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Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
Posted - 2009.08.28 15:35:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Block Ukx on 28/08/2009 20:16:25
EBANK Criminal Charges


The Citizens of New Eden vs. EBANK and CCP

CHARGES

  • Embezzlement and Theft

  • Wire Fraud

  • Bank Fraud

  • Conspiracy to Defraud

  • Money Laundry



DEFENDENTS
CCP and
EBANK Employees

  • Ricdic

  • Hexxx

  • Athre

  • LaVista Vista

  • Mr. Horizontal

  • SencneS

  • Sentry Raven

  • Shar Tegral

  • Proton Power

  • Ray McCormack




Without a doubt, there is ample evidence to prosecute those responsible for the collapse of EBANK and subsequent lost of funds. Furthermore, CCP actions resulted in the loss of Billions to EBANK customers. As a whole, everyone involve and responsible should be liable and paid back the loss to EBANK customers.


FORFEITURE
9,963,023,961,104 ISK





The current plans to continue EBANKís operations and decision to keep customers ISK are nothing but a new tactic to prolong this fraud scheme.

Iím looking for peopleís support to prosecute those responsible for the lost of Trillions of ISK.

Affected parties should filled out the Class Action Form.


Any lawyer interested? Any thoughts?




EDIT: Please note that these are in-game criminal charges, not a real life prosecution.


Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
Posted - 2009.08.28 15:35:00 - [2]
 

Reserved

LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
Posted - 2009.08.28 15:40:00 - [3]
 

Is this a joke?

Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
Posted - 2009.08.28 15:42:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: LaVista Vista
Is this a joke?


No


Kateryne
Minmatar
Kat's Discount Weapon Emporium
NISYN Inc.
Posted - 2009.08.28 15:42:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: LaVista Vista
Is this a joke?

I second that...

Carine Parnasse
Posted - 2009.08.28 15:43:00 - [6]
 

Im sorry that you didnt pay attention in MD orientation, but rule 1 is:

Do NOT invest what you cannot afford to lose.

Also, you'd better be a troll, you cant go around doing things like that. CCP is in no way responsible for the conduct of players, and as long as the rules are followed they have no reason to interfere.
They didnt steal any money, you gave it to them under a nonbinding promise that they would return it + intrest.

Next time, just keep your own money safe. Or go back to WOW

LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
Posted - 2009.08.28 15:45:00 - [7]
 

Are you suggesting that people should support class action over something that belongs to CCP?

Please tell me that you are just trying to stir up drama. Otherwise, it's rather delusional. You are also suggesting that people who had nothing to do with the disappearence of the ISK should be charged.

LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
Posted - 2009.08.28 15:47:00 - [8]
 

Actually, on the other hand, a lawsuit about this would be EXTREMELY interesting in order to establish the actual enforcability of the EVE EULA.

I say do it.

Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
Perditus Peregrinus
Posted - 2009.08.28 15:47:00 - [9]
 

Wait, what?

Gentileman
Posted - 2009.08.28 15:48:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Block Ukx
null
EBANK Criminal Charges

The Citizens of New Eden vs. EBANK and CCP

CHARGES

  • Embezzlement and Theft

  • Wire Fraud

  • Bank Fraud

  • Conspiracy to Defraud

  • Money Laundry



DEFENDENTS
CCP and
EBANK Employees

  • Ricdic

  • Hexxx

  • Athre

  • LaVista Vista

  • Mr. Horizontal

  • SencneS

  • Sentry Raven

  • Shar Tegral

  • Proton Power

  • Ray McCormack




Without a doubt, there is ample evidence to prosecute those responsible for the collapse of EBANK and subsequent lost of funds. Furthermore, CCP actions resulted in the loss of Billions to EBANK customers. As a whole, everyone involve and responsible should be liable and paid back the loss to EBANK customers.


FORFEITURE
9,963,023,961,104 ISK





The current plans to continue EBANKís operations and decision to keep customers ISK are nothing but a new tactic to prolong this fraud scheme.

Iím looking for peopleís support to prosecute those responsible for the lost of Trillions of ISK.

Affected parties should filled out the Class Action Form.


Any lawyer interested? Any thoughts?





YOU MAD!

Son... I am disappoint. This is just going to end up with you looking like an impotent sad little man - EBANK might have knocked you for six by frittering away (not scamming, thsi is pure incompetence, like most 'scams') but you;re just going to make yourself look like a fool.

Get over it bro - Just cause you;re only rich in a game doesn't mean you have to act like it.

Kyra Neve
Caldari
Robert Robertson and Associates
Posted - 2009.08.28 15:48:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Kyra Neve on 28/08/2009 15:48:48
Originally by: Carine Parnasse
Im sorry that you didnt pay attention in MD orientation, but rule 1 is:

Do NOT invest what you cannot afford to lose.

Also, you'd better be a troll, you cant go around doing things like that. CCP is in no way responsible for the conduct of players, and as long as the rules are followed they have no reason to interfere.
They didnt steal any money, you gave it to them under a nonbinding promise that they would return it + intrest.

Next time, just keep your own money safe. Or go back to WOW
Having a bank account isn't a real investment. And after all the ebank was just big fat ass scam like many have predicted in the past, ebank related ppl have zero respect left.

Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
Posted - 2009.08.28 15:49:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: LaVista Vista
Are you suggesting that people should support class action over something that belongs to CCP?


Criminal in-game charges. I'm not talking about an outside lawsuit, but rather a law suit by the people of New Eden.

Originally by: LaVista Vista

You are also suggesting that people who had nothing to do with the disappearence of the ISK should be charged.


Only parties that in some form or manner participated or facilitated the Fraud are being charged.



