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Ritter Roland
Amarr
Hedion University
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:14:00 - [61]
 

Originally by: Elextra
100mil to person who finds trailer before public release...


*searches the interwebz*

Elextra
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:16:00 - [62]
 

Originally by: Ritter Roland
Originally by: Elextra
100mil to person who finds trailer before public release...


*searches the interwebz*


bear in mind I'm at work without Eve access, payment will be after 7pm GMT if anyone does find it

Ivanna Nuke
Gallente
Holders Of The Cowbell
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:18:00 - [63]
 

I ponder how this will alter the entire way alliances protect their territory?

Also I am curious how it will affect the balance of EVE, no offense to console gamers here but in my experience console gamers are not quite as intelligent as PC gamers... putting the two together in one universe, even if it's separated by the "atmosphere" could be explosive.


Elextra
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:20:00 - [64]
 

Originally by: Ivanna Nuke
I ponder how this will alter the entire way alliances protect their territory?

Also I am curious how it will affect the balance of EVE, no offense to console gamers here but in my experience console gamers are not quite as intelligent as PC gamers... putting the two together in one universe, even if it's separated by the "atmosphere" could be explosive.




I imagine that's not quite how they envision this working - they can't force alliances to buy the console game to secure their space. More likely this adds in to FW - the FW systems will now be influenced by planet control as well as the traditional Eve mechanic (or whatever they change it to to accommodate dust)

CyberGh0st
Minmatar
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:21:00 - [65]
 

Edited by: CyberGh0st on 18/08/2009 10:20:52
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=24886

hmm, not sure if I am happy with this ...

Lagn Gita
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:23:00 - [66]
 

Originally by: CyberGh0st
Edited by: CyberGh0st on 18/08/2009 10:20:52
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=24886

hmm, not sure if I am happy with this ...



Quote:
The announcement, with the trailer tagline of "one universe, one war"


one universe, one war, 2 subscription fees, 2 gaming systems.

Jowen Datloran
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:23:00 - [67]
 

I was expecting something like this. This is the kind of innovative thought that I dearly miss from Blizzard.

Of course the ground game should be completely separated from the spaceship game. Obviously spaceship captains do NOT run around in the mud shooting at each other, especially not pod pilots. But through the awesomeness that is the EVE market system the two game worlds can connect. People on the ground might need resources that people in the sky have to ship to them and the other way around too. And there are lots of other possible interconnections too.

This is just another brilliant example of how the world of EVE drips of creative potential and it is a pleasure to see that CCP (unlike some of its smaller minded playerbase) understands to take advantage of is.

CyberGh0st
Minmatar
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:24:00 - [68]
 

Originally by: Lagn Gita
Originally by: CyberGh0st
Edited by: CyberGh0st on 18/08/2009 10:20:52
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=24886

hmm, not sure if I am happy with this ...



Quote:
The announcement, with the trailer tagline of "one universe, one war"


one universe, one war, 2 subscription fees, 2 gaming systems.


Yep, not liking this at all :(

Andrea Erlang
Caldari
The Severed Hand Asylum
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:25:00 - [69]
 

as long as they don't f**k up the canon, I'm not complaining. Obviously capsuleers are still the elite. Otherwise we seriously need a ship that can blow up planets... or just let people doomsday planets.

Morphisat
Hidden Agenda
Deep Space Engineering
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:29:00 - [70]
 

Quote:

CCP's Petursson hope that "these communities will meld over time", expecting specific Dust 514 corporations to start with, but eventually social structures that bridge across the two. He quipped of the new game and the relationship between the two titles: "While the fleet does the flying, the industry does the dying."



I don't see this happening at all. The console gamecrowd is very different from the current Eve ppl. I don't mind them doing another game, but don't connect it to our universe...

Nepech Al'akir
Amarr
Resonance.
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:29:00 - [71]
 

EVE is great cause its a sandbox and we can do whatever we like, but if an FPS on another gaming platform is intergrated, we can't control 50% of the game anymore...

Ak'athra J'ador
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:30:00 - [72]
 

wait, they can come up with a FPS but they cant make Ambulation!?!?!

CyberGh0st
Minmatar
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:31:00 - [73]
 

Edited by: CyberGh0st on 18/08/2009 10:34:54
Originally by: Morphisat
Quote:

CCP's Petursson hope that "these communities will meld over time", expecting specific Dust 514 corporations to start with, but eventually social structures that bridge across the two. He quipped of the new game and the relationship between the two titles: "While the fleet does the flying, the industry does the dying."



I don't see this happening at all. The console gamecrowd is very different from the current Eve ppl. I don't mind them doing another game, but don't connect it to our universe...



This!

Imho, I think this is the 1st time CCP made a major mistake in their design vision for EVE Online.

I hoped that eventually we, the EVE Online players, would be able to do something on the planets, now this priviledge is going to consoles?

When other mmo's made their mistake, it was the beginning of the end. ( DAoC ToA, SWG CU-NGE, ... )

Ivanna Nuke
Gallente
Holders Of The Cowbell
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:31:00 - [74]
 

Originally by: Nepech Al'akir
EVE is great cause its a sandbox and we can do whatever we like, but if an FPS on another gaming platform is intergrated, we can't control 50% of the game anymore...


100% agree, it's *******s to those who cannot afford a Xbox 360, live subcription AND a sub to this game while also paying their EVE accounts.

