Whiskey Loners Alliance
Posted - 2009.08.31 23:20:00 - [12]
 

yep.. this is not a chat between me and you. I am no longer responding to you. You must be a republican to boot.

Another Liberthas
Caldari
Creative Cookie Procuring
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2009.08.31 23:22:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: minerboob
yep.. this is not a chat between me and you. I am no longer responding to you. You must be a republican to boot.


Nom nom nom, ad hominem.
Furthermore, that counts as an admission that your argument sucks.

Soporo
Caldari
Posted - 2009.08.31 23:25:00 - [14]
 

The best boost to miners would be the repeal/change of the Drone regions. Mining with guns against Drones crashed the LowSuck mineral market.

Mining ships/Mining should be the best way to get minerals, not ratting...

Amitious Turkey
Gallente
TarNec
Posted - 2009.08.31 23:25:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: minerboob
You must be a republican to boot.


What the heck does that have to do with mining, you boob?

Troll, 2/10.And the 2 only because I agree there should be more variety in mining stuffz.

Brolly
Caldari
5ER3NITY INC
Posted - 2009.08.31 23:26:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Another Liberthas
Miners don't need upgrades.
What do miners do? They mine.
What do miners NEED to do? Mine.
Miners can already do all they need to do, hence, GTFO, you get no upgrades.


That argument is epic fail, if that was the case, when eve was released it had ships, guns ammo and upgrades, therefore there was no need for t2 or t3, any ships beyond cruiser, frig and battleship.

Another Liberthas
Caldari
Creative Cookie Procuring
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2009.08.31 23:26:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Amitious Turkey
Originally by: minerboob
You must be a republican to boot.


What the heck does that have to do with mining, you boob?



Republicans hate mining. And Chribba. I read it on the internet. Smile

Another Liberthas
Caldari
Creative Cookie Procuring
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2009.08.31 23:26:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Brolly
Originally by: Another Liberthas
Miners don't need upgrades.
What do miners do? They mine.
What do miners NEED to do? Mine.
Miners can already do all they need to do, hence, GTFO, you get no upgrades.


That argument is epic fail, if that was the case, when eve was released it had ships, guns ammo and upgrades, therefore there was no need for t2 or t3, any ships beyond cruiser, frig and battleship.


You know, that actually sounds fun.

Khemul Zula
Amarr
Keisen Trade League
Posted - 2009.08.31 23:34:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Another Liberthas
Originally by: Amitious Turkey
Originally by: minerboob
You must be a republican to boot.


What the heck does that have to do with mining, you boob?



Republicans hate mining. And Chribba. I read it on the internet. Smile

Everyone hates Chribba. It's just that the hate is so great, so massive, that it warps reality until what comes out looks suspiciously like love.

This is basically just the reverse process of what the body does to food.

Amitious Turkey
Gallente
TarNec
Posted - 2009.08.31 23:43:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Khemul Zula
Originally by: Another Liberthas
Originally by: Amitious Turkey
Originally by: minerboob
You must be a republican to boot.


What the heck does that have to do with mining, you boob?



Republicans hate mining. And Chribba. I read it on the internet. Smile

Everyone hates Chribba. It's just that the hate is so great, so massive, that it warps reality until what comes out looks suspiciously like love.

This is basically just the reverse process of what the body does to food.


I was about to say, I'm a republican...Shocked

Yalezorn
Gallente
Posted - 2009.09.01 00:01:00 - [21]
 

Any upgrade to miners will destabalize the market for about a day and a half, after which every serious miner will have the new stuff, causing the market to go back to where it's been for the last half decade.

Mining is extraordinarily easy. It does not need to be made easier.

wickedpheonix
Caldari
Guy Fawkes Trust Fund
31ST Reliables Division
Posted - 2009.09.01 00:25:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Yalezorn
Any upgrade to miners will destabalize the market for about a day and a half, after which every serious miner will have the new stuff, causing the market to go back to where it's been for the last half decade.

Mining is extraordinarily easy. It does not need to be made easier.


Some variety could be nice though, i.e. a Mining Drone ship or a ship that sacrifices some yield in exchange for some extreme range - or just put this all in a t3 mining ship. Some kind of post-Exhumer, i.e. a ship that requires a skill that requires Exhumers 5, would be an interesting addition as well. The real challenge is to do all this without displacing the Hulk yet while keeping the new ships relevant.

Muscaat
EVE Markets
Posted - 2009.09.01 02:05:00 - [23]
 

Was I the only one who read the title of this thread and started thinking evil thoughts about NodeLists and NS/non-NS methods?

...Yes, just me then. I'll go back in my box now...

Rotnac
Caldari
GoonWaffe
SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
Posted - 2009.09.01 04:39:00 - [24]
 

Mining is pretty ****ed right now, though. It does need work on.

D3F4ULT
Gallente
Pegasus Mining Korp
Posted - 2009.09.01 05:17:00 - [25]
 

I mine, It's boring, but I like it simple. I just wish I could receive more from it somehow since I am putting my personal time and effort towards it. I know most of you will say, "Change your profession". But, regardless it's still apart of the game that makes this universe, so the problem is a universal issue to miners.

Then you have inflation with botters. =/ But not much you can do there either.

