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Bonny Lee
Caldari
Starkstrom
Initiative Mercenaries
Posted - 2009.08.18 11:45:00 - [151]
 


Tamahra
Gallente
Apina.
United Pod Service
Posted - 2009.08.18 11:46:00 - [152]
 

thx, trailer added

Darion Amador
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2009.08.18 11:48:00 - [153]
 

BATMANSEX!

I just came. Buckets!

JitaBum
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2009.08.18 11:49:00 - [154]
 

Originally by: Denuo Secus
Edited by: Denuo Secus on 18/08/2009 11:44:33
Trailer: http://www.golem.de/0908/69136.html

Edit: first :P

Yikes

Karanth
Gallente
RONA Corporation
RONA Directorate
Posted - 2009.08.18 11:50:00 - [155]
 

needs moar devblogs


Maria Kalista
Amarr
Knights of Kador
Posted - 2009.08.18 11:50:00 - [156]
 

Shocked Nice trailer! Razz

Ivanna Nuke
Gallente
Holders Of The Cowbell
Posted - 2009.08.18 11:51:00 - [157]
 

Shocked

**** me ..

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2009.08.18 11:51:00 - [158]
 

Originally by: Bonny Lee
Dont know if this was posted but this is a trailer it seems
http://video.golem.de/games/2283/dust-514-ego-shooter-im-universum-von-eve-online-gamescom-2009.html
Holeeeee.. Surprised This has to get a pc port or I and all my alts will quit eve. seriously......

Morphisat
Hidden Agenda
Deep Space Engineering
Posted - 2009.08.18 11:51:00 - [159]
 

Originally by: Denuo Secus
Edited by: Denuo Secus on 18/08/2009 11:44:33
Trailer: http://www.golem.de/0908/69136.html
Edit: first :P


Well what i see on that site isn't very hopeful.

Quote:

Die Kämpfe, die auf den Planeten stattfinden werden, sollen direkte Auswirkungen auf die politische Lage von Eve Online haben.
...
Dabei geht es vor allem um die sogenannte Sovereignity, also die Hoheitsrechte der Allianzen über Sternensysteme und -konstellationen.



Dust 514 will have affect on sovereignity if I read this correctly.

Davina Braben
Posted - 2009.08.18 11:52:00 - [160]
 

Edited by: Davina Braben on 18/08/2009 12:09:03
CONSOLES ONLY? MadMadMadMadMadMad

Come on CCP, the PC is crying out for a MMOFPS Razz

The only people developing one at the moment are SOE and you know what they're like.

They are bad if you don't know what they're like.

Bring this to PC and you'll effectively have a relatively untapped market all to yourselves.

Oh sure you're probably looking at PS and WW2OL going "I dunno. Those games didn't do so good."

Well, WW2OL is a niche sim product.

Planetside was mismanaged horribly by SOE. They've consistently just not developed it and when they have they have made very poor decisions (I could write you pages and pages on this topic but it all started going wrong with their first expansion). CCP would have done so much better with it because of your greater commitment to your products and smarter approach to the MMO market it's not even funny.

So yeah. Don't let that put you off and don't let SOE have the only PC MMOFPS.

Mashie Saldana
Minmatar
Veto Corp
Posted - 2009.08.18 11:53:00 - [161]
 

I like that trailer, very nice weapon effects.

Guy Fitzgerald
Posted - 2009.08.18 11:54:00 - [162]
 

Originally by: Morphisat
Originally by: Denuo Secus
Edited by: Denuo Secus on 18/08/2009 11:44:33
Trailer: http://www.golem.de/0908/69136.html
Edit: first :P


Well what i see on that site isn't very hopeful.

Quote:

Die Kämpfe, die auf den Planeten stattfinden werden, sollen direkte Auswirkungen auf die politische Lage von Eve Online haben.
...
Dabei geht es vor allem um die sogenannte Sovereignity, also die Hoheitsrechte der Allianzen über Sternensysteme und -konstellationen.



Dust 514 will have affect on sovereignity if I read this correctly.



You read it correctly, but that means not much, as it may be just a messed up translation.

I dont think that Sov will be tied to Planet combat, would make no sense, as mentioned before in this Thread, what do we care for Planets? Especially the empty rocks found in 0.0?
Maybe it will add posibilities to send mercs into outposts/Poses to take them over?
But i dont think Planets will affect sov at all

Bonny Lee
Caldari
Starkstrom
Initiative Mercenaries
Posted - 2009.08.18 11:56:00 - [163]
 

If Hilmar isnt lying in that trailer it will have impact.

