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Batten Member
Posted - 2009.08.10 04:58:00 - [1]
 

So i've ben racking my brain over naming my character and it's been almost a fruitless effort. I have almost no cannon to go off of and get conflicting views in the Q & A Forum. I've been searching for a basis for my character and can't seem to get anywhere. I'm not even sure how much the applies to eve. You see, I always try to include Norse/Scandinavian/Norwegian influences to my characters. I have been trying to place said influences among EVe and have so far gotten confused. The two main factions that seem apt for this are the Caldari and the Minmatar. The Caldari seem to have the European look, but the Minmatar have in-game Norse names for thier ships, but they're look seems to be a little scattered, If I had to place them I'd say Brutors lean towards African, the others are just out there. Can anyone give me a push in the right direction? I thought that I could get a little information out of the roleplaying side of the community than just asking on the general forums.

Lt Forge
Pilots Of Honour
Aeternus.
Posted - 2009.08.10 07:26:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Lt Forge on 10/08/2009 07:26:03
Amarr are slaver-Catholics, yet they have Bible-names for their ships.
Caldari are national socialists, yet they got bird-names for their ships.
Minmatar are African slaves, yet they got Northern names for their ships.
Gallente are French, yet they got cool ships and Greek/Roman names for their ships.

Try googling stuff 'bout them.

Victor Michaelle
Gallente
Posted - 2009.08.10 11:15:00 - [3]
 

I'm guessing there are mixed breeds all over the place.

A friend of mine drew the conclusion that the Minmatarr culture is descendant from the alternative/punk subculture we see forming mainly among young people today. I'd guess that is true in part, and since that culture is rather strong in norse regions there's bound to be some norse blood in that mix.

Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift
Posted - 2009.08.10 16:20:00 - [4]
 

CCP has confirmed that the Minmatars are the "black" race (more so the Brutors, obviously), though they intended for the look to reflect the Maori people more than Africans.

And in addition to ship names, look at the system and region names. The Norse influence is clear, though of course it's not the only factor.

small chimp
Posted - 2009.08.10 17:11:00 - [5]
 

to OP:

You should check yuor spelling grammar. There is not such word as norse and its written 'horse'.

Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
Posted - 2009.08.10 18:35:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Alexeph Stoekai on 10/08/2009 18:50:34
The Minmatar are probably the one race where norse influences would fit the best.

EDIT: I'll expand a bit, seeing as you've asked the same thing in other places and seem a bit confounded.

None of the current cultures in EVE can be directly traced to a current or historic culture on Earth. The Gallente are the ones we can trace back the furthest (we know that their ancestors settled Tau Ceti, and that they were predominantly French. That doesn't mean that the France of that age was anything like the France of today), but with all of the Empires you are really fooling yourself if you think that any of them can be directly translated into contemporary analogies.

Interestingly, the Minmatar and Gallente ship names do not seem translated like the Amarrian and Caldari are.

It's actually been stated by devs posting on this forum that the Caldari don't call the Raven "Raven", but that it's actually a word that has been "translated" for our benefit. The Raven is named after a Caldari Prime avian creature that might share certain traits with 21st century Earth ravens, at least from a cultural view.

In contrast, the Gallente and Minmatar ship names do not seem to be translated. Thus we may be able to assume that Greco-Latinate words are actually part of the Gallente vocabulary - or used in a mythological sense that is impossible to "translate". The same goes for the Minmatar. Their modern language is probably quite far removed from norse (although some of their names bear a certain semblance to ancient nordic nomenclature), but they still hold some knowledge of it. Perhaps it is their way of taking back their culture from having escaped the Amarr Empire - digging for the oldest texts they could find and studying them - using the names of those ancient texts for their new warships (the Minmatar frigates and Cruisers have English names, ergo translated. Their later creations are not).

So, what I want to say... I'm not really sure. If you want to use a norse name, it should be for a Minmatar. Something mythological would be better than something mundane though.

Pulivin Motic
Caldari
Outer Limits Trading Company
Posted - 2009.08.10 23:37:00 - [7]
 

I picked my name by the look of my character.

Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift
Posted - 2009.08.12 18:05:00 - [8]
 

While none of the four major nations translate directly to a currently-existing nation, CCP did use certain cultures as inspiration for them. In the Art of EVE book, they specifically list Japan, Germany, and Finland as inspiration for the Caldari, for example, and the US' consumerist tendency for the Gallente.

But as pointed out, we can't take that too far. We shouldn't take fact that the Catholic Church served as some inspiration for the Amarr as proof that their religious beliefs actually resemble each other, though writers and roleplayers might choose to lift certain elements where appropriate.

I definitely like taking the "space Viking" approach for some elements of the Minmatar, with a healthy dose of punk rebellion, Maori warriors, and perhaps even Bedouin nomads.

Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
Panta-Rhei
Butterfly Effect Alliance
Posted - 2009.08.13 20:18:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Deviana Sevidon on 13/08/2009 20:21:26
I always assumed that the Races of EVE have their Origin in a Mixture of Cultural and Social Groups. For the Gallente the originally french Tau Ceti Colonists were a dominant Group, but that does not mean that all Gallente are french, because their are likely other Groups as well who were already part of the mix, that would later become Gallente.

For the Minmatar the Background is even harder to determine, but remember that every Minmatar Tribe has a different Culture. So they probably came from different Colonies on the same Planet. I always (jokingly) assumed that the Minmatar are the descendants of Groups of Space Hippie and Neo-Pagans who wanted to settle as far as possible from other Human Colonies and grow peacefully their own Weed.Smile

Edit:
Add a group of Metalheads into it and give the whole mix about 20000 Years time and you might get something close to the Minmatar.

Stitcher
Caldari
Posted - 2009.08.15 06:54:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Stitcher on 15/08/2009 06:54:18
if in doubt, go with the one where actual Norse references have definitely popped up, but generally my rule is "the setting's big enough that, provided you can string together a logical reason, anything goes"

Bear in mind the Matari are a tribal culture, but tribal does not automatically mean African/Native American. If you look at the British Isles and Ireland round about the year 1000, you see a LONG list of tribes and clans, like the Ancalites, the Brigantes, the Caledones, Cornovii, Nagnatae, Ordovices and the Silures.

Point being, tribal cultures are a varied and interesting lot, and there's no reason why a brutor in aviator shades can't be flying a Loki-class ship called the "Mjolnir" if he so wants. And before somebody calls me on mixing up my Norse gods, in some of the earlier stories about him, Loki was Thor's travelling companion and comic relief.


 

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