Maybe a User interface change up, or something to encourage people to get together and mine. I'm not sure exactly, lol Lasers are only so fun for so long. I remember the days of using little Frigate lazers and hearing the roar of Strip miners in the background ^_^

Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
Posted - 2009.09.01 09:14:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Super Whopper on 01/09/2009 09:16:56
Originally by: Another Liberthas
Originally by: Brolly
Originally by: Another Liberthas
Miners don't need upgrades.
What do miners do? They mine.
What do miners NEED to do? Mine.
Miners can already do all they need to do, hence, GTFO, you get no upgrades.


That argument is epic fail, if that was the case, when eve was released it had ships, guns ammo and upgrades, therefore there was no need for t2 or t3, any ships beyond cruiser, frig and battleship.


You know, that actually sounds fun.


Actually Goons proved that a fleet of noob ships can take anything on. Why need frigates when you can have free noob ships? Welcome to Noob Ship Online and if it's so fun you now have your own game to play.

Who was it who needs to GTFO again?

Roemy Schneider
Vanishing Point.
Posted - 2009.09.01 09:33:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Khemul Zula
This is exactly why CCP should stop announcing upcoming projects and releases.

It never ends well.
you're so right, just not in the way you meant it -.-

Bodwad
Gallente
Posted - 2009.09.01 10:50:00 - [28]
 

They need to change the way mining works in my opinion.

1) Remove refining at stations and have the mining lasers extract the ore itself. Refining skills effect how much is extracted

2) Multiple ore in eash asteroid of varying levels. Why would an asteroid only have one ore? Asteroids with multiple ores would be more realistic, mining lasers extract based on pilots skills and ratio of the ore's in the roid itself.

3) T2 lasers allow a miner to extract only one type of ore from an asteroid much more efficiently

4) I we say the laser operates on frequencies we could even have the mining player adjusting bars to get more of what he/she wants. This gives miners more to do.

5) Asteroid scanners scan individual asteroids for their specs e.g 50098 Trit, 876 Pyerite, 5 megacyte. This means miners can hunt through belts for what they want, again giving them more to do as they hunt for the ultimate roid.

I have mined alot in the past but its boring. We need to remove the costant hauling and have the miners do more if they want more. With these changes we could have larger belts, if people want to just strip everything they can but it allows more active players to pick and choose. Very Happy

Thats what I think anyway. Big changes but I think refining in stations and pos's is pointless. Could potentially reduce lag too as not so many people will be docking undocking and refining etc. Although that could be countered by the refining on the ship, I dont really know, much more client side though I would think ugh

Bodwad

Saartje Sarel
Posted - 2009.09.01 10:58:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Bodwad
They need to change the way mining works in my opinion.

1) Remove refining at stations and have the mining lasers extract the ore itself. Refining skills effect how much is extracted

2) Multiple ore in eash asteroid of varying levels. Why would an asteroid only have one ore? Asteroids with multiple ores would be more realistic, mining lasers extract based on pilots skills and ratio of the ore's in the roid itself.

3) T2 lasers allow a miner to extract only one type of ore from an asteroid much more efficiently

4) I we say the laser operates on frequencies we could even have the mining player adjusting bars to get more of what he/she wants. This gives miners more to do.

5) Asteroid scanners scan individual asteroids for their specs e.g 50098 Trit, 876 Pyerite, 5 megacyte. This means miners can hunt through belts for what they want, again giving them more to do as they hunt for the ultimate roid.

I have mined alot in the past but its boring. We need to remove the costant hauling and have the miners do more if they want more. With these changes we could have larger belts, if people want to just strip everything they can but it allows more active players to pick and choose. Very Happy

Thats what I think anyway. Big changes but I think refining in stations and pos's is pointless. Could potentially reduce lag too as not so many people will be docking undocking and refining etc. Although that could be countered by the refining on the ship, I dont really know, much more client side though I would think ugh

Bodwad


Fantastic idea, one of several I have read ..

The utterly simplistic and far from realistic mining mechanic in game at present are well over-due a make-over.

Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
Posted - 2009.09.01 11:56:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Bodwad
They need to change the way mining works in my opinion.

1) Remove refining at stations and have the mining lasers extract the ore itself. Refining skills effect how much is extracted

2) Multiple ore in eash asteroid of varying levels. Why would an asteroid only have one ore? Asteroids with multiple ores would be more realistic, mining lasers extract based on pilots skills and ratio of the ore's in the roid itself.

3) T2 lasers allow a miner to extract only one type of ore from an asteroid much more efficiently

4) I we say the laser operates on frequencies we could even have the mining player adjusting bars to get more of what he/she wants. This gives miners more to do.

5) Asteroid scanners scan individual asteroids for their specs e.g 50098 Trit, 876 Pyerite, 5 megacyte. This means miners can hunt through belts for what they want, again giving them more to do as they hunt for the ultimate roid.

I have mined alot in the past but its boring. We need to remove the costant hauling and have the miners do more if they want more. With these changes we could have larger belts, if people want to just strip everything they can but it allows more active players to pick and choose. Very Happy

Thats what I think anyway. Big changes but I think refining in stations and pos's is pointless. Could potentially reduce lag too as not so many people will be docking undocking and refining etc. Although that could be countered by the refining on the ship, I dont really know, much more client side though I would think ugh

Bodwad


As a professional miner I like this idea but until CCP implement something like this you have two very nice haulers: Orca and Rorqual.


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