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Redbad
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2009.08.28 22:22:00 - [121]
 

Originally by: LaVista Vista
But I seem to recall Ray stating several times that we are looking into that option.


We? Don't tell me you are still in this Ebank stuff after all that's been said and done.

Bran Breege
Minmatar
Shimago Domingas Corporation
Posted - 2009.08.28 22:24:00 - [122]
 

I believe that Lavista is possibly the worst perpetrator here, a real prince among the "MD Community" posing as a neutral representative on the CSM in favour of all MD etc when behind their backs he has stolen isk and been party, directly or indirectly, knowingly or unknowingly in RMT. I am surprised that CCP have not dealt with him summarily.

JitaBum
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2009.08.28 22:36:00 - [123]
 

Originally by: Bran Breege
I believe that Lavista is possibly the worst perpetrator here, a real prince among the "MD Community" posing as a neutral representative on the CSM in favour of all MD etc when behind their backs he has stolen isk and been party, directly or indirectly, knowingly or unknowingly in RMT. I am surprised that CCP have not dealt with him summarily.

Personally I doubt this but he did leave Ebank at the most opportune time.

I think Ebank for LaVista was intended to be a quirky footnote on his C.V; 'Director for a large bank corporation within a virtial world' isn't completely without merit. He certainly has treated it very seriously though, whilst many boys his age are probably chasing girlsQuestion

Caelum Mortuos
Gallente
Zero G Research and Development
Posted - 2009.08.28 22:43:00 - [124]
 

Wow lol. How much isk did you lose? Wink

Athre
Minmatar
The Higher Standard
Posted - 2009.08.28 22:56:00 - [125]
 

Block please clarify your charges, the headers are insufficient

Embezzlement and Theft - Ric
Wire Fraud - huh?
Bank Fraud - huh?
Conspiracy to Defraud - Not that I am aware of.
Money Laundering - Any X was Y and I can not tell you what CCP replied because thats forbidden. Unless you mean Ric and then I have no idea

So I say again - Clarification please on EXACTLY what it is you are complaining about.

While you are at it, Please explain to everyone why your stock can not be resold at face value. I know you work hard but that doesnt matter, your stock is not tradable at its journal value. I should know, I picked up a bit at 80k several months back instead of 100k that its suppose to be worth.

Lets talk about that fraud shall we? :) If you are so adamant about liquidating EBANK, how about we start with YOUR venture shares first? okay? :) 100% face value or no deal.

No one at EBANK considers the current plan of action to be easy or a quick fix. It is a long hard road but it is doable. I'm glad to be associated with people whom have such integrity and intestinal fortitude to be able to stand firm and not be assuaged by such paltry guttersnipes.

I use to consider you to be someone of good character Block. You've played EVE for a very long time yet for some reason the knowledge that CCP failed to include a judicial system appears to have eluded you. I for one would have like to make claims against defaulters and certain characters that were banned with EBANK assets(everything other than the RMT). Never mind that it was *I* who managed to get Ric to agree to hand over 20b in personal property (in game) back to EBANK off of "Ricdic" even though "EBANK Ricdic" and "Bouncer Ricdic" were not able to return rightful bank assets.



Muestereate
Posted - 2009.08.28 23:00:00 - [126]
 

Edited by: Muestereate on 28/08/2009 23:01:36
Originally by: Companion Qube
Originally by: Ray McCormack
How do you establish the nearly 10 trillion ISK forfeiture?


It's over 9000 million?

I support a good witch burning as much as anyone, but this is just comedy.

*looks at pitchfork*
*looks at torch*
*lights pitchfork on fire*

RABBLE RABBLE


M whispers in Cubes ear: La Guillotine? LA Guillotine??Twisted EvilTwisted Evil

Fitz VonHeise
Eye Bee Em
Stellar Defense Alliance
Posted - 2009.08.28 23:08:00 - [127]
 


Treelox
Posted - 2009.08.28 23:21:00 - [128]
 

Hurray for me having resisted attempts to recruit me to EBANK's BoD for the last +2 years.


That said, lol at the OP's whole idea. Yeah lets criminally charge the guilty, dock their sec status....ohhh noes....now they will have to use alts to get ships to them from high sec.

Seriously Block, what a joke this thread is, what is even sadder is I suspect your deadly serious.

Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente
Origin.
Black Legion.
Posted - 2009.08.28 23:27:00 - [129]
 

ITT Roleplay.

