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Joseph Foster
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.08.29 02:41:00 - [31]
 

If it's natural selection you're going for, there are other ways to go about it.

Abolish welfare.
No free medical care.
Enforce the death penalty more vigorously.

Or, keep it simple. Free methamphetamine with every handgun purchase. Twisted Evil Sit back and watch the fun ensue.Shocked

Jonny 101
Posted - 2009.08.29 02:46:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Joseph Foster
If it's natural selection you're going for, there are other ways to go about it.

Abolish welfare.
No free medical care.
Enforce the death penalty more vigorously.

Or, keep it simple. Free methamphetamine with every handgun purchase. Twisted Evil Sit back and watch the fun ensue.Shocked


Yeah I bet you'll just love having your family brutally ****d, murdered, robbed and abused in any way possible in the years leading up to the violent revolt that would be bound to come after your brilliant social changes <3

Joseph Foster
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.08.29 03:00:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Jonny 101

Yeah I bet you'll just love having your family brutally ****d, murdered, robbed and abused in any way possible in the years leading up to the violent revolt that would be bound to come after your brilliant social changes <3


Thankfully, we live too far out in the middle of nowhere. Our closest neighbor is a little under a mile down the road, and that's in both directions.

Jonny 101
Posted - 2009.08.29 03:07:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: Jonny 101 on 29/08/2009 03:07:23
Originally by: Joseph Foster
Originally by: Jonny 101

Yeah I bet you'll just love having your family brutally ****d, murdered, robbed and abused in any way possible in the years leading up to the violent revolt that would be bound to come after your brilliant social changes <3


Thankfully, we live too far out in the middle of nowhere. Our closest neighbor is a little under a mile down the road, and that's in both directions.


Oh yeah, who'd want to rob **** and loot out where nobody can see the crime, and society going belly up around you wouldn't be much of a bother or anything :D

1789, France, thats what you get if you create a large lower class and ignore it.

Thankfully the western world is FAAR away from that, and we're moving yet furhter away from it.

A lot of my friends were the children of abusive deadbeat parents, alcoholics, a ***** mother and no clue who daddy is, and without the goverment backing them up (because god knows their parents didn't), they'd have endt up as yet another generation of doped up deadbeats.

Instead the government paid for an education and a lot of them now have productive tax paying jobs.

Human evolution is changing, in a few years we'll probably take control of it with new technology and shape our own destiny, but let's not make society into a smoking ruin before we get there, eh, life isn't fair and that works both ways of the social ladder, we rich may have monetary power but the poor have their fists, and getting a weapon isn't that hard, and thats another form of real and "legitimate" power in terms of evolution.

That said, banning weed is stupid considering all the horribly dangerous drugs you can get over the counter today and it's just red tape and prejudice keeping it that way.
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****** on the other hand...see China vs Great Britain 1839.

H e r o i n jees, we know what it is, i'm not trying to sell it or anything CCP.

Frank Corncob
Posted - 2009.08.29 03:10:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Jonny 101
Originally by: Joseph Foster
If it's natural selection you're going for, there are other ways to go about it.

Abolish welfare.
No free medical care.
Enforce the death penalty more vigorously.

Or, keep it simple. Free methamphetamine with every handgun purchase. Twisted Evil Sit back and watch the fun ensue.Shocked


Yeah I bet you'll just love having your family brutally ****d, murdered, robbed and abused in any way possible in the years leading up to the violent revolt that would be bound to come after your brilliant social changes <3


He didn't propose anarchy. What are you smoking?

Jonny 101
Posted - 2009.08.29 03:36:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Frank Corncob
Originally by: Jonny 101
Originally by: Joseph Foster
If it's natural selection you're going for, there are other ways to go about it.

Abolish welfare.
No free medical care.
Enforce the death penalty more vigorously.

Or, keep it simple. Free methamphetamine with every handgun purchase. Twisted Evil Sit back and watch the fun ensue.Shocked


Yeah I bet you'll just love having your family brutally ****d, murdered, robbed and abused in any way possible in the years leading up to the violent revolt that would be bound to come after your brilliant social changes <3


He didn't propose anarchy. What are you smoking?


