open All Channels
seplocked EVE General Discussion
blankseplocked Hilmar Veigar Pétursson's (CCP CEO) Greed.
 
This thread is older than 90 days and has been locked due to inactivity.


 
Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 5 6 7

Author Topic

Shardrael
Caldari
The Fimbriani
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2009.08.19 02:58:00 - [31]
 

a company wants to make more money news shocker!!!!

more at 11

AngelOfSparta
Madhatters Inc.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2009.08.19 03:01:00 - [32]
 

No, one thing I do see that will happen due to a console game... is the maturity level of eve will decrease. One thing I have noticed, is that parent's are willing to fork out cash for a new Nintendo Wii, PS3, XBOX 360 for their 10 year old kid... while being more reluctant to hand over money for a computer, in general at least...

This being said... a console game will bring in a bunch of kids... sure, some of them might be good FPS players... but if they are directly feeding into OUR universe, do you really want your sov space being dictated by the annoying 10 year old from across the street that nags at your dog, ****ing it off and making it bark for eternity??

I just always preferred Eve over other games (such as WoW) due to it's maturity level. And, in my view, that is now being compromised.

-Angel

marxist revolutionary
Posted - 2009.08.19 03:07:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: AngelOfSparta
No, one thing I do see that will happen due to a console game... is the maturity level of eve will decrease. One thing I have noticed, is that parent's are willing to fork out cash for a new Nintendo Wii, PS3, XBOX 360 for their 10 year old kid... while being more reluctant to hand over money for a computer, in general at least...

This being said... a console game will bring in a bunch of kids... sure, some of them might be good FPS players... but if they are directly feeding into OUR universe, do you really want your sov space being dictated by the annoying 10 year old from across the street that nags at your dog, ****ing it off and making it bark for eternity??

I just always preferred Eve over other games (such as WoW) due to it's maturity level. And, in my view, that is now being compromised.

-Angel


there's no higher maturity level in eve it's full of idiots who're slightly wordier, console players aren't better or worse

the problem is people on another platform affecting the game and having to buy an xbox or whatever to fight them which is gay as ****. if this was released as a PC expansion to eve i'd have no trouble with it

Veldya
Guristari Freedom Fighters
Posted - 2009.08.19 03:37:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: Veldya on 19/08/2009 03:42:04
It will come down to how big a role the Dust mites play in the new Sov mechanics. I've always been in favour of sov mechanics which make it harder to control huge quantities of space through the use of occupation as more of a sov element than passing fleets through systems.

At present only a small fraction of the playerbase live outside of Empire, it is difficult for new corps and alliances to grow and expand into 0.0, it overcrowds npc space while you can jump through 20 systems and not run into anyone in conquerable space.

From what I have seen, there will be a big dependency on these "mercs" and that will force some kind of relationship between the MMO entities and the Console entities and I think that will be a negative as the average age of a consoler is significantly lower than the average age of a PC Gamer, and EVE probably has the most mature level of PC Gamer given the learning cliff.

I think some alliances will struggle to relate well with the "Boom! Headshot!" crew. There would be more synergy if EVE was more like Jumpgate Evolution and a FPS in space kind of game. You would then attract both the flight sim FPS fans and the gun based FPS people. EVE attracts two vastly different types of gamers and you are forcing these two groups to form relationships, which might annoy some who don't want to be utterly dependent on third parties and out-of-game elements influencing their game.

Graalum
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.08.19 03:51:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Capot
MATT DAMON


stop using RK memes

SquadBroken
Helljumpers
Posted - 2009.08.19 04:25:00 - [36]
 

Edited by: SquadBroken on 19/08/2009 04:25:47
Originally by: Minigin
people need to grow up...


Coming from a man with lime green font. Laughing You are just too much.

Proxay
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2009.08.19 04:57:00 - [37]
 

Well this kinda forces me to buy the TV+PS3 I was thinking about ;x

I MUST WIN ON ALL BATTLEFIELDS.

Vxrasa
Caldari
Creative Cookie Procuring
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2009.08.19 05:01:00 - [38]
 

see you on teh battlefieldYARRRR!!YARRRR!!YARRRR!!Twisted EvilYARRRR!!YARRRR!!YARRRR!!

Machine Delta
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.08.19 05:46:00 - [39]
 

I don't know why someone from Tri is complaining about this new game which might be their only chance to actually accomplish something in the EVE universe.

Horatio Nately
Caldari
808 Enterprises
Posted - 2009.08.19 06:29:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Dingding Wang
For a second there I thought I'd wandered onto Games Workshop's boards by mistake


this.

i lol'd

CCP WeatherMan

Posted - 2009.08.19 06:44:00 - [41]
 

Moved to GD.

Mitch Taylor
Dark-Rising
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2009.08.19 06:46:00 - [42]
 

the op reaches new levels of infancy.

Officer Spawn
Posted - 2009.08.19 07:04:00 - [43]
 

Imagine all the players with less then 40m SP being able to influence the game. It's just not natural.