Fakeedit: First post in EPIC THREAD FAIL

GPszith
Gallente
Pork Chop Express
Posted - 2009.08.28 23:40:00 - [130]
 

Originally by: Fitz VonHeise

I know I am going to take flak for this... but MD people used their reputation to get people to put trillions of isk into EBANK. A court case isn't going to go anywhere but all people of EVE should hold these Past Directors responsible till they make good the loses they caused by their lack of control and oversight.



That is why this is an interesting post. The one thing to be lost in EVE in the MD area is reputation and frankly if people are interested in looking into what happened and finding someone "guilty" it's okay by me. I'm not the anti-elite type but there seems to have been a bit of a pass because of the reputation of some of the people involved.

Rhivre
Caldari
TarNec
Posted - 2009.08.28 23:52:00 - [131]
 

Having considered the (lack of) evidence put forward by the plaintiff, I believe this case would not make it to a court anywhere in New Eden.

Firstly, because of the non existence of one of the defendents (CCP came back as not known on all recognised search systems)
Secondly, because the plaintiff has not provided any evidence of law-breaking on the part of any of the named parties.

Exhaustive search of documentation has not provided any evidence suggesting that any of the activities alleged to have occurred are in breach of any treaties, legislation, or otherwise recognised laws.

I therefore suggest that this potential suit is dropped before any further potential costs are incurred.

Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
Posted - 2009.08.29 00:13:00 - [132]
 

Originally by: Athre
Block please clarify your charges ... So I say again - Clarification please on EXACTLY what it is you are complaining about.



A full document with the prosecutor's case will be presented at a later time. At this time I'm gathering information from involved parties.


Originally by: Athre

While you are at it, Please explain to everyone why your stock can not be resold at face value...



If you have any questions regarding BSAC investments I suggest you asked them in the corresponding threads. Your question has been answered before.


Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
Posted - 2009.08.29 00:14:00 - [133]
 


Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2009.08.29 00:19:00 - [134]
 

Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 29/08/2009 00:19:31
What I see demanded in this thread about the directors:

Linkage



Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
Posted - 2009.08.29 00:20:00 - [135]
 

Originally by: Treelox
Hurray for me having resisted attempts to recruit me to EBANK's BoD for the last +2 years.


That said, lol at the OP's whole idea. Yeah lets criminally charge the guilty, dock their sec status....ohhh noes....now they will have to use alts to get ships to them from high sec.

Seriously Block, what a joke this thread is, what is even sadder is I suspect your deadly serious.



Why shouldn't we charge the guilty ones? I understand that enforcing any ruling might never happen and that there is no precedence for a trial. But, should involved parties act like nothing happened and simply walk away?

And yes, Iím deadly serious.

Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
Posted - 2009.08.29 00:24:00 - [136]
 

Originally by: Rhivre
Having considered the (lack of) evidence put forward by the plaintiff, I believe this case would not make it to a court anywhere in New Eden.


Firstly, because of the non existence of one of the defendents (CCP came back as not known on all recognised search systems)
Secondly, because the plaintiff has not provided any evidence of law-breaking on the part of any of the named parties.

Exhaustive search of documentation has not provided any evidence suggesting that any of the activities alleged to have occurred are in breach of any treaties, legislation, or otherwise recognised laws.

I therefore suggest that this potential suit is dropped before any further potential costs are incurred.


You are correct; I have not presented a full indictment. However, there is plenty of evidence in the forums of wrong doing. You and I disagree, and I believe thatís one reason we need to put forward a trial.


Athre
Minmatar
The Higher Standard
Posted - 2009.08.29 00:25:00 - [137]
 

As you fail to cough up the cash for your own shares I submit a counter suit that you too are a failure and should be brought up on charges of misrepresentation... yeah thats the ticket

Ray McCormack
Nordar Innovations.
Posted - 2009.08.29 00:30:00 - [138]
 

I also counter suit that you are in fact a ginger and misrepresent in your alleged portrait that you have no hair, when in fact the rug matches the d****s.

Ray McCormack
Nordar Innovations.
Posted - 2009.08.29 00:31:00 - [139]
 

I am also countering that your lack of a page six snipe is contrary to your ability to mow grass.

Ray McCormack
Nordar Innovations.
Posted - 2009.08.29 00:32:00 - [140]
 

Originally by: Ray McCormack
I am also countering that your lack of a page six snipe is contrary to your ability to mow grass.


Quoting epic failure.

Ray McCormack
Nordar Innovations.
Posted - 2009.08.29 00:32:00 - [141]
 

Clearly it's a long way off. I surrender.