Anarchy tends to have a cause, the most common of which is poverty.

Joseph Foster
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.08.29 05:54:00 - [37]
 

Edited by: Joseph Foster on 29/08/2009 05:57:10
Originally by: Jonny 101

Oh yeah, who'd want to rob **** and loot out where nobody can see the crime, and society going belly up around you wouldn't be much of a bother or anything :D

1789, France, thats what you get if you create a large lower class and ignore it.

Thankfully the western world is FAAR away from that, and we're moving yet furhter away from it.

A lot of my friends were the children of abusive deadbeat parents, alcoholics, a ***** mother and no clue who daddy is, and without the goverment backing them up (because god knows their parents didn't), they'd have endt up as yet another generation of doped up deadbeats.

Instead the government paid for an education and a lot of them now have productive tax paying jobs.

Human evolution is changing, in a few years we'll probably take control of it with new technology and shape our own destiny, but let's not make society into a smoking ruin before we get there, eh, life isn't fair and that works both ways of the social ladder, we rich may have monetary power but the poor have their fists, and getting a weapon isn't that hard, and thats another form of real and "legitimate" power in terms of evolution.

That said, banning weed is stupid considering all the horribly dangerous drugs you can get over the counter today and it's just red tape and prejudice keeping it that way.
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****** on the other hand...see China vs Great Britain 1839.

H e r o i n jees, we know what it is, i'm not trying to sell it or anything CCP.


I'm not saying your argument is invalid. In fact, I wholeheartedly agree with it. However, the topic was natural selection, and I foresee this as one possibility, albeit far-fetched and never going to happen.

The weak die off to make room for the strong, even if the strong are a bunch of brainless half-wits.Laughing


Edited for my p*ss-poor spelling...

Jonny 101
Posted - 2009.08.29 06:06:00 - [38]
 

In our current world the weak aren't culled and with the new breakthroughs in genetics we will soon decide the course of human evolution and be able to "custom design" ourselves.

In short: Human evolution by means of natural selection does no longer occur (barring some third world nations, though in a new shape due to widespread war and new ilnesses).

It has been replaced with: Human Evolution by means of random selection (everyone lives, even the weak barring a few who die of ilnesses in childhood we have yet to cure...for now however we still evolve, but now its no longer the strongest genes who are carried on, all genes are now carried on because even if you do die of cancer, you'll have had time to have 2-3 kids BEFORE this happens).

In its place you'll soon have designer babies, and why people think thats a bad thing is beyond me, we're not talking about aborting jewish babies here, we're talking about removing weaknesses to certain ilnesses, breeding babies with stronger organs, better eyesight, more effective brains etc etc etc.

Aaah the future, definately worth the risk of zombie-cyborg invasion.

Joseph Foster
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.08.29 06:15:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Jonny 101
In our current world the weak aren't culled and with the new breakthroughs in genetics we will soon decide the course of human evolution and be able to "custom design" ourselves.

In short: Human evolution by means of natural selection does no longer occur (barring some third world nations, though in a new shape due to widespread war and new ilnesses).

It has been replaced with: Human Evolution by means of random selection (everyone lives, even the weak barring a few who die of ilnesses in childhood we have yet to cure...for now however we still evolve, but now its no longer the strongest genes who are carried on, all genes are now carried on because even if you do die of cancer, you'll have had time to have 2-3 kids BEFORE this happens).

In its place you'll soon have designer babies, and why people think thats a bad thing is beyond me, we're not talking about aborting jewish babies here, we're talking about removing weaknesses to certain ilnesses, breeding babies with stronger organs, better eyesight, more effective brains etc etc etc.

Aaah the future, definately worth the risk of zombie-cyborg invasion.


Soo, what you're saying is...