Ji Sama
Caldari
Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
Posted - 2009.08.28 15:49:00 - [13]
 

I as judge og these procedings, rule ebank and all employees NOT GUILTY..

now move along kids

iP0D
Posted - 2009.08.28 15:49:00 - [14]
 

This is probably a roleplaying thread of some sort. Can we sign up for the holy trinity of judge, jury & executioner somewhere?

Also, aside of the spelling error, I am really curious about the "money laundering" bit, do tell more.

Ray McCormack
Nordar Innovations.
Posted - 2009.08.28 15:51:00 - [15]
 

I plead guilty and would like to plea bargain by turning state witness against Omber Zombie.

Rhivre
Caldari
TarNec
Posted - 2009.08.28 15:51:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Block Ukx


Only parties that in some form or manner participated or facilitated the Fraud are being charged.




Looks mostly like a list of ex directors / well known associates of E-bank to me, less of a "we know you facilitated the fraud"

LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
Posted - 2009.08.28 15:52:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: LaVista Vista on 28/08/2009 15:52:38
Originally by: Block Ukx


Criminal in-game charges. I'm not talking about an outside lawsuit, but rather a law suit by the people of New Eden.


Why are you even mentioning CCP? You know that's not going to get you anywhere, as they will just give you their middlefinger.


Originally by: Block Ukx

Only parties that in some form or manner participated or facilitated the Fraud are being charged.




I suggest that you also involve people who defaulted on their loans then.

EDIT: I filled out the form. I want my 95k back :(

Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
Posted - 2009.08.28 15:53:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Gentileman
...(not scamming, thsi is pure incompetence, like most 'scams')...


That would be for a Jury to decided. I have no doubt that a New Eden Grand Jury will find probable cause that a crime was committed.


Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
Posted - 2009.08.28 15:54:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Ray McCormack
I plead guilty and would like to plea bargain by turning state witness against Omber Zombie.



Quoted for future evidence.

Exhibit #1



Ji Sama
Caldari
Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
Posted - 2009.08.28 15:56:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Block Ukx
Originally by: Ray McCormack
I plead guilty and would like to plea bargain by turning state witness against Omber Zombie.



Quoted for future evidence.

Exhibit #1






To late these procedings are over.
You are welcome to plea this verdict.

Carine Parnasse
Posted - 2009.08.28 15:57:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Carine Parnasse on 28/08/2009 15:58:34
Quote:
Criminal in-game charges. I'm not talking about an outside lawsuit, but rather a law suit by the people of New Eden.


In what court? The only law is concord, and they dont care what you do with your money.


Quote:
"Money laundering is the practice of disguising illegally obtained funds so that they seem legal. It is a crime in many jurisdictions with varying definitions. It is a key operation of the underground economy."


The funds were legally obtained and havent been laundered in the slightest, nor is there need in eve since the definition of your money is the money in your wallet, regardless of where it came from.

Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
Posted - 2009.08.28 15:57:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: iP0D
Also, aside of the spelling error, I am really curious about the "money laundering" bit, do tell more.



"Money laundering is the practice of disguising illegally obtained funds so that they seem legal. It is a crime in many jurisdictions with varying definitions. It is a key operation of the underground economy."


Quoted from here.


Rage Trade
Posted - 2009.08.28 15:59:00 - [23]
 

MD is by far the most entretaining part of the eveonline forums atm.

Keep up the good work.

Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
Posted - 2009.08.28 15:59:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: LaVista Vista
Why are you even mentioning CCP? You know that's not going to get you anywhere, as they will just give you their middlefinger.



Their action resulted in the loss of customer's ISK. (Theft)


Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
Posted - 2009.08.28 16:02:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Carine Parnasse
The funds were legally obtained and havent been laundered in the slightest, nor is there need in eve since the definition of your money is the money in your wallet, regardless of where it came from.


I would argue that the funds were obtained as part of the conspiracy to defraud scheme, then use in withdraws and "ventures" to further the scheme.


Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
Posted - 2009.08.28 16:05:00 - [26]
 

Exhibit #2

Originally by: Ji Sama
I as judge og these procedings, rule ebank and all employees NOT GUILTY..



I beleive you are biased and should be removed from any future proceedings.



Rhivre
Caldari
TarNec
Posted - 2009.08.28 16:07:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Block Ukx
Originally by: iP0D
Also, aside of the spelling error, I am really curious about the "money laundering" bit, do tell more.



"Money laundering is the practice of disguising illegally obtained funds so that they seem legal. It is a crime in many jurisdictions with varying definitions. It is a key operation of the underground economy."


Quoted from here.




However, is it a crime in the jurisdiction of concord?

Ray McCormack
Nordar Innovations.
Posted - 2009.08.28 16:08:00 - [28]
 

How do you establish the nearly 10 trillion ISK forfeiture?

Roguehalo
Caldari
Roguehalo Ship Brokers
Posted - 2009.08.28 16:09:00 - [29]
 

Can I volunteer for jury service please?

iP0D
Posted - 2009.08.28 16:10:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Block Ukx
Originally by: iP0D
Also, aside of the spelling error, I am really curious about the "money laundering" bit, do tell more.



"Money laundering is the practice of disguising illegally obtained funds so that they seem legal. It is a crime in many jurisdictions with varying definitions. It is a key operation of the underground economy."


Quoted from here.




Ok, taking a bite.

The only sources of illegally acquired isk are those original sources present within the bank and/or acquired sources over time.

You're not suggesting gold sellers or macro idiots have been using ebank with the knowledge of ebank staff, right? Or ISK obtained in historical scams leaked to the general public routed through ebank to end up from one identity to the next?

First case I'm sure CCP keep track. Unholy Rage. Second case, welcome to EVE.



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