Rolling Eyes

Sandbox? someone just stole half the sand if you ask me.

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:32:00 - [75]
 

I want to be able to help my console characters ground war by using my eve characters apocs to do orbital strikes. Twisted Evil

Evander Staker
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:32:00 - [76]
 

If done correctly this could be great, obviously the fleets and armies are normally separate but in contact. Id rather full integration rather than a lack luster attempt to keep them from affecting each other.

Jowen Datloran
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:34:00 - [77]
 

Originally by: Nepech Al'akir
EVE is great cause its a sandbox and we can do whatever we like, but if an FPS on another gaming platform is intergrated, we can't control 50% of the game anymore...


When have you ever been able to control the planets in EVE? Right now they are mostly eye candy waiting for a proper purpose.


Cornaris
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:34:00 - [78]
 

"players in the PC MMO can "fund mercenaries and give them goals" in the console title."

I for one welcome our new console isk sinks.

Tamahra
Gallente
Apina.
United Pod Service
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:35:00 - [79]
 

Originally by: CyberGh0st
Edited by: CyberGh0st on 18/08/2009 10:20:52
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=24886

hmm, not sure if I am happy with this ...



interesting twist of events. thx for the link anyways

Morphisat
Hidden Agenda
Deep Space Engineering
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:35:00 - [80]
 

Originally by: Nepech Al'akir
EVE is great cause its a sandbox and we can do whatever we like, but if an FPS on another gaming platform is intergrated, we can't control 50% of the game anymore...


Very well put. I don't care for consoles, nor for FPS games anymore. It's a shame if our gameplay would be affected in any way by people on a console game Evil or Very Mad.

Elextra
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:37:00 - [81]
 

when they give me the ability to sit in a high level orbit and reign fire from heaven on the console crowd I'll be 100% behind this... fleet opps to defend ground troops and blockade planets etc. would add value to the game and give us back some sand.

Assume console players wouldn't approve of random death strikes from orbit or having to make friends with eve alliances to get their planet blockaded...

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:37:00 - [82]
 

Originally by: Ivanna Nuke
Originally by: Nepech Al'akir
EVE is great cause its a sandbox and we can do whatever we like, but if an FPS on another gaming platform is intergrated, we can't control 50% of the game anymore...


100% agree, it's *******s to those who cannot afford a Xbox 360, live subcription AND a sub to this game while also paying their EVE accounts.

Rolling Eyes

Sandbox? someone just stole half the sand if you ask me.


Depends on the details doesn't it. We can't do **** with planets now, so we aren't exactly losing anything. If 0.0 sovereignty is tied to what happens in another game, this is so fail I don't have words for it. My guess is, that they combat for the control of empire planets and systems. The standards no death penalty MMO, where combat happens on battlegrounds. But we shall have to wait and see.

Doomed Predator
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:37:00 - [83]
 

They better make it for the PC also and free for EVE subscribers(you have youe EVE username or PW or get a new one specificaly for dust). I'll be damned if we lose control of a planet cause of some ******ed console gamers.

CyberGh0st
Minmatar
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:37:00 - [84]
 

Originally by: Jowen Datloran
Originally by: Nepech Al'akir
EVE is great cause its a sandbox and we can do whatever we like, but if an FPS on another gaming platform is intergrated, we can't control 50% of the game anymore...


When have you ever been able to control the planets in EVE? Right now they are mostly eye candy waiting for a proper purpose.




The possibility that one day we, the EVE players, would be able to do something with the planets, is one of the reasons why I committed long term to EVE Online ( that and WIS ).

Now this vision is shattered, if this goes wrong, I will only have Ryzom left :(

Bellum Eternus
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:38:00 - [85]
 

Consoles? That sucks. If the game were playable by both consoles and PCs that would be great. Console only? Total crap.

Jarnis McPieksu
H A V O C
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:41:00 - [86]
 

Go ahead and release this on the consoles and tie it to EVE.

But give us a damn PC version as well. Otherwise this is utter crap. And yes, I do own Xbox 360 myself and it is great for specific types of games - that is not the issue - the issue is the constant disregard of PC as a gaming platform, especially for titles that are played best on the PC.

FPS-RTS? I wouldn't want to play EITHER of those game types on a gamepad. If someone wants to, no problem - give them console version - but let me play the damn thing on a PC as well.

Ak'athra J'ador
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:42:00 - [87]
 

damn, I was hoping fac war would be the new sov mechanic :(

Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente
Shadow Templars
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:44:00 - [88]
 

Originally by: Ak'athra J'ador
wait, they can come up with a FPS but they cant make Ambulation!?!?!


This was about a new game, not EVE online! Im sure we will hear more about WiS/Ambulation during fanfest in a few months!

When it comes to this Dust game, I wish CCP all good luck. I wont be playing it myself tho since I manically loathe FPS games, strategic or not.


Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:44:00 - [89]
 

Originally by: Ak'athra J'ador
damn, I was hoping fac war would be the new sov mechanic :(
Well this sure as hell better not be the new sov mechnic.. ugh

Ivanna Nuke
Gallente
Holders Of The Cowbell
Posted - 2009.08.18 10:46:00 - [90]
 

Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Ak'athra J'ador
damn, I was hoping fac war would be the new sov mechanic :(
Well this sure as hell better not be the new sov mechnic.. ugh


Agreed if it is, I can see their precious player base going bye bye


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