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Joe
Umbra Legion
Shadow Empire.
Posted - 2009.07.31 04:54:00 - [1]
 

Is it a Lag issue?
Is it a time issue?
Is it a staffing issue?

Many Alliances enjoy a Custom logo, you may have seen them when checking a Corp's Info page, All the alliances that is, that were able to submit them before 2009.

Since that time we've had a new 'Submission tool' that GM's acknowledge hasn't worked in 6 months. The Application page is still there tho, and hasnt been removed, and according to your Submission Number, the applicants are now in the hundreds.

My Question for the Eve Community is this: "Are Custom Alliance Logos Necessary, and should there be an effort by ccp to re-instate the old system that worked fine'.

Personally (Biased as an alliance Leader) i would like to see the efforts of organised corps to be rewarded, and members able to fly proud under a banner that is unique to their organisation, instead of a generic 5 piont star that we are now all stuck with.


Agent Known
Posted - 2009.07.31 04:55:00 - [2]
 

My CEO submitted a logo over 2 months ago...no response...nothing. Evil or Very Mad

Joe
Umbra Legion
Shadow Empire.
Posted - 2009.07.31 04:57:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Joe on 31/07/2009 05:00:41
Editted for stuf

Originally by: Agent Known
My CEO submitted a logo over 2 months ago...no response...nothing. Evil or Very Mad


Thats becuase the Submission tool has been 'Broken' for the last 6 months according to Gm's. Disabled is another good word for it Wink

Incase you were wondering how the new submission process was meant to work when it was released, the .psd file is uploaded, a Staff member Specifcly hired to screen them was to check them, and then the Logo was to be sent to the Art department (in the US?) to be polished.
Once finished by the art department, It was to be seeded in the next following Patch.




Hieronimus Rex
Minmatar
Infinitus Sapientia
Hav0k.
Posted - 2009.07.31 05:14:00 - [4]
 

They should bring them back for a fee or add a higher ISK fee to get a custom logo (maybe 50bil)? They add flavor to the game but now alliances are a dime a dozen, so CCP runs into a time/staffing issue. I can't imagine it's lag since I believe logos and such are stored clientside and the server just needs to tell you "load this picture."

Kaakao
Insidious Existence
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2009.07.31 05:20:00 - [5]
 

Submit tool is broken and new mechanic for easier submission is probably not the top priority on the long list of things to fix. It's released when it's done™

Joe
Umbra Legion
Shadow Empire.
Posted - 2009.07.31 06:03:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Hieronimus Rex
They should bring them back for a fee or add a higher ISK fee to get a custom logo (maybe 50bil)? They add flavor to the game but now alliances are a dime a dozen, so CCP runs into a time/staffing issue.


There were a number of requirments Alliances needed to meet, including size, and activity for 6months+

Originally by: Hieronimus Rex
I can't imagine it's lag since I believe logos and such are stored clientside and the server just needs to tell you "load this picture."


If Lag is the issue, than i totally agree with the scrapping of custom logos, Game playability and performance should allways take priority over aesthetics.
If this is the Issue tho, why are the pre-2009 Custom Alliance Logos still active?

Originally by: Kaakao
Submit tool is broken and new mechanic for easier submission is probably not the top priority on the long list of things to fix. It's released when it's done™


The Forum submit tool was the new mechanic for easier submission.

BTW The correct insulting ccp meme is 'Soon™', not 'It's released when it's done™' Wink I think they scrapped that term back in 2006 after people finally got tired of seeing it posted in the forums by Devs.

I'd like to know what happened to the CCP employee that was hired to prescreen logos, has he still been on the payroll for the last 6 months, and if so, what does he do?

Vaneshi SnowCrash
Posted - 2009.08.01 01:24:00 - [7]
 

A. It's broken.
B. This is the way CCP want it and only old Alliances get their goodies.
C. Who knows?
D. Who, really, cares?
E. All of the above.

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2009.08.01 01:34:00 - [8]
 

After figuring out that 98% of the submission were a sly graphical trick at putting a dong on the side of every allinace ship they just gave up. Wink

Sader Rykane
Amarr
The Dark Space Initiative
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
Posted - 2009.08.01 02:02:00 - [9]
 

Sucks for me, I actually make isk creating alliance logos. If they don't get fixed, there will be no reason to buy any.

CCP Fallout

Posted - 2009.08.02 11:48:00 - [10]
 

It's not been abandoned. Once CCP Applebabe returns from her much needed, much earned holiday, we'll be reopening the process, which has been changed and streamlined. More information to come :)

LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
Posted - 2009.08.02 11:50:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout
It's not been abandoned. Once CCP Applebabe returns from her much needed, much earned holiday, we'll be reopening the process, which has been changed and streamlined. More information to come :)

How many times has it been streamlined now, dear Fallout? Embarassed

iP0D
Posted - 2009.08.02 11:58:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: iP0D on 02/08/2009 11:58:05
Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: CCP Fallout
It's not been abandoned. Once CCP Applebabe returns from her much needed, much earned holiday, we'll be reopening the process, which has been changed and streamlined. More information to come :)

How many times has it been streamlined now, dear Fallout? Embarassed


Hush kiddo, let the grownups have their holiday Very Happy

LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
Posted - 2009.08.02 12:02:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: iP0D

Hush kiddo, let the grownups have their holiday Very Happy


I'm just curious, because I had a bit of a Deja Vu. It seems like the alliance logo program gets overhauled every year Shocked

Nareg Maxence
Gallente
Posted - 2009.08.02 12:20:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: iP0D

Hush kiddo, let the grownups have their holiday Very Happy


I'm just curious, because I had a bit of a Deja Vu. It seems like the alliance logo program gets overhauled every year Shocked

Obviously every time they get a new person to manage it, they have to implement their own system. Makes sence to me.

Fletcher Vorhees
Posted - 2009.08.02 14:22:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout
It's not been abandoned. Once CCP Applebabe returns from her much needed, much earned holiday, we'll be reopening the process, which has been changed and streamlined. More information to come :)
lies! women dont play eve!

Rexthor Hammerfists
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2009.08.02 14:29:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Nareg Maxence
Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: iP0D

Hush kiddo, let the grownups have their holiday Very Happy


I'm just curious, because I had a bit of a Deja Vu. It seems like the alliance logo program gets overhauled every year Shocked

Obviously every time they get a new person to manage it, they have to implement their own system. Makes sence to me.


because they have no idea how the person before ran it, like the billboards :)

Roemy Schneider
Vanishing Point.
Posted - 2009.08.02 15:08:00 - [17]
 

like with everything else then that never gets fixed...?

Ivas
Posted - 2009.08.02 15:32:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout
It's not been abandoned. Once CCP Applebabe returns from her much needed, much earned holiday, we'll be reopening the process, which has been changed and streamlined. More information to come :)

Curiously the sales of astroglide just spiked.

DigitalCommunist
November Corporation
Posted - 2009.08.02 15:40:00 - [19]
 

Being able to put logos on your ships would be marginally amusing for about a week. Then it would probably get disabled in the options menu, because the lot of you have ugly, moronic, and creepy logos not worth looking at.

Considering the development effort and performance consequences, you'd think they would do something about the corp logo creator first.

I mean, you can get lots of combinations out of it and players have been creative, but compared to even today's character creator its hilariously bad. Since beta, the only thing they did was add a dozen more pictures. Now you can submit custom logos - which is one reason why people simply pay the 1bil isk alliance fee, and soon you'll be able to customize the hell out of a 3D walking avatar.

Corp logos.. will still be crap.

Trustworthy Joe
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.08.02 16:44:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Fletcher Vorhees
Originally by: CCP Fallout
It's not been abandoned. Once CCP Applebabe returns from her much needed, much earned holiday, we'll be reopening the process, which has been changed and streamlined. More information to come :)
lies! women dont play eve!


you realize fallouts a girl?

Taedrin
Gallente
Kushan Industrial
Posted - 2009.08.02 16:47:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Taedrin on 02/08/2009 16:46:52
Originally by: Trustworthy Joe
Originally by: Fletcher Vorhees
Originally by: CCP Fallout
It's not been abandoned. Once CCP Applebabe returns from her much needed, much earned holiday, we'll be reopening the process, which has been changed and streamlined. More information to come :)
lies! women dont play eve!


you realize fallouts a girl?


The Internet:
Where all the men are men, all the women are men, and all the 12 year old children are undercover FBI agents.

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2009.08.02 18:41:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Taedrin
Edited by: Taedrin on 02/08/2009 16:46:52
Originally by: Trustworthy Joe
Originally by: Fletcher Vorhees
Originally by: CCP Fallout
It's not been abandoned. Once CCP Applebabe returns from her much needed, much earned holiday, we'll be reopening the process, which has been changed and streamlined. More information to come :)
lies! women dont play eve!


you realize fallouts a girl?


The Internet:
Where all the men are kids, all the women are men, and all the 12 year old children are undercover FBI agents.
Fixed Cool

McFly
Peanut Factory
Posted - 2009.08.12 08:52:00 - [23]
 

Any word on the people that played by the rules of the last logo system? I mean.... those of us in limbo aren't just going to be dropped when the new system comes out are we
Or will it just end up being, BAM! and months of wondering if this patch or that patch will have the logo in it... or if anyone is even paying attention anymore.

Please have applebabe drop a devblog when she gets back.

Lothris Andastar
Posted - 2009.08.12 12:08:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Lothris Andastar on 12/08/2009 12:08:23
I love how only Big Alliances get Custom Logos now while people Like Chribba get Preferential Treatment because they did it before someone else.

Sade Onyx
Posted - 2009.08.12 12:15:00 - [25]
 

what about alliance logo's on ships?

Has that been abandoned?

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2009.08.12 12:28:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Sade Onyx
what about alliance logo's on ships?

Has that been abandoned?


yes, because due to the size of the logos nobody could really see them as it was explained in the past on why not.

this eventually got sorted into low impact high effort group of features and ideas, and generally gets shelved for a long time.

Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Posted - 2009.08.12 12:57:00 - [27]
 

Hah like CCP lets user create their own content.

Tiny Tove
Posted - 2009.08.12 14:10:00 - [28]
 

Dark Taboo members should be FORCED to wear that ****ty logo on their ships.

ElCoCo
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
Posted - 2009.08.12 14:55:00 - [29]
 

Streamline?
We're talking about "just" adding a smallish picture to the gamefiles here (after deeming it appropriate/good enough to be added ofc).Rolling Eyes

Not that I realy care, but heh Razz

Tyran Relic
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2009.08.27 14:52:00 - [30]
 

Any update on this ? or still on holiday


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