TL;DR -- The human race is quickly going the way of the Jovians? Shocked

Calvin Firenze
Minmatar
Caeli Veredictum
Posted - 2009.08.29 07:51:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Petsey Petrilinquo
but what you've forgotten is the magical drug called cannabis, which if everyone smokes, will make the world a wonderful place where everyone will live in harmony Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


This.

Feilamya
Pain Elemental
Posted - 2009.08.29 17:10:00 - [41]
 

lol @ genetic evolution?
welcome to 1 Million years ago ...

Azasello
Posted - 2009.08.29 17:17:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: K1K1R1K1
Edited by: K1K1R1K1 on 27/08/2009 15:57:59
(TL;DR: let the weak kill themselves with the chemicals they think they need)

The plan you propose is already being carried out for years by the pharma industry.

The fact that you do not realize this, and think your idea is new, only shows how brilliant their plan and its execution is (and on which end of the food chain you are).

Schalac
Caldari
Apocalypse Reign
Posted - 2009.08.29 18:58:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: rValdez5987


Anything that is deemed unhealthy should be disallowed.

It isn't your body when you are part of programs OTHER PEOPLE PAY FOR. Because my tax money supports your addictions, your weakness, your weak wants, I am a part owner of your body.

So yes, if I'm helping to pay for your benefits I expect that you will be forced if necessary to live properly and healthy.

Don't like it? Help me move us to a libertarian society without entitlement, with low corruption, a society where work means something, people earn their rights, and everyone contributes.

Most people want to legalize drugs out of selfishness not because they are actually looking at the issue itself with why we shouldn't.
So are you for or against national health care? This is what was always great about the USA. It is not supposed to run programs like healthcare, welfare, medicare, cash for clunkers, cap and trade, social security... At the same time though it is supposed to run programs that protect the American workers interest with tariffs and trade restrictions. If they would of concentrated on supporting our own industries over directly supporting the people put out of work by not doing that, none of this would be a problem now. The US government has been running backwards ever since the depression and we are likely to continue digressing unless we do an overhaul of washington politics.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2009.08.29 19:00:00 - [44]
 

Look at all these idiots yammering desperately to be dominated by their fascist overlords.

Happy ending: they will get their wish.

Schalac
Caldari
Apocalypse Reign
Posted - 2009.08.29 19:05:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Joseph Foster
Originally by: Jonny 101
In our current world the weak aren't culled and with the new breakthroughs in genetics we will soon decide the course of human evolution and be able to "custom design" ourselves.

In short: Human evolution by means of natural selection does no longer occur (barring some third world nations, though in a new shape due to widespread war and new ilnesses).

It has been replaced with: Human Evolution by means of random selection (everyone lives, even the weak barring a few who die of ilnesses in childhood we have yet to cure...for now however we still evolve, but now its no longer the strongest genes who are carried on, all genes are now carried on because even if you do die of cancer, you'll have had time to have 2-3 kids BEFORE this happens).

In its place you'll soon have designer babies, and why people think thats a bad thing is beyond me, we're not talking about aborting jewish babies here, we're talking about removing weaknesses to certain ilnesses, breeding babies with stronger organs, better eyesight, more effective brains etc etc etc.

Aaah the future, definately worth the risk of zombie-cyborg invasion.


Soo, what you're saying is...

TL;DR -- The human race is quickly going the way of the Jovians? Shocked
Or the way of Gattaca where we can discriminate against the natural born.

TimMc
Brutal Deliverance
Gypsy Band
Posted - 2009.08.29 19:33:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Azirapheal
i saw tax money dragged into the conversation somewhere up there and was reminded of a conversation i had with an anti smoking nazzi

88 - you realise how much your smoking costs the state each year?
me - hit me *inhales*
88 - you cost the nhs 500 million pounds a year (omgrofllolololol)
me - ok... *breathes out* you know we pay 2.5bn a year in taxes for this right?
88 - but its bad for you
me - as will this conversation be for your health if you dont get the fk back inside the pub before i finish this pint and try to glass you.

legalise it, tax it, funds itself.


