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Tamahra
Gallente
Apina.
United Pod Service
Posted - 2009.08.16 10:36:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Tamahra on 16/08/2009 10:36:23


known trusted sites = blue font color
unknown sites = normal color
possible risky sites = orange color
known harmful sites = red color, font size 10.000 (exaggeration for dramatic effect)

thoughts?

Gieron
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2009.08.16 10:46:00 - [2]
 

Who would administrate this?

Je'Nann
Ultimate Inc.
Posted - 2009.08.16 10:47:00 - [3]
 

it does give a warning .. its up to you then

Jim Nakamura
Posted - 2009.08.16 10:58:00 - [4]
 

How about we just have a CCP employee go and sit with people while they browse the forums, seeing as how some people are evidently too stupid to be trusted with a computer by themself?

"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools."

The Subscriber
Posted - 2009.08.16 11:03:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Jim Nakamura
How about we just have a CCP employee go and sit with people while they browse the forums


Can I haz GM Horse?

Tamahra
Gallente
Apina.
United Pod Service
Posted - 2009.08.16 12:25:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Jim Nakamura
How about we just have a CCP employee go and sit with people while they browse the forums, seeing as how some people are evidently too stupid to be trusted with a computer by themself?

"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools."


could you at least try to be a little less ignorant......?

some of us are more cautious, others are less cautious. however, fact is, the criminal elements are not longer limiting their posts on sex or nudism but more and more seemingly legitimate on-topic links.

People who click on those links are not so much stupid, they are just not cautious enough. however the whole issue is hurting the community.

Making such stupid replies as you did does not help. Instead we should at least try to come up with something constructive to help combat the criminal elements.


Tamahra
Gallente
Apina.
United Pod Service
Posted - 2009.08.16 12:29:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Tamahra on 16/08/2009 12:29:53
Originally by: Gieron
Who would administrate this?


same goes for you as for the other poster that ive replied to. Dont be so ignorant please. They can easily make a list of the most common trusted sites. everything else wouldnt have to be administrated, since its just "unknown". on the contrary, they can also easily put up a list with riskier sites.

Ever heard about the terms "top level domain", "second level domain", "third level domain"?.....

the known harmful sites can also be easily added up to their list, CCP can add them as they ban those who are posting links to these sites.

Citrute
The High and Mighty
Posted - 2009.08.16 12:41:00 - [8]
 

The illusion of security is far more dangerous than being unsecured.

The problem will always lie in what is between the chair and the keyboard.

Nika Dekaia
Posted - 2009.08.16 12:46:00 - [9]
 

Whitelisting at least the most common sites would help very much and wouldn't involve that much work, IMHO.

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2009.08.16 12:47:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Jim Nakamura
How about we just have a CCP employee go and sit with people while they browse the forums, seeing as how some people are evidently too stupid to be trusted with a computer by themselves?
I got dibs on Prism X

Marchocias
Posted - 2009.08.16 13:05:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Tamahra

known harmful sites = red color, font size 10.000 (exaggeration for dramatic effect)



Large font size, so its really easy to accidentally click the link?

Asillia
Posted - 2009.08.16 13:17:00 - [12]
 

There is only so far that CCP can hold your hand seriously, and the poster who said "the illusion of security is worse than being unsecure" is spot on, if people are under the impression that something is safe and it gets compromised they will be that more willing to blindly leave themselves open.

The fact of the matter is that barring cutting edge exploits in a few browsers there is very little chance anyone that doesn't blindly follow random links and download files/questionable content will ever run into problems, honestly anyone over the age of 15 that can play EvE should possess the mental capacity to keep themselves safe, I would honestly love to know what goes through peoples minds when they mindlessly follow these links so carelessly with their windows 3.1 version of Internet Explorer, seriously to be in their heads for a moment would be eye opening.

1:Update your browsers(preferably use something that isn't internetexploiter)
2:apply basic level security settings
3:update and install anti virus software and ad/spyware protection
4:Don't blindly follow random links posted anywhere especially on the eve forums
5: ????????
6: PROFIT

Jim Nakamura
Posted - 2009.08.16 13:45:00 - [13]
 

It's not just a matter of white/blacklisting certain sites, it's people going to what should be an obviously fake link, clicking on it and ignoring several security warnings, while having nonexistent or badly set-up security software.

Besides, the system would be completely unworkable. If you work on a whitelist, it'd require massive degrees of manual intervention to ensure that a given site/domain is "safe" to be linked to, and in the meantime there would be so many false positives that people would ignore it pretty quickly. And if you operate a blacklist then the farmers will just set up new domains faster than they can be blacklisted.

Here's a tip; if a site points to a URL you've never seen before - especially a three-letter one that doesn't actually describe the site's alleged content in any way - do a whois on it. If it's registered in China, it's almost certainly a keylogger.

Another Forum'Alt
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2009.08.16 14:58:00 - [14]
 

How about ditching the warning? People who are stupid enough to be tricked into downloaing malware will click through it anyway, while it just annoys the rest of the players (although there is a Greasemonkey script to automatically skip it)

Laruant Wiggins
Gallente
Posted - 2009.08.16 15:33:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Laruant Wiggins on 16/08/2009 15:36:11
Originally by: Tamahra
Edited by: Tamahra on 16/08/2009 10:36:23


known trusted sites = blue font color
unknown sites = normal color
possible risky sites = orange color
known harmful sites = red color, font size 10.000 (exaggeration for dramatic effect)

thoughts?


L2I=learn 2 internet

not trying to be mean but omg
if you really want people to learn about internet safety don't fix their computers, did wonders a few years ago when i refused to fix my sisters computer AGAIN after another virus/trojan

***CCP the forum software sucks

PS I have yet to see a post or link that it wasn't obvious it would be really stupid to click on it

Agent Known
Posted - 2009.08.16 16:21:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Citrute
The illusion of security is far more dangerous than being unsecured.

The problem will always lie in what is between the chair and the keyboard.


/thread
Laughing

Concorduck
Gallente
Posted - 2009.08.16 16:34:00 - [17]
 

Ok, here's what we're going to do:

Stop caring

In 2 weeks time, Forums (and possibly the game too) will be cleaned of the highest-grade idiots, and the day will be saved, once again.


 

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