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HongHi Choi
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2009.08.18 21:23:00 - [181]

Thumbs up! Great work guys.

Kerfira Corp
Posted - 2009.08.18 21:29:00 - [182]

Edited by: Kerfira on 18/08/2009 21:29:58
Originally by: Kassimila
I'm not talking about lowering the ISK cost of a plex card. I'm talking about lowering the real money cost of purchasing them. They currently cost more than a standard subscription.

You're wrong..... Unless you live in the US where CCP has decided that the people there (who pay less taxes and VAT than the people in Europe) should get their subscriptions cheaper.

We of.c. then bought GTC's in the US, which made CCP raise the price of those, but they still let the US subscribers off cheap while continuing to charge Europeans more, so essentially we partially pay for the US subscribers.

Some of us are still pretty annoyed over that.... but CCP are by far not the only ones ripping us off....

Posted - 2009.08.18 21:29:00 - [183]

I will tell you what RAGE is.
Rage is what i feel everytime i see someone buying dozens of time cards, to sell for instant isk, and characters.

Any and all purchasing of in game assets with outside money flaws the gameplay. Drives unfairness, and degrades the overall experience in eve.

But go ahead, be proud you banned a small group of people, while still making a fortune off of ingame isk sells.


Joe Everyguy
Posted - 2009.08.18 21:39:00 - [184]

Originally by: Gunsnroses
I will tell you what RAGE is.

Right now for me, its the macro***s in Javr, and the fact that the PLEX is unattainable for the casual player. Sad

Obo Oddy
Posted - 2009.08.18 21:47:00 - [185]


Misty Mountains
Posted - 2009.08.18 21:58:00 - [186]

Huzzah !
Huzzah !
Huzzah !
The Ents (CCP) have awakened, and found that they are strong!

Jin Tall
Posted - 2009.08.18 22:03:00 - [187]

Very well done. Keep up the good work.

Ghost Data
Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr
Posted - 2009.08.18 22:08:00 - [188]

Finally something has been done about those weirdos....


Bird Free
Posted - 2009.08.18 22:31:00 - [189]

Originally by: Plague Black
CCP you are dinosaurs. You can fight it all you want but it will be like trying to prevent a tsunami bursting trough sand dam by using 3 children spatulas and 145gr of cotton.

You can freely allow real cash economy in EVE as having tons of isk means absolutely nothing if you don't have the skills to back it up. And if you have the skills then you don't need to buy isk as you will be making it with ease ingame.

I want rich people to come into my space in their t3 ships, fresh out of ebay, so I kill them using T1 cruisers. And I don't mind macro farmers feeding their kids by selling isk in some backwater country, it's 100x better then pickpocketing or knifing rich tourists.

"Unholy rage" is just another codename for "We have no clue about the future". People will keep putting "illegal" isk in this game regardless of how much of your nerd rage is invested into banning them. You should focus on making EVE a better game instead. But then again you can't help it as you don't know better, I guess you will just have to learn the hard way.

I'm also not surprised that you have so much nerd support in this thread, as if brown-nosing CCP ever did something good for anyone in this game. All people cheering your efforts to band some macro losers are as clueless as you are.

Sometimes I wonder how you made this beautiful game, you keep displaying basic business incompetence ever since EVE went live. I guess the beast was set free and lives despite your "efforts" to kill it because so many of us just love living in EVE universe. But I'm warning you, nothing lasts forever, you will have to face your ****ty moves sooner or later.

So, since you are so smart why don't you tell CCP what to do? You must have it all figured out. I'm sure you can hint at what the future should be like and CCP might pay in cash...

Chantilly Layce
Proper Villains
Posted - 2009.08.18 22:41:00 - [190]

UNHOLY RAGE is righteous rage.

Interesting tho to see how the player economy has adjusted. Sure, the roids are bigger where no roid was bigger than a marshmallow most days prior to "rage".

Quite a few traders are feeling the pinch, too, what with the twice-daily dumping of mission farmer loot no longer filling their orders like clock-work.

And there are more mission ninjas than before...and I are one.

