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titanstory
Amarr
Cursed Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
Posted - 2009.08.31 11:24:00 - [31]
 

may i dock in 5h now ?

Ayden Messura
Gallente
Alcatraz Inc.
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2009.08.31 11:39:00 - [32]
 

as soon as eve game mechanics take into account byrn is failing and sov 4 dosnt matter for them.

Silent Dodger
Caldari
Bad Robot Inc.
Red Alliance
Posted - 2009.08.31 11:46:00 - [33]
 

about Byrn - they were good guys, once, then switched sides (their CEO was talking something about they should play smart ...). So, you know, **** happens Very Happy

I wish they just evacuate, regroup, and try again. And, you know, maybe, some day, we can become friends again Wink

titanstory
Amarr
Cursed Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
Posted - 2009.08.31 11:49:00 - [34]
 

never they are traitors !

Darius silverbolt
Caldari
Aura of Darkness
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2009.08.31 12:06:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: titanstory
never they are traitors !


The OLD SE that made the call to flip on TCF/RA is gone leadership wise at least. I wasn't a huge fan of flipping but most people know what the situation was when the call was made. When -A- kept the R-64 moon, the deal was done we got screwed. Not that I blame -A- for wanting the moon but it hurt is in more than one way not getting it.

Did it hurt us? Yes, but the other side of that coin would have been painful as well.

The real answer is the covert Ops gangs were very effective. TNT dedication to "break BYRN" was rather impressive.

When the leadership just totally turn over and the most of the original corps left it was a very hard situation to try to take over with and any measure of success.

SO hats off to RA, MM, Goons, TNT, Minor Threat, and others in case I forgot them on taking down BYRN.

It was fun either way. For me my time in EvE is over for now. Real life for me has been keeping me busy and I enter a state of Retirement for a while.

Good luck to all you 0.0 alliances and we [RUKON] shall see you in space again either red or blue.

Max Wilson
Caldari
Cryptonym Sleepers
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2009.08.31 12:22:00 - [36]
 

Edited by: Max Wilson on 31/08/2009 12:24:53
Quote:
may i dock in 5h now ?

soon..

Quote:
TNT dedication to "break BYRN" was rather impressive.

Well. With that kind of fittings (Killmail) it really gets more fun than duty(I've had great fun from the killmails). And since u guys backstabbed us, we had nogthing else to do.

RIP BYRN

Ayden Messura
Gallente
Alcatraz Inc.
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2009.08.31 12:23:00 - [37]
 

well ur an alright guy in my book since u can take it like a man. see you on teh battlefield Twisted Evil

Max Wilson
Caldari
Cryptonym Sleepers
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2009.08.31 12:26:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: Max Wilson on 31/08/2009 12:26:09
agree with ayden.. Thumps up for the guys giving us the good fights.

Lokajin
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2009.08.31 13:06:00 - [39]
 

Well from my time in BYRN when we first took WC it was always a dictatorship with what I would call the *Good Ole Boy* influences in decisions. El'rac was always easy to manipulate thats why SE was vulnerable. Also the fact that he referred to himself as the god of the alliance kinda alienated himself against most of the BLACK corps that joined us especially modro who hated him with a passion. I happened to see the fail of SE coming a long time ago and jumped ship after i saw how quickly Agressiondot made the alliance fall apart until TCF came and saved SE. ( mind you they turned on TCF shortly afterwards ironic eh?)SE at that point was done leadership was officially kaput. So this has been long long overdue. To all my friends in BYRN told you to get out sooner to all my enemies told you it was over after aggressiondot

Lokajin

Selinus
Amarr
Russian Military Technology
SOLAR WING
Posted - 2009.08.31 14:15:00 - [40]
 

Quote:
as soon as eve game mechanics take into account byrn is failing and sov 4 dosnt matter for them.


And you'l think TNT Will get the space?