Companion Qube
Minmatar
Electron Conservation Inc
SRS.
Posted - 2009.08.29 00:44:00 - [142]
 

Edited by: Companion Qube on 29/08/2009 00:44:03
hrm

e: f.

Vivinc Laloo
Posted - 2009.08.29 00:44:00 - [143]
 

ray, vista and co are making an heroic, tho kinda pathetic, but still heroic effort to stay smacky and funny and all.
But that doesn't change the cold hard fact they are resposible for making a lot of fine peeps lose isk. And what is worse, they are resposible for dropping believabality in player finacial schemes to zero.
This does kinda justify some reprecaution, no matter how nobel and sincere their initial motivations might have been.

Ji Sama
Caldari
Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
Posted - 2009.08.29 00:45:00 - [144]
 

first on page 6


also. im suing all of you for trolling my forums.

Ji Sama
Caldari
Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
Posted - 2009.08.29 00:47:00 - [145]
 

Originally by: Vivinc Laloo
ray, vista and co are making an heroic, tho kinda pathetic, but still heroic effort to stay smacky and funny and all.
But that doesn't change the cold hard fact they are resposible for making a lot of fine peeps lose isk. And what is worse, they are resposible for dropping believabality in player finacial schemes to zero.
This does kinda justify some reprecaution, no matter how nobel and sincere their initial motivations might have been.



i agree, its clear now that while they might be retaliating, they have lost it. they have gone completely and utterly mad with POWER... PROTON POWER!

HawkBlade
Posted - 2009.08.29 00:47:00 - [146]
 

Originally by: Block Ukx
Why shouldn't we charge the guilty one?
After some back checking I notice another failed defendant: Block Ukx

Care to explain about the isk you, yourself, stole from eBank?

Ray McCormack
Nordar Innovations.
Posted - 2009.08.29 00:52:00 - [147]
 

Originally by: Vivinc Laloo
ray, vista and co are making an heroic, tho kinda pathetic, but still heroic effort to stay smacky and funny and all.
But that doesn't change the cold hard fact they are resposible for making a lot of fine peeps lose isk. And what is worse, they are resposible for dropping believabality in player finacial schemes to zero.
This does kinda justify some reprecaution, no matter how nobel and sincere their initial motivations might have been.

I plead guilty already!




Page six?

Poison
Forge Laboratories
Posted - 2009.08.29 01:13:00 - [148]
 

Block told me when e-bank was early it was a possible scam. He asked many times for audits and other info as we where thinking of investing. He was shut down many times. He even pointed out a mistake made during early profit annoucements and again was shut down for asking questions. He told me of what he believed and the evidance he had a long time ago. So I didnt want anything to do with the bank. Well guess what billions and billions of isk missing.

Block is just seeing if there is any support for this happening. I know I would rather take a loss then to have my isk held for a year. I know I can get way better ROI then the bank possible could. I can see some people are tring to get this thread locked. Well they should be locked out of this thread to allow block to see if members of e-bank want a third part voice. I trust block a lot and know he does not do this for drama. We talked about it for a few days and he was not going to do anything.. But thats to much isk missing and people have a right to the isk they worked hard for.

If you dont support him fine but let the people that do support him.

Ji Sama
Caldari
Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
Posted - 2009.08.29 01:13:00 - [149]
 

Originally by: HawkBlade
Originally by: Block Ukx
Why shouldn't we charge the guilty one?
After some back checking I notice another failed defendant: Block Ukx

Care to explain about the isk you, yourself, stole from eBank?




ooh shar drama :) i love this :) first on page 7

Ji Sama
Caldari
Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
Posted - 2009.08.29 01:14:00 - [150]
 

Originally by: Poison
Block told me when e-bank was early it was a possible scam. He asked many times for audits and other info as we where thinking of investing. He was shut down many times. He even pointed out a mistake made during early profit annoucements and again was shut down for asking questions. He told me of what he believed and the evidance he had a long time ago. So I didnt want anything to do with the bank. Well guess what billions and billions of isk missing.

Block is just seeing if there is any support for this happening. I know I would rather take a loss then to have my isk held for a year. I know I can get way better ROI then the bank possible could. I can see some people are tring to get this thread locked. Well they should be locked out of this thread to allow block to see if members of e-bank want a third part voice. I trust block a lot and know he does not do this for drama. We talked about it for a few days and he was not going to do anything.. But thats to much isk missing and people have a right to the isk they worked hard for.

If you dont support him fine but let the people that do support him.




i agree very well written :) i commend you!


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