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Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2009.08.30 22:58:00 - [1]
 

I'm onlly posting this cos eve is down and I thought I'd test a smaller file size encode....

So I have battlecruiser II and medium LAZOR II just so I can fly the sexy harbinger class internet spaceship.

I'm actually a frig pilot, Someone in local was calling me out as a wimp for not fighting in bigger ships so I sets me up the harb of doom. It worked out ok.

please provide positive flameage on how im doingitwrong.

RedSplat
Posted - 2009.08.30 23:24:00 - [2]
 

Shield buffer brutix is a good boat, dont knock it just because you beat it in active Harb; although BC 2 is amusing. Twisted Evil

Whats the native res yo are recording in?

and inb4 moved to my eve



FU22
The 8th Order
Posted - 2009.08.30 23:25:00 - [3]
 

Was a nice fight Smile

Mr Reason
Posted - 2009.08.30 23:27:00 - [4]
 

Sadly, the shield brutix is the only proper brutix. I wish you could put an armor tank on it without having to resort to peashooters and hanging a "slow boat, wait for it" sign on the back. I really do.

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2009.08.30 23:31:00 - [5]
 

thanks and thanks and

It's 1280x1024, exported with lagarith to lossless avi, stuck through the capone/shikari autoEncoder on low speed, medium quality. Seems nice.

I can see the appeal of that shield brutix, with all the damage mods, but it lacks propulsion which seems too open to abuse for my liking.

Mersault
Gallente
The Pie Factory
Posted - 2009.08.31 00:07:00 - [6]
 

Nice vid

Omara Otawan
Posted - 2009.08.31 00:09:00 - [7]
 

Whats wrong with shield brutix? Its the proper way to fly the ship...

Lana Torrin
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2009.08.31 00:29:00 - [8]
 

Gank brutix is best brutix.. Tank? Thats what plates are for...

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2009.08.31 00:29:00 - [9]
 

IMO a shield brutix shold have mids of MWD/Disruptor/LSE/Invuln. You can probbly get away with a second LSE if you try.

-Liang

Mr Reason
Posted - 2009.08.31 01:09:00 - [10]
 

[Brutix, shield]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Reactor Control Unit II

10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Warp Scrambler II
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Core Defence Field Extender I
Core Defence Field Extender I
Core Defence Field Extender I


Vespa EC-600 x5

Spectre3353
Gallente
Heavy Risk...
Posted - 2009.08.31 01:11:00 - [11]
 

Shield tank Brutix is fantastic.

Jared D'Uroth
Minmatar
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.08.31 01:20:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Mr Reason
[Brutix, shield]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Reactor Control Unit II

10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Warp Scrambler II
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Core Defence Field Extender I
Core Defence Field Extender I
Core Defence Field Extender I


Vespa EC-600 x5



This, but maybe with hammers if in a gang. TBQFH, the only way to really fly a brutix.

Lana Torrin
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2009.08.31 01:25:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Mr Reason
[Brutix, shield]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Reactor Control Unit II

10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Warp Scrambler II
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Core Defence Field Extender I
Core Defence Field Extender I
Core Defence Field Extender I


Vespa EC-600 x5



OK well lets see.. Quick EFT Whoring for an armor tank setup gives me this..

[Brutix, Setup 1]
Damage Control II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

Stasis Webifier II
Warp Disruptor II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 400
10MN MicroWarpdrive II

Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Anti-Explosive Pump I
Trimark Armor Pump I
Trimark Armor Pump I


Hammerhead II x5


Matchup:
Slightly less DPS (615 to 701 because of the smaller guns)
No ECM Drones
Slower (only by a bit)
No EM Hole (which only matters if your opponent is smart)
Booster fed so its 'stable' for longer. Also makes it slightly newt/nos immune.
Close to the same EHP.
Double the reps.

Its your choice really.. My shield skill suck though so I know which one I would go with.

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2009.08.31 01:45:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Liang Nuren on 31/08/2009 01:47:06
Originally by: Lana Torrin

OK well lets see.. Quick EFT Whoring for an armor tank setup gives me this..

[Brutix, Setup 1]
Damage Control II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

Stasis Webifier II
Warp Disruptor II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 400
10MN MicroWarpdrive II

Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Anti-Explosive Pump I
Trimark Armor Pump I
Trimark Armor Pump I


Hammerhead II x5


Matchup:
Slightly less DPS (615 to 701 because of the smaller guns)
No ECM Drones
Slower (only by a bit)
No EM Hole (which only matters if your opponent is smart)
Booster fed so its 'stable' for longer. Also makes it slightly newt/nos immune.
Close to the same EHP.
Double the reps.

Its your choice really.. My shield skill suck though so I know which one I would go with.


Comments:
- You should be able to pull off Ions and an 800 plate.
- Plated and armor rigged Brutixes are slow, both in agility and in top speed. This is the key reason to fly a Brutix.

-Liang

Ed: Such sig #fail... jeeze!

Lana Torrin
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2009.08.31 01:51:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Liang Nuren

Comments:
- You should be able to pull off Ions and an 800 plate.
- Plated and armor rigged Brutixes are slow, both in agility and in top speed. This is the key reason to fly a Brutix.


Its entirely possible you can.. 30 seconds of EFT whoring does not a good ship make.. My point was that shield brutix isn't always the best brutix and you can make good armor brutixes..

Also I'd say the 7 blasters on a basically cruiser sized ship is the reason to fly a brutix.. But I do get your point.

Mr Reason
Posted - 2009.08.31 01:52:00 - [16]
 

That's not a fair comparison, mainly because of the drones. If you switch to hammers you'll pump out 860 dps. which is quite a difference, over a 3rd more than your setup. Also it'll be more agile which you really need on a blaster BC (almost BS agility with cruiser optimal+falloff).

Also I'm not really interested in an EM hole, unless you're being hit with scorch or aurora it'll still be half EM/half thermal (ish) meaning you're better off adding thermal as that's also half of hybrid damage type. Putting a Brutix in a fleet/medium range fight is a waste of time. in other situations (small gang piracy, solo ganking) you'll have less range issues and thus less 'scorch issues'.

Apart from that you ARE slower full speed, you ARE slower to align (in both cases not by a lot) but more importantly, because you switch back to Electrons you lose a WHOLE lot of range (and a tiny bit of damage). That extra range is VERY useful because it means you'll do decent damage at the edge of webrange (with null, with is a decent option).

I've been trying to make an armor setup that makes sense and I personally HATE passive EHP tanking but shield brutix > armor brutix. Trust me :)

AdmiralJohn
Gallente
Origin of Sanshaa
Posted - 2009.08.31 02:00:00 - [17]
 

And thus the plot thickens.

Lana Torrin
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2009.08.31 02:07:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Lana Torrin on 31/08/2009 02:08:17
Originally by: AdmiralJohn
And thus the plot thickens.

No it doesn't.. Those are all good reasons to run a shield brutix.. Good reasons to run an armor brutix include:
- its a gal ship, so if you have logi support in gang they are probably going to be armor logi..
- An EM hole WILL kill you in a shield tank if your opponent knows what they are doing and can change damage types (lol missiles). Having said that its going to be a tough one to spot fast enough to make a difference.
- 'Slower' is a relative term.. There is no point in being able to hit 'just inside of web range' if your opponent is webbing you so he can get closer and hit you harder..

At no point did I say that a shield tanked brutix was fail, im simply pointing out that an armor tanked one isn't nearly as bad as some people are making it out to be and depends entirely on your skills and fleet composition.

Now a shield tanked thorax.. THATs fail...

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2009.08.31 02:39:00 - [19]
 

This is quite interesting :)

The lol shield Brutix remark more relates to the fact I managed to kill it with lame bc skills. I mean it's not overly big or clever but thought posting that would entertain while the server was down.

Lana Torrin
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2009.08.31 03:20:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Lady Spank
This is quite interesting :)

The lol shield Brutix remark more relates to the fact I managed to kill it with lame bc skills. I mean it's not overly big or clever but thought posting that would entertain while the server was down.

Oh Lady your so fine, your so fine you blow my mind, oh lady!
Also, is that what your OP said?

PostmasterGeneral
Minmatar
yo i'm posting
Posted - 2009.08.31 05:29:00 - [21]
 

shield buffer brutix is the only way to fly one imo

Omara Otawan
Posted - 2009.08.31 06:19:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Omara Otawan on 31/08/2009 06:23:27
The EM-hole is fixed easily by switching one extender rig for an EM-resist one.

Also, make sure to train thermodynamics for this ship, it rips faces off with BC 5.

Lexa Hellfury
Immortal.
Posted - 2009.08.31 06:29:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Omara Otawan
Also, make sure to train thermodynamics for this ship


There's people who don't have Thermodynamics?

Omara Otawan
Posted - 2009.08.31 06:43:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Lexa Hellfury

There's people who don't have Thermodynamics?


You'd be surprised, this skill seems to be almost unknown amongst 0.0 dwellers.

Robert0288
Caldari
R E D E M P T I O N
Black Star Alliance
Posted - 2009.08.31 06:49:00 - [25]
 

thermo what?Embarassed

Rolling Eyes

Loriana Oreless
Posted - 2009.08.31 09:21:00 - [26]
 

Hey.. I popped a T2-fitted Brutix last night with my feebel T1-fitted Cyclone. It was my first kill in EVE (PvP). I was so excited i almost couldnt sleep at all Very Happy

Actually im still jumping around in joy Laughing

PS! This is totally OT and gramatically out of this world.. but im... EXCITED!!! Laughing



Lola Fang
Space Assassination Service
Posted - 2009.08.31 11:49:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Loriana Oreless
Hey.. I popped a T2-fitted Brutix last night with my feebel T1-fitted Cyclone. It was my first kill in EVE (PvP). I was so excited i almost couldnt sleep at all Very Happy

Actually im still jumping around in joy Laughing

PS! This is totally OT and gramatically out of this world.. but im... EXCITED!!! Laughing





You do realise his kids will be wondering what happened to daddy.

Lee Dalton
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.08.31 13:09:00 - [28]
 

Shield Brutix is the best Brutix.

Spectre3353
Gallente
Heavy Risk...
Posted - 2009.08.31 14:35:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Lana Torrin
Now a shield tanked thorax.. THATs fail...


But... I like the shield tanked Thorax :( Why do I always have to do the webbing myself?

Lee Dalton
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.08.31 14:36:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Lana Torrin
Now a shield tanked thorax.. THATs fail...


Shield tanked thorax is best thorax.


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