Ambre Blanche
Amarr
ICE is Coming to EVE
Tau Ceti Federation
Posted - 2009.08.31 14:23:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: grift nova
scorched earth what happened

Must be partly our fault. You see, we can't find a single TCF member who would be willing to alarm clock to save this Alliance again Rolling Eyes

Recollector
Gallente
Royal Enterprise
Dead Terrorists
Posted - 2009.08.31 14:34:00 - [42]
 

Edited by: Recollector on 31/08/2009 14:38:30
Edited by: Recollector on 31/08/2009 14:35:25
Scorched Earth was not doomed to fail because we changed sides
in the conflict.I agree that El'rac was not a desired leader
by many in the alliance, but he had to choose between getting
steamrolled by Aggro./Atlas or gtfo to empire.

At that point, our allies were RA and TCF...and maybe by extent
NC and Goons.However, RA was in open conflict with ED/IRC and
TCF wouldn't care about Scorched.TCF wasn't even defending
their own space when we changed sides and togheter with Atlas
atacked TCF towers.They had like 3-4 pos gunners...
Considering the above, Scorched could not even hope to get
help from their former allies.

Some might say now that "no way, we would sent mighty fleets
to save u from Atlas & Co."...Yeah, a 12 year old might
beleive them.

We failed (but tbh, took ya some time goonies to do it) only
because conflicts between former FC's and El'rac...and the
conflict was not about changing the sides.
More and more corps left (most of them to yellow to stand
against some cloakers, and they were full of ratters and
carebears) and we weren't able to have more then 30 ppl in
gangs.
Even so, Atlas helped us more then we would hope they will
do.AAA was also couple of times to defend us.Not to mention
that smaller alliances also helped us, like CoW or Gentelman's Club.

There is no doubt that we will lose the space.We were the
only thorn left in NC and Goons plans against Atlas.
Nobody can expect an allaince to stand against Goons, RZR,
MM, Minor Threat, xDx ,PL and RA combined forces.

Scorched will be kicked out of Wicked Creek...but not because
our allies left us or because we changed sides.
Its because David cannot defeat Goliath in EvE online.

Azzatu
Minmatar
Royal Enterprise
Art of Defiance
Posted - 2009.08.31 14:37:00 - [43]
 

Edited by: Azzatu on 31/08/2009 14:57:29
For my first 0.0 alliance it was great! However the slippery slope started the day we did that standing reset (im not saying this is the cause) and now look where we are.
Its been great fun :)

EVE Byrn



Cheekything
Gallente
Black Lance
Posted - 2009.08.31 14:39:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Recollector
stuff about terrible allies


Burn D1rt are loosing oh noooo?

marxist revolutionary
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.08.31 14:40:00 - [45]
 

Edited by: marxist revolutionary on 31/08/2009 14:49:34
Edited by: marxist revolutionary on 31/08/2009 14:40:50
Originally by: Recollector

or because we changed sides.


that's exactly why. TNT didn't switch sides, was reduced to not having space for a while and they're in a better position than you.

Quote:

Its because David cannot defeat Goliath in EvE online.


Removed. Navigator

your 100 man gangs couldn't handle people in far smaller numbers than you roaming through your home systems at will and shutting down your main constellation. your numbers, corps, FCs and leaders didn't get whittled down because of a big invasion but because of terrible leadership and organization. you stopped functioning as an alliance long before teh evil goonie naptrain even noticed you and rolled into wicked creek, hope this helps!

Vile rat
Amarr
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.08.31 14:56:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Recollector
but he had to choose between getting
steamrolled by Aggro./Atlas or gtfo to empire.



You chose 'stuff' and 'space' over friends and a predictable result occured.

Zagum Darkfin
Caldari
Ghosting Corp
Posted - 2009.08.31 15:21:00 - [47]
 

Oh darn. I remember I had a pleasant experience with a Sc0rched member in a WH about a month ago. He had scanned us down and was talking in local. He threatened us with bringing in a "Fleet" to kill us. We said HI back and he shut up. True Story. Cool

The0
Minmatar
Low Security Suicide
Posted - 2009.08.31 15:23:00 - [48]
 

burnt dirt has always been terrible.

Ahistaja
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.08.31 15:34:00 - [49]
 

to be fair, you BYRN dudes seem to be taking this in stride for the most part

next time, don't flip unless you're absolutely certain that your new allies have got your back all the way. (hint: -A- and Atlas don't have a very good track record in this regard)

e; what Vile Rat said

GF and GL and YARRRR!!