This is pretty much my thought aswell. Legalise almost everything, but tax it enough to pay off the damage it causes. Cars, ***s, drugs, fastfood, gambling, etc.

Or just drop all the socialist programs and let people run their lives and die by them.

Irulan S'Dijana
Amarr
Drexler Burnum Inc.
Rising Phoenix Alliance
Posted - 2009.08.30 04:12:00 - [47]
 

...or we could bump up funding for genetic engineering as the new form of natural selection. Very Happy

Oh wait...morality Rolling Eyes

Ganthrithor
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.08.30 04:42:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: rValdez5987
I believe in making the penalties much harsher instead, and using prisoners as cheap labor in the place of Chinese and Indian workers. Instead of exporting jobs, some jobs would be sent to prison labor camps.

Some say my ideas are inhumane.... Anyone not following the rule of law deserves no rights. They forfeited them when they broke the law. The exception of course being those not at the age of majority. They would be rehabilitated, and the parents would be punished for negligence depending on circumstances as I realize parents can't control their kids 100%

Also parents would be given back the right to spank their children with no fear of abuse accusation. lol.


Arbeit macht frei.

Bismaru's Ambition
Amarr
Trigrams Edge
Posted - 2009.08.30 13:41:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Petsey Petrilinquo
but what you've forgotten is the magical drug called cannabis, which if everyone smokes, will make the world a wonderful place where everyone will live in harmony Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


Works for me,.. and Jesus

Cardiana
Posted - 2009.08.30 14:20:00 - [50]
 

Edited by: Cardiana on 30/08/2009 20:10:10
legalising the maria would be a smart step for the goverment but prolly then the poor sobs with their artifical fabric production lines gonna start bit*hing: we dont want this sh.


in the end how all this will turn out will show how mature our society is and how open minded it is with the fact that this plant is just an awesome plant designed by nature which can do so much in so many departments. medical for instance which is well dosed. never to much of one single thing.
all well in balance right.



anyway about moral here. hm. the only law is love your neighbour as yourself.
do what you want. surrender to that.


for example: galaxy whirl -> snail house.



now who owns the intelligence that goes through it all?


no one in particular right.
thats who you ultimately are inside.

this awesome full potencial.
right here right now.




try to own which you already are in essence and there will be stagnation quite naturally.





so to come back to this beautifull plant:

as with so many things it just seems to be again a dogma created by an industry hindering true progress
of humanity like with the oil industry, which tesla a 100years back predicted
and already said it is barbaric.

truly who needs oil and all that around? it is completly out of balance.


if you are into science atleast read tesla and einsteins bio. it is unfortunate almost no one knows em
as human beings. especially tesla who so to say laid the very foudnation of what we all have here in electronics.

wihtout tesla we would be literally still living with steam engines around us
and both these giants and other highly realized ppl said fact is
nature has provided us already with enough as is.

waay enough (look at nightsky? how many stars? epicluulz) and perfectly so (phi).
respect it love one another. thats enough.


now how our society would look following that principles in totality?
what is this human life possibly for?



would we need genetical engineering at all or this dirty oil industry in order to function?

maybe we should stop waste that totality. hm. could be good idea.



TimMc
Brutal Deliverance
Gypsy Band
Posted - 2009.08.30 16:00:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Irulan S'Dijana
...or we could bump up funding for genetic engineering as the new form of natural selection. Very Happy

Oh wait...morality Rolling Eyes


I'm all for genetic engineering that doesn't involve destroying embryos.

That said its not my choice, its someone elses. They can face the consequences after they die, if there are any.

Glarion Garnier
Thermal reaction
Posted - 2009.08.30 17:23:00 - [52]
 

The problem OP .. is this. none of us in legal terms owns our body. Why do you think they can take a baby away from you unless they have ownership over that. ... at least this is how some ppl at Canada think it is. Confused

Cardiana
Posted - 2009.08.30 17:57:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: Cardiana on 30/08/2009 18:27:38
nothing here as always. Wink


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