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jadegogetter
Posted - 2004.10.12 09:31:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: jadegogetter on 12/10/2004 09:43:40

hey i got a question bugging me right, according to terms of service quote

"You may not market, sell, advertise, promote, solicit or otherwise arrange for the exchange or transfer of items in the game or other game services unless it is for in-game sales of in-game services or items."

than u have companies selling and buying itmes online ?

buying and selling eve items wats up??? i dont get it if its against TOS and theres a company doing this?

im curious to know how come this kind of thigns r tolerated? thnx

Avon
Caldari
Versatech Co.
Raiden.
Posted - 2004.10.12 09:37:00 - [2]
 

And you thought you'd advertise this?

Jeez Rolling Eyes

Dave Tehsulei
NibbleTek
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2004.10.12 09:40:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Dave Tehsulei on 12/10/2004 09:43:53
this website is only around because people playing eve are willing to pay real money for in game items. If you want to do your part and help stop this dont use such websites...

as for ccp doing something about it, well i think they could take legal action, but do you want ccp to invest time and lots of money into fighting places like this, or use the same time and money to improve the game.

i know which i would choose, i say let them be and may all the players that use such places rot in u-q Twisted Evil

Alerce
Posted - 2004.10.12 10:57:00 - [4]
 

There is a lot more to this thing. Basically they can have eula's, but large parts of eula's are not valid in a lot of countries. So, its difficult to say its illegal.
They can ban accounts, but EVE needs to make money as well. So, they are not that free to just ban everyone, who does it, that will cost money and can bring the game in danger, if subscriptions get too low. Dont forget strict rules, scare away customers too.
Its still a huge debate, whether a game company can claim, that a player cant ask a donation for his time, if he gives away something to another. Problem is, if game items will get property status, that means we have to pay rl tax over it.

Second, its often not even RL money, people use. The new thing that happens nowadays is:
A player plays another online game for some years, he get tired and get rid of game items there for paypal cash. He starts new game and uses this paypal cash, he got by getting rid of items in game A, to have a faster start in game B.

Lot of people claim its only a game, sure it is, but some people work that much in a week, they dont have unlimited play time. So sometimes if they really enjoy a game, they spent some extra cash to open up more options.

Personally i still dont know what to think exactly about it. Somehow i dont feel the game companies own all rights anymore, but i dont want to pay tax either :P

Zopyros
Gallente
Posted - 2004.10.12 14:38:00 - [5]
 

Well, considering the fact that CCP promotes these sites (just check some of the fansites from the main page) I don't think CCP is giving this too much though.


Fester Addams
Minmatar
Posted - 2004.10.12 19:44:00 - [6]
 

Basicly what the EULA states is that if you break it CCP reserves the right to cancel your account and blacklist you.

Thus if you dont want to risk that then dont break the EULA.

Joshua Calvert
Caldari
Rule One
Posted - 2004.10.12 19:51:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Alerce
There is a lot more to this thing. Basically they can have eula's, but large parts of eula's are not valid in a lot of countries. So, its difficult to say its illegal.
They can ban accounts, but EVE needs to make money as well. So, they are not that free to just ban everyone, who does it, that will cost money and can bring the game in danger, if subscriptions get too low. Dont forget strict rules, scare away customers too.
Its still a huge debate, whether a game company can claim, that a player cant ask a donation for his time, if he gives away something to another. Problem is, if game items will get property status, that means we have to pay rl tax over it.

Second, its often not even RL money, people use. The new thing that happens nowadays is:
A player plays another online game for some years, he get tired and get rid of game items there for paypal cash. He starts new game and uses this paypal cash, he got by getting rid of items in game A, to have a faster start in game B.

Lot of people claim its only a game, sure it is, but some people work that much in a week, they dont have unlimited play time. So sometimes if they really enjoy a game, they spent some extra cash to open up more options.

Personally i still dont know what to think exactly about it. Somehow i dont feel the game companies own all rights anymore, but i dont want to pay tax either :P



I think you'd find Eve would gain subscribers if everyone knew they took a strong and firm line on selling items in this way.

Nobody likes those farmers.


 

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