Xanath Zing
Caldari
the CHUPACABRA fiasco
Posted - 2009.08.31 15:57:00 - [50]
 

Hey,
Dont know about you guys but I had a blast trying to shoot you all while you guys took down the jammer in 4-e the other day.. never used pos guns before so it was fun to do that... also, i have never been in a sytem that had over 600 at a time so that was also a cool experience,

next time will take pictures haha

Later...

Zing

Asyrdin Harate
Minmatar
Aura of Darkness
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2009.08.31 16:32:00 - [51]
 

BYRNed out

Yakoff
Caldari
Alcatraz Inc.
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2009.08.31 16:33:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Selinus
Quote:
as soon as eve game mechanics take into account byrn is failing and sov 4 dosnt matter for them.


And you'l think TNT Will get the space?


Yakoff shakes magic 8-ball.
Reply hazy, try again.

Darth Syphils
Amarr
Noshikkan
Posted - 2009.08.31 19:52:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: Darth Syphils on 31/08/2009 19:52:27
Originally by: marxist revolutionary
Edited by: marxist revolutionary on 31/08/2009 14:49:34
Edited by: marxist revolutionary on 31/08/2009 14:40:50
Originally by: Recollector

or because we changed sides.


that's exactly why. TNT didn't switch sides, was reduced to not having space for a while and they're in a better position than you.

TNT didn't exist when we made those standing changes, Mongoloid.

Other people have already said this but i have to say it gain. We saved TCF space on our own without TCF support the first time aggressiondot tried to invade it.

Second time they came with a lot of friends and attacked us directly. We could not handle 350 man fleets with 3 titans on our own so we asked TCF for help and they came through for us.

We got word that AAA, aggro and atlas would be invading WC. RA was tied up with IRC/ED and TCF said they would not help us. If we didn't flip flop then SE would have been dead 4 months ago.

Innominate
Amarr
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.08.31 20:10:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Recollector

Its because David cannot defeat Goliath in EvE online.


Let me tell you the story of a bunch of newbie frigate pilots in syndicate, and what happened to the alliances who used them for target practice.

Greenspan
Caldari
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Posted - 2009.08.31 20:36:00 - [55]
 

Wow so goonies naptrain all of eve to conquer it!


/ hands u some pancakes.

Machine Delta
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.08.31 20:46:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Darth Syphils

TNT didn't exist when we made those standing changes, Mongoloid.

Other people have already said this but i have to say it gain. We saved TCF space on our own without TCF support the first time aggressiondot tried to invade it.

Second time they came with a lot of friends and attacked us directly. We could not handle 350 man fleets with 3 titans on our own so we asked TCF for help and they came through for us.

We got word that AAA, aggro and atlas would be invading WC. RA was tied up with IRC/ED and TCF said they would not help us. If we didn't flip flop then SE would have been dead 4 months ago.



BYRN wouldn't be dead, they would be moving back into their old space right now and would have actually been PVPing for the past 4 months instead of sitting around staying docked due to cloakers and sending out 10-20 pilots everytime AAA or Atlas showed up to save one of their towers.

grift nova
Caldari
The Ankou
Raiden.
Posted - 2009.08.31 21:22:00 - [57]
 

wow i never thought i would actually agree with goons but i do.Shocked

Max Wilson
Caldari
Cryptonym Sleepers
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2009.08.31 22:28:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Xanath Zing
Hey,
Dont know about you guys but I had a blast trying to shoot you all while you guys took down the jammer in 4-e the other day.. never used pos guns before so it was fun to do that... also, i have never been in a sytem that had over 600 at a time so that was also a cool experience,

next time will take pictures haha

Later...

Zing


U never been in jita? it goes 800 2 minutes after dt.

Juilus Carnius
Caldari
Doomheim.
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2009.08.31 22:48:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: titanstory
may i dock in 5h now ?


Are you ever going to get your carrier back?

Darth Syphils
Amarr
Noshikkan
Posted - 2009.09.01 18:59:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: titanstory
never they are traitors !
Titanstory, can you tell us a story about your Titan?


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