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2009.08.19 07:11:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: Adunh Slavy on 19/08/2009 07:13:11

Originally by: Aalana

There you have it. Plain and simple. CCP wants to expand it's player base, again, and make more $$$$.



CCP is a business, plain and simple. Of course it wants to make more money. But don't forget, CCP has also recently banned 6200 paying accounts for having been involved in the RMT markets. That's a million dollars revenue for the year CCP got rid of ... for you and the integrity of their game.

Originally by: Aalana

In response a 0.0 EVE player can choose:
1. be armtwisted into either buying ANOTHER CCP game to have a direct say in 0.0 sov,
2. dump a ton of isk into NOT PLAYING EVE i.e. Pay mercs
3. letting go of your 0.0 space or plans to conquer it.



These are the things we don't know yet, CCP will need to be careful how they balance this. Big or strong alliances will be fine I suspect. The little guys will be hurt the most.

Spurty
Caldari
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp
Posted - 2009.08.19 07:18:00 - [45]
 

Lot of speculation going on with this topic which is to be expected as CCP has given out wishy-washy info about how it all works.

They need to get the following squared away about DUST 514:

- Do DUST players join corps or are they 'Mercenaries'?
- Do Missions play like stories or more just like maps of Call of Duty or BF2 or even TF2?
- What is preventing the 'Munckin' factor creeping in where you end up on a team that doesn't want to succeed and 'throws' the game so their 'friends' benefit?

Some of the above will be far too much effort for the console crowd that just want to pick up a new game to play Friday for the weekend and never return to.

CCP knows this, its their business to know this.

I for one will pick it up to have a play. Consoles only hold my attention for an hour most though. Last thing I want to have to do is worry about 'Who' I am playing for. Just want 'Red Team vs Blue Team' please!

temponita
Posted - 2009.08.19 07:20:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Aalana
Waaaaaaa waaaa waaa

What are you on anyways?
Where did CCP ever sign to serve you're ideals?
Eve Online has obviously provided you with entertainment at a fair price, otherwise you wouldn't be here whining about it.

Now the time has come for Eve to grow in other directions.
And for you to stop whining like a baby about it!

Meiyang Lee
Gallente
Azteca Transportation Unlimited
Gunboat Diplomacy
Posted - 2009.08.19 07:26:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Spurty
Lot of speculation going on with this topic which is to be expected as CCP has given out wishy-washy info about how it all works.

They need to get the following squared away about DUST 514:

- Do DUST players join corps or are they 'Mercenaries'?
- Do Missions play like stories or more just like maps of Call of Duty or BF2 or even TF2?
- What is preventing the 'Munckin' factor creeping in where you end up on a team that doesn't want to succeed and 'throws' the game so their 'friends' benefit?

Some of the above will be far too much effort for the console crowd that just want to pick up a new game to play Friday for the weekend and never return to.

CCP knows this, its their business to know this.

I for one will pick it up to have a play. Consoles only hold my attention for an hour most though. Last thing I want to have to do is worry about 'Who' I am playing for. Just want 'Red Team vs Blue Team' please!



Judging from the snippet of Keynote after the trailer on Golem.de DUST players can form their own corps, but the plan is that those corps can become part of EVE alliances (If I interpreted Hilmar's slide correctly). They want the 2 player communities to merge at some point in the future.


Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Clinical Experiment
Posted - 2009.08.19 07:41:00 - [48]
 

First i'm going to say something;

Shocker! CCP tries to make money!

It's a company, that's what companies do. You'd do the same if you could.

Second i'm going to say this;

All money Dust makes, will enrich EVE as it feeds directly to the EVE support budget, production(such as upgrading and releasing WiS resources to work on EVE) and last but not least, the lastivity of EVE itself.

Third i'm going to perhaps point out the mnost important fact;

Originally by: Aalana
We wanted to do something completly different. We wanted a whole new group of players encounter the world of Eve and enrich it. This way we can let player that aren't interested in PC games take part in Eve Online.


See if you can spot it Wink

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2009.08.19 07:44:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Originally by: Aalana
We wanted to do something completly different. We wanted a whole new group of players encounter the world of Eve and enrich it. This way we can let player that aren't interested in PC games take part in Eve Online.


See if you can spot it Wink
And all the pre-butthurt alliance players cried we we we all the way home? Razz

But yeah ccp is doing this for themselves and not us. Though we do get the benefits of thier epic drive to be the best too.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2009.08.19 08:13:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Aalana
There you have it. Plain and simple. CCP wants to expand it's player base, again, and make more $$$$.
No **** Sherlock. They've only been saying the same thing since, oh, roughly forever. They're also a business, so saying anything else would mean EVE shut down tomorrow.
Quote:
In response a 0.0 EVE player can choose:
1. be armtwisted into either buying ANOTHER CCP game to have a direct say in 0.0 sov,
2. dump a ton of isk into NOT PLAYING EVE i.e. Pay mercs
3. letting go of your 0.0 space or plans to conquer it.
4. Actually take the game to a new level and employ strategy. Throwing ISK at the problem is how Sov is handled already — Dust will make zero difference in that regard.

Dust is about as horrid an addition to 0.0 sov warfare as the HIC.

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2009.08.19 08:20:00 - [51]
 

in all honesty, considering that the trailer was in Intaki V (wich is like, not 0.0), couldn't this mean that it will be released first for FW?


just askin'.

Nito Musashi
Posted - 2009.08.19 08:24:00 - [52]
 

just saying that claiming adding the console crowd to eve is going to lower the maturity level of eve, about made me spit out my can't sleep anyway skrew it cappuccino, the level of crybaby temper tantrums that have flooded the forums with the announcment of dust, is not better or no worse than the xbots on ps3 boards making up arguments and options as fact to trash another system or game.

we do not know how this stuff is all going to mesh together, we do not know exactly how much this is going to play in the grand scheme of sov broken as it is, we do not if the game will be any good, if people will actually play it, how we in eve o impact the battles on the ground if at all, if we need to hold the skies above to actually land dust troops, if it will eventually come to pc or eve o in some form.

we know a few basics there is a fps called dust that is for xbox and ps3, that eve o players will hire mercs to fight on planets, and it will have a effect on sov to a certain degree.

anything beyond those basics is all whole heap of assumptions, and we can discuss what happens when we all assume things, break it down yourselves.

and to flame ccp for wanting to make money, or gasp expand it's player base, let me grab a chair and sit down this is truly shocking news on par with the collapse of the soviet union.

Typhado3
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.08.19 08:25:00 - [53]
 

Eve player community (CCP nerd zombie) stupid.


you'll get a better reply when you make a more informed post

Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2009.08.19 08:36:00 - [54]
 

I'm still waiting for the day Goons start playing Dust 514 and make videos on how they can grief the hell out of it.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2009.08.19 08:44:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Nito Musashi
just saying that claiming adding the console crowd to eve
…and that's not even what they're doing, so it's a moot point anyway. Neutral

Franco Caruso
Posted - 2009.08.19 08:45:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Aalana
There you have it. Plain and simple. CCP wants to expand it's player base, again, and make more $$$$.



Unless I am wrong ... that is the goal of ANY company. More customers, more money. He's not greedy, he's a good CEO.

Originally by: Aalana
If you want to have a direct say in the proposed sov changes this will effect every single 0.0 alliance player to the tune of $14ish/month for a DUST MMO subscription to a ******ng CONSOLE game.


Nope. If you want to have a direct say you spend ISK on grunts that gain and establish planetary sovreignty that allows you to gain solarsystem sov. You spend ISK and supply weaponry, vehicles, assets.

Hiring mercs to take down some POS is the same. Just that you do not have control over it anymore so much because you cannot use your alt's money making merc corp anymore but have to use and trust unknown players in a console game to do the dirty work for you.

FC

Morphisat
Hidden Agenda
Deep Space Engineering
Posted - 2009.08.19 08:47:00 - [57]
 

If you play the announcement backwards you can clearly hear Jonn Smedley wisper NGE NGE Shocked.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2009.08.19 08:50:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Morphisat
If you play the announcement backwards you can clearly hear Jonn Smedley wisper NGE NGE Shocked.

That makes sense. Play it backwards and it will be a mirror-image, so this is obviously an anti-NGE. Wink

Proxay
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2009.08.19 08:55:00 - [59]
 

Also honest opinion:

This is a great step for eve, it adds another layer of depth, and also another option on how we play this alredy complex and very open game.

If you get bored of shooting things with your spaceship, or hauling your wares all over the universe, you can turn off your computer, turn on your PS3/Xbox360 and log in to a Killzone/Resistance/Halo style shooter, with some pre-existing friends from eve, and take over a planet.

This has to be the first of its kind, and it's a welcome addition in my eyes. I think this will play an important part in the future...upon initial release it may be somewhat limited, while the developers get a feel for how the game will pan out, and affect EVE-O's universe. But eventually, it'll be a key element to taking/controlling/holding space, and will be fun too!

The one thing I'm hoping for, is that corporations on this game can't exceed a certain size, as much as I'd love to imagine that it's to be as open as possible, lets pretend 1/5th of Goonswarm play...you've got a 1000 man team, against your...what...200? You'd have to be damn good, and this isn't counter-strike either, consoles are pretty horrible for FPS's and twitch reactions. So you'd be outblobbed totally. I think a 50-200 man limit on corps would be awesome.

Crewman Jenkins
Caldari
Malicious Demi-Lancers
Posted - 2009.08.19 09:00:00 - [60]
 

but I dont have a console :(


Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 5 6 7

This thread is older than 90 days and has been locked due to inactivity.


 


The new forums are live

Please adjust your bookmarks to https://forums.eveonline.com

These forums are archived and read-only