I'm sure there are other similar "butterfly effects" in progress...some even affecting the "industy" of alliances that can't replace lost ships fast enough...must be tough since all those illicit reactors got nuked.


Harriet Jones
Posted - 2009.08.18 22:58:00 - [191]

Great info.

Now add a report isk seller option besides the block function and we can all report them quick and easy without game interruption.

Posted - 2009.08.18 23:11:00 - [192]

Unholy Rage is all well and plex cards now :) The only ting is I want to put a point on an omission/lie on the part of CCP. The reason the roids are bigger is more do to the change CCP has done to the respawn rate of belts .7 sec and lower then the absense of macro miniers. This in turn has created a huge influx of many minierals and mining has for the most part has hit a big down turn for high sec miners. CCP please return the spawn rates back to normal you are hurting a major form of income for players and most specifically new players. Ban cheats but don't artifically distroy the market.Crying or Very sadCrying or Very sad

Posted - 2009.08.18 23:26:00 - [193]

woohooo CCP

I was always concerned that CCP was not interested in doing anything about this because they make so much money from the accounts but good on ya CCP, doing some simple maths looks like this has cost ya 100,000 USD a month in accounts subscriptions.

Bit of a hit but not when you do these figures :)

310,000 active paying accounts if the 2% ban was equal to 6200 accounts

310,000 x $14.99 a month = 4.6 mill USD a month woohooo go CCP

Obviously a big percentage of sales will be done with plex or game time cards which will be resold at a reseller price so not perfectly accurate figures but still alot of dosh, CCP wanna sub me $14.99 for next months subscription lol

Anyway moral of my investigation into money is to see that CCP have lost a chunk of money by doing this for its true members who are here to have fun. Good on ya CCP :)

Posted - 2009.08.18 23:57:00 - [194]

I just thought you made the belts bigger; now there is something to mine

Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2009.08.19 00:07:00 - [195]

I wondered what happened to ingunn Laughing

Vher Vixxen
Megaton m3 Heavy Industries
Posted - 2009.08.19 01:05:00 - [196]

I truly hope you find a way to eliminate most RMT and macro miners. There is little sense to play a game where cheating prevails.

The Collective
White Noise.
Posted - 2009.08.19 01:10:00 - [197]

can we PLEASE find out how many hulks / cnrs etc went with the ban? and the amount of isk this effectively removed? I'd love to know!

and on thread, RMT is very bad and agree 100% on the macro use in general im honestly on the fence about it, dont really care either way .

Der Valkirie
Posted - 2009.08.19 01:40:00 - [198]

Edited by: Der Valkirie on 19/08/2009 01:58:13
Edited by: Der Valkirie on 19/08/2009 01:41:34
I have to ask the question - who's fault is this. I know I will take a lot of flak over this but I broke the rules myself and was correctly punished by having the ISK's taken away - however I do think that EVE does not publish the rules in the right place.
Please do not tell me you read EVERY EULA for EVERY piece of software you install because after 15+ years as a computer professional I can assure you I would more believe that the world is flat or that ET is sitting on your lap.
EULA's almost always refer to copying, altering or otherwise compromising the publishers software rights.
Gameplay rules should be specified in another DEDICATED document. I did not consider buying ISK's "cheating" since joining certain corporations can get you these same ISK's.

Othmar Herrmann
Posted - 2009.08.19 01:51:00 - [199]

Can't thank you guys enough for this! As an honest miner and builder, this is fantastic. I've been wondering why some of my favorite systems have not been mined out like they usually are. Keep it up!!!

misss sellsalot
Posted - 2009.08.19 01:55:00 - [200]

Best blog topic EVER!RazzRazzRazz

Lone Star Exploration
Lone Star Partners
Posted - 2009.08.19 03:47:00 - [201]

Great Job!

I peronsally buy tones of Time Codes to keep playing.. As I don't have the time to Grind for is as my Job is 60 hours per week plus...not by choice.
So this allows me to hop in a ship and get podded, while others who have the free time but not the $$ can play as well

I do have to admitt I am a carebear at heart and should be earning lots of Isk, but I suck at it. I join in minning ops to socialize and to play the role of the hen... dodging those Pirate Foxes while hoping I will run near a Friendly Hound on the way..... Sadly it is othen a Hungry hound I run into.

I think this will lower the cost of Plexes as the supply of isk will be only way to get isk with-out grinding for it which should make players who pay isk to play happier with lower price.(Demands drop as the isk sellers are no longer buying Plexs to keep making isk)

If there were no plexs in the came I would have quit Eve along time ago. As I would have the skills for flying a carrier but have No time for Grinding the isk for it.... In a way the Plex allows the Full time gammers who have a crappy job support those casual gamers with no free time.

Keep up the good work CCP

Rihiko Ozawa
Posted - 2009.08.19 04:05:00 - [202]

YAYZORZ!!! Finally, some indication that you guys are doing something about these cumstains. I was beginning to tire of the form replies from the GMs whenever I reported an ISK spammer. Next step: find them IRL and torture them to within an inch of their lives.

Posted - 2009.08.19 04:59:00 - [203]

It was really quite amazing to see the dramatic effect on the CPU usage. Well done CCP. Some MMO companies are afraid to do what is necessary. Not you. Cheers!

Loyal Servant
The Knights Templar
Strategic Operations Brigade
Posted - 2009.08.19 05:22:00 - [204]

Originally by: Rylert
It was really quite amazing to see the dramatic effect on the CPU usage. Well done CCP. Some MMO companies are afraid to do what is necessary. Not you. Cheers!

Not going to respond to everyone but your on the bottom so you get it Very Happy
I would not say that CCP is willing to 'do what is necessary' - they had to at some point.
Myself, and others have been telling them for -YEARS- that this is what was going on, and even went to great lengths to tell them how just to be ignored, or told we were wrong, and the typical 'Baghdad Bob' response - 'there are no isk farmers in eve' and having CCP lie in one thread about a year and a half ago when someone posted the first damning evidence where they responded that they had banned the accounts outlined on these very forums, just so we see them log in the next day! Shocked

Now, CCP will only earn brownie points from us in the anti-isk farmer community if they KEEP IT UP
Only then will I say, good job.
I am happy they have finally done something, don't get me wrong.
I am skeptical due to the length of time (over 3 years) that it's taken them to do something about the problem.

Ancy Denaries
Posted - 2009.08.19 05:26:00 - [205]

Originally by: Plague Black
I have no alts, I have b4llz to post as well as shoot with my main unlike 99% of EVE population or yourself.

What makes me sad panda is that some of our enemies ran out outside fundings so we are lacking targets. I miss killing ebay dreads or ships bought with isk generated by selling stuff made using bpos that developers awarded to themselves. Twisted Evil

Dude...why do you play this game? You apparently hate both it and the developers....some people.

"Oh, I art better than thou! Oh, and I also know everything about everything that happens, which automatically make my opinion right. I even know better than CCP that sits on all the info. Dear gods, I'm awesome."

Get over yourself.

Posted - 2009.08.19 05:53:00 - [206]

Great Job!

As a trader/miner, I saw the effects of this action first hand, and i might add i was happy when i saw those asteroids. And there is less price competition on the market now as well. Furthermore, with PLEX becoming only quick isk injection method, its isk value will drop over time which means cheaper game time.

Clown Punchers.
Clown Punchers Syndicate
Posted - 2009.08.19 06:07:00 - [207]

Outstanding Job CCP!

Very impressive work collecting that information and then acting on it.

HUN Corp.
HUN Reloaded
Posted - 2009.08.19 06:25:00 - [208]

Haha, is it just me or this sounds like the great "Rust Storm", if anyone remembers that ;)

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2009.08.19 07:31:00 - [209]

Thank you, CCP.

Louis deGuerre
Posted - 2009.08.19 08:09:00 - [210]

Awesome work and awesome blog CCP ! Twisted Evil

"Supporting our RMT-fighting troops YARRRR!!"

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