Cornaris
Posted - 2009.08.18 11:56:00 - [164]
 

Originally by: Darion Amador
BATMANSEX!

I just came. Buckets!


I also need to find a shop vac.

Biggi Raeubertochter
Minmatar
Apina.
United Pod Service
Posted - 2009.08.18 11:56:00 - [165]
 

Originally by: Davina Braben
CONSOLES ONLY? MadMadMadMadMadMad

Come on CCP, the PC is crying out for a MMOFPS Razz

The only people developing one at the moment are SOE and you know what they're like.


not necessarily.

4players.de has talked to Petursson after the show, asking why there will be no PC-Version. Petursson smiled and stated, that he cannot comment on it right now. The only thing he can say at the moment is that there will be ca console version.

Mara Rinn
Posted - 2009.08.18 11:56:00 - [166]
 

Who's flying the Pelican at the beginning of that video? Another Dust player or an EVE player?

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2009.08.18 11:58:00 - [167]
 

Originally by: Bonny Lee
If Hilmar isnt lying in that trailer it will have impact.
Indeed, skip to 3:10 and listen and he clearly states that the console players will directly effect 0.0 sov and the only way to get it in your favor is to pay console players to fight for you. Oh dear...

Ivanna Nuke
Gallente
Holders Of The Cowbell
Posted - 2009.08.18 11:58:00 - [168]
 

Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Bonny Lee
If Hilmar isnt lying in that trailer it will have impact.
Indeed, skip to 3:10 and listen and he clearly states that the console players will directly effect 0.0 sov and the only way to get it in your favor is to pay console players to fight for you. Oh dear...


Endgame.

Biggi Raeubertochter
Minmatar
Apina.
United Pod Service
Posted - 2009.08.18 11:58:00 - [169]
 

Originally by: Mara Rinn
Who's flying the Pelican at the beginning of that video? Another Dust player or an EVE player?



clearly a dust player...... with the eve client its highly doubtful that you can land on these planets...

Nito Musashi
Posted - 2009.08.18 12:00:00 - [170]
 

its not a bad concept, the lore of eve pod pilots are demi gods, that their clones do work outside the pods on their ships, therefore making us podders pick up guns and star running around shooting people in the face was always problematic, and hence no fighting on stations.

while we always assumed this would be part on the same game, lest these games are linked by us demi gods giving orders to the dust crews to take or defend a planet, while we supposedly support them from the atmospheres of said worlds. me wonders how far along this atmospheric stuff is along, one would assume if this is indeed the way it works and with consoles having a finite life span and console users have the attention span of of about an 8 hour fps clone of halo or something it would be fairly far along in development.

i think hoping that xbox 360 or ps3 will be around say in 2 to 3 years and people still waiting for said game in ccps normal turn around time, these features are probably pretty solid and ready to be deployed in say a year at most.

maybe dust is why ambulation has been so slow to see the light of day, maybe the war rooms in ambulation will incorporate dust, imagine being able to view a whole sector of territory in the war room and assign missions to dust players on the console realm to bolster power and whatnot.

and how about this, maybe there will be a pc side for the dust expansion if they gave pod pilots mechs to use on planetary battles, it is conceivable that you could use a pod, have an escape or remote piloting ability, special drop ships could deliver the mechs to the hot spots to support the dust tactics, bit far fetched, but maybe the twinkle in the eye nudge nudge wink wink stuff is them keeping something along those lines under the hat til they can tease it and take 3 years more to incorporate it dust rising eve online expansion soon TM.

either way i hard see how this is all gloom or utter fail or ruining your eve online, hows come anything that does not directly involve blobling, start to ruin your eve onine? its just another layer of complexity to the game, that makes some good sense in the long run, assuming console players buy the game subscribe the game and it is worth playing and exciting.

course i worry how long console players would stick with it, how many of them would be willing to pay for a mmo subscription, mmos have struggled mightly on consoles generally speaking, and most never see the light of day due to that fact. and if you people will actually use it since you seem to have so much scorn for it.

Guy Fitzgerald
Posted - 2009.08.18 12:02:00 - [171]
 

Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Bonny Lee
If Hilmar isnt lying in that trailer it will have impact.
Indeed, skip to 3:10 and listen and he clearly states that the console players will directly effect 0.0 sov and the only way to get it in your favor is to pay console players to fight for you. Oh dear...


Right you are, my bad then.

Hmm sounds not necessary like a perfect idea....

but well i guess we have to wait for the winter expansion, and see hwo sov will be reworked after all, maybe the whole Dust idea makes it really nice

Bonny Lee
Caldari
Starkstrom
Initiative Mercenaries
Posted - 2009.08.18 12:02:00 - [172]
 

Edited by: Bonny Lee on 18/08/2009 12:03:05
I would love to be able to fly to a planet and join a battle with my battleship.
First fly to the battle "dock" on the planet. Change the game step in the docked
Battleship and kaaabaawuuum!

If my the dusty-consoleros kill my bs it will be gone in both games.

Mara Rinn
Posted - 2009.08.18 12:04:00 - [173]
 

Originally by: Biggi Raeubertochter
clearly a dust player...... with the eve client its highly doubtful that you can land on these planets...


What about the strategic cruiser firing missiles in the sky above the stairs - you see it at about 0:25 and again at 1:00. I haven't seen enough strategic cruisers obviously, but I'm wishing it could be a caldari T3 configured for planetary fire support...

Jowen Datloran
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2009.08.18 12:04:00 - [174]
 

Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Bonny Lee
If Hilmar isnt lying in that trailer it will have impact.
Indeed, skip to 3:10 and listen and he clearly states that the console players will directly effect 0.0 sov and the only way to get it in your favor is to pay console players to fight for you. Oh dear...


Ha ha, superb.

I knew any sovereignty changes would make the 0.0 crowd whine, but this will provide a great deal more than expected.

Btw. I think it is going to be awesome, and Hilmar also notes that fleet battles, POS and whatever else is also going to have an effect on sovereignty.

Biggi Raeubertochter
Minmatar
Apina.
United Pod Service
Posted - 2009.08.18 12:04:00 - [175]
 

Originally by: Nito Musashi

maybe dust is why ambulation has been so slow to see the light of day, maybe the war rooms in ambulation will incorporate dust, imagine being able to view a whole sector of territory in the war room and assign missions to dust players on the console realm to bolster power and whatnot.



the video would indicate that this will in fact be the case.

LOL nice, this would really revolutzionize the whole mmo genre to never seen before levels

Biggi Raeubertochter
Minmatar
Apina.
United Pod Service
Posted - 2009.08.18 12:05:00 - [176]
 

Originally by: Jowen Datloran
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Bonny Lee
If Hilmar isnt lying in that trailer it will have impact.
Indeed, skip to 3:10 and listen and he clearly states that the console players will directly effect 0.0 sov and the only way to get it in your favor is to pay console players to fight for you. Oh dear...


Ha ha, superb.

I knew any sovereignty changes would make the 0.0 crowd whine, but this will provide a great deal more than expected.

Btw. I think it is going to be awesome, and Hilmar also notes that fleet battles, POS and whatever else is also going to have an effect on sovereignty.


what they said is that the ground combats will ALSO have an effect on 0.0 souvereignity. to which degree it will affect 0.0 souvereignity is not yet known i would say....

LordSwift
Caldari
The Riot Act
Sacra Cupola
Posted - 2009.08.18 12:06:00 - [177]
 

My draw just dropped watching that trailer. Shocked I want now. No idea how that works on console to pc. But hell if ccp can do it. it will be a HUGE gaming first.
But i need to clone myself man. how can i play eve online and Dust at the same time. Looks gorgeous

Aero089
Exiled.
The Kadeshi
Posted - 2009.08.18 12:06:00 - [178]
 

So now we have fleet AND ground control coördination...

It's just a matter of time before CCP starts handing out wages to those coördinating inter-allaince operations in order to keep the game interesting (and letting alliance leaders keep their house and kids).

Amerilia
Posted - 2009.08.18 12:07:00 - [179]
 

mh they battle on Intaki V, gallente sov 0.1 sec system...

Mara Rinn
Posted - 2009.08.18 12:07:00 - [180]
 

Originally by: LordSwift
But i need to clone myself man. how can i play eve online and Dust at the same time. Looks gorgeous


You're coming at it from the wrong direction. Dust 514 is what miners will be playing on the console while waiting for the strip miners to cycle.


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