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Nikolay Tesla
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2009.08.06 12:54:00 - [1]
 

They nearly lost everything, they have been under disbanding conditions before and yet another time, they are conquering space and kicking ass. How is this possible? Many other alliances have conquered some space, then failed and faded into history of New Eden.

What's the secret behind this evil redness?

Discuss.

DTson Gauur
Caldari
Blend.
Nulli Tertius
Posted - 2009.08.06 12:55:00 - [2]
 

Crazy Russians , 'nuff said.

Doomed Predator
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.08.06 12:57:00 - [3]
 

Vodka.

Discrodia
Gallente
Symbiosis International
Moose Alliance
Posted - 2009.08.06 12:58:00 - [4]
 

In ex-Soviet Russia...

FlameGlow
Gypsy Band
Posted - 2009.08.06 12:59:00 - [5]
 

Simple, RED's players are actually bears trained to play eve instead of balalaykas

SeismicForce
Terra Incognita
Systematic-Chaos
Posted - 2009.08.06 13:00:00 - [6]
 

Same as any alliance survives, lots of allies.

Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
Posted - 2009.08.06 13:01:00 - [7]
 

Scorched Earth is merely in their path to prove a point. Wink

Ghoest
Posted - 2009.08.06 13:01:00 - [8]
 

Its not exactly hard - they just dont give up.

Tsang Po
Gallente
Aeon Security Force
Posted - 2009.08.06 13:02:00 - [9]
 

Quite simply, it is because Red Alliance is united by their community and their ideals in a way that few other alliances are. Many corporations and alliances find their way into the EVE universe, but never find a unique identity that sets them apart from the rest of the galaxy... when all is said and done, they're just another group of pilots trying to get by in EVE. When groups like that fall upon hard times, they often disintegrate and vanish without a trace.

Red Alliance, much like Goonswarm, is united by their identity, and it will take much more than being brought to hell's gate for them to relinquish it.

I would say that Band of Brothers also fell into that realm of alliance, united by their identity. The machinations of their enemies which played out caused them to lose their grasp on that identity, even though they themselves had not changed, and the result was a catastrophic collapse of morale, which could not bear to be paired with the catastrophic loss of their territory.

Red Alliance's identity remains secure. They will plant their roots once again, and regrow. Only when their community entirely loses sight of their identity will they truly be vulnerable.

Pater Peccavi
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
Posted - 2009.08.06 13:45:00 - [10]
 

How can you kill that which has no life?

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2009.08.06 13:50:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Nikolay Tesla
What's the secret behind this evil redness?


dude, russians.

you don't **** with them. they have a perverse sense of "revenge" are are very patient people.


explosive mixture tbh.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2009.08.06 13:55:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Pater Peccavi
How can you kill that which has no life?
Cast Life 2.

Bud Johnson
Broski Enterprises
Posted - 2009.08.06 13:58:00 - [13]
 

The only thing RA '06 and RA '09 have in common is the name.

Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
Posted - 2009.08.06 14:00:00 - [14]
 

Oil barons.

Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Clinical Experiment
Posted - 2009.08.06 14:29:00 - [15]
 

Having 10 people defend 20 systems = Kind of a stretch.
Having 10 people defend 2 systems = Rather simple.

The smaller a large alliance/corporation pond gets, the bigger their respected size is towards the overall quantity of the pond.

Capt Oconell
Posted - 2009.08.06 15:04:00 - [16]
 

There is no secret to them at all, russians are sorta like jews, if you are one of them then they will help you but if you are not ...

Anyway, point is russians always help each other so even though red alliance is only as big as it is, it has a ton of invisible allies and traitors that sit in other corps and alliances and relay information and provide occasional help. And ever expect to see a russian engage another russin because that just wont happen.

Faife
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2009.08.06 15:13:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Faife on 06/08/2009 15:17:10
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Pater Peccavi
How can you kill that which has no life?
Cast Life 2.


or fenix down.

edit: or vanish + x-zone/doom, unless you're playing the gameboy advanced version

Ryhss
Caldari
The Excecutorans
Posted - 2009.08.06 16:17:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Discrodia
In ex-Soviet Russia...
...space rules YOU.

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2009.08.06 17:57:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Capt Oconell
There is no secret to them at all, russians are sorta like jews, if you are one of them then they will help you but if you are not ...

Anyway, point is russians always help each other so even though red alliance is only as big as it is, it has a ton of invisible allies and traitors that sit in other corps and alliances and relay information and provide occasional help. And ever expect to see a russian engage another russin because that just wont happen.

What an eclectic mix of prejudice and ignorance.

Capt Oconell
Posted - 2009.08.06 18:43:00 - [20]
 

Dude it just happens that I am both russian and jewish, and i am not gona be prejudicial or discriminating to my own kind. I said what I said because that the way it really is, sorry but truth does hurt. There is nothing prejudicial or discriminating about it.

Aliasca
Posted - 2009.08.06 19:19:00 - [21]
 

Russians have the same in-group us-vs-everyone mentality as do Goons. There is a certain hate for the westerners present, where the westerners are typically called "pendosi". Most Russians would not openly admit to it, but it is anchored deep down in the subconscious of many. How many times have I gone to Jita early morning only to read in local that all pendosi should suck ****. Why they should all of a sudden start sucking **** in Jita I do not quite understand because I am one of Russians who has spent considerable part of time living abroad. This hostility and patriotism is being promoted and harvested by the ex-Soviet oligarchical government of Russia as a way of population control, so it actually originates out-of-game, and the sad part of it is that they are trying to instill it on the school level (i.e. teaching it to teenagers). So it is not just the cultural similarities and the language-barrier, but they know if their empire falls who are they going to play with? The pendosi?

Besides that ... long dark winters, highly-educated population good portion of which is very very poor, ability to pay for the game with ISK rather than dollars, ability to sell some of that extra ISK for dollars, chance to escape the unpleasantness of real life and feel like you have control over something ... you see why EVE is so appealing to average Russian player.

Barakkus
Posted - 2009.08.06 19:25:00 - [22]
 

Russians stick together, and they're tenacious.

They will **** your **** up, regardless how outnumbered they are, and they will keep coming back until they finish the job.

Don't **** with Russians.

Southern Suzy
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.08.06 19:30:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: SeismicForce
Same as any alliance survives, lots of allies.


^^ he speaks from experience

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2009.08.06 19:34:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Nikolay Tesla
What's the secret behind this evil redness?

Discuss.
Google up Operation Barbarrosa and the Battle of Stalingrad then you will glean some insights into Russian tenacity.ugh

Slave 2739FKZ
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.08.06 19:39:00 - [25]
 

this thread, is full of stereotypes and crapp.

anyway as someone said RA '09 has nothing to do with RA '06, the biggest corps in old RA are now in other russian alliances (ROL, AAA, .404.).

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2009.08.06 19:40:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Razin on 06/08/2009 19:56:22
Originally by: Capt Oconell
Dude it just happens that I am both russian and jewish, and i am not gona be prejudicial or discriminating to my own kind. I said what I said because that the way it really is, sorry but truth does hurt. There is nothing prejudicial or discriminating about it.

Right. That's why XIX and RA are red to AAA and ROL.

Like I said, you're full of shit.

p.s. Looks like Aliasca is your alt. An alt of an alt. A всeм извecтнo чтo aльт xyже пидорaca.

Akkarin Pagan
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2009.08.06 19:42:00 - [27]
 

I think another thing that works in their favour is the time zone they operate in. They're able to bring a lot of force to bear when more American time zone centric outfits are still in bed. With a little bit of organization, you have a big problem.

At least that's my take on it having had my arse handed to me by those damn Reds on various occasions.

Akkarin

Capt Oconell
Posted - 2009.08.06 20:02:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Razin
Edited by: Razin on 06/08/2009 19:56:22
Originally by: Capt Oconell
Dude it just happens that I am both russian and jewish, and i am not gona be prejudicial or discriminating to my own kind. I said what I said because that the way it really is, sorry but truth does hurt. There is nothing prejudicial or discriminating about it.

Right. That's why XIX and RA are red to AAA and ROL.

Like I said, you're full of shit.

p.s. Looks like Aliasca is your alt. An alt of an alt. A всeм извecтнo чтo aльт xyже пидорaca.


No its not my alt. There is plenty of russians playing this game who think they way i do. As I said I am not discriminating, russians do stick together

p.s ето не мой альт долбоёб, прекрати пиздеть

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2009.08.06 20:08:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Capt Oconell
Originally by: Razin
Edited by: Razin on 06/08/2009 19:56:22
Right. That's why XIX and RA are red to AAA and ROL.

Like I said, you're full of shit.

p.s. Looks like Aliasca is your alt. An alt of an alt. A всeм извecтнo чтo aльт xyже пидорaca.


No its not my alt. There is plenty of russians playing this game who think they way i do. As I said I am not discriminating, russians do stick together

p.s ето не мой альт долбоёб, прекрати пиздеть

Well, at least it's settled that you're full of shit. Pretty much explains everything else you posted.

p.s. "это" пишется через "э"

Cat o'Ninetails
Caldari
Rancer Defence League
Posted - 2009.08.06 20:14:00 - [30]
 

buy shares in